Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[LetterO]

And in my opinion Incineroar is bad. Like, He's really slow and predictable, and very easy to punish.

why do you gotta do this to me

 

[Deleted member]

That last part is complete bull because that Spirit was first seen being bought in the Ingame Shop

You can get them from both ways.

 

[Seine]

Ok I understand daisy is a fighter spirit but she is still a spirit which means she isn’t a deconfirm

 

[KiBom]

Chrom may be lower than Roy due to his Little Mac recovery (but he does have good airspeed so we will have to see)

Ridley looks kinda good. Maybe not tournament viable good, but still good. Didn't test him enough.
And in my opinion Incineroar is bad. Like, He's really slow and predictable, and very easy to punish.

Yeah but his uncharged f-smash kills at like 40.

 

[Seine]

Ok I understand daisy is a fighter spirit but she is still a spirit which means she isn’t a deconfirm

So spirits aren’t a deconfirm

 

[ClaTheBae]

Yeah. Ridley is definitely a low tier character if I ever saw one.

Hopefully this will encourage people to practice with him instead of giving up the second they realize how hard it is to recover.

Just because a player can do cool stuff with the character doesn't make the character good.

 

[Seine]

fighter spirit. thats a fighter spirt.

K I got it

 

[LetterO]

That last part is complete bull because that Spirit was first seen being bought in the Ingame Shop

Even if you can get them from the shop you still also get them from completing Classic Mode. I saw someone get a Ness Fighter Spirit from completing his classic mode.

 

[Deleted member]

Yeah. Ridley is definitely a low tier character if I ever saw one.

Hopefully this will encourage people to practice with him instead of giving up the second they realize how hard it is to recover.

Oh nooooo!

*War flashbacks of Mario’s cape*

 

[Shadowwolflink]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/BXQ73nG
Proof I was right spirits aren’t deconfirms

The link is dead, but based on the replies to this comment I'm going to assume it was a picture of the Daisy fighter spirit. A better example would be the Let's Go Pikachu spirit that you get for having a save of that game on your Switch.

 

[Zeox]

That last part is complete bull because that Spirit was first seen being bought in the Ingame Shop

https://nintendosoup.com/list-of-all-spirits-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate/
Look at the list and search for the spirit "Daisy", there is only one spirit that is called like that, and is this one, meaning this is the fighter spirit from Daisy and so you cannot equip it.

 

[Deleted member]

Why does Sakurai keep making the Metroid characters low tier!?

Just nerf Mario’s cape already!!!

 

[GoeGoe]

Crash’s chances get higher every day we pass.

With that vague "a must have DLC for fans" Nintendo tossed like it was nothing. All think they're choice is the ultimate sure shot (including yours truely).
Man, I so don't appreciate the way they word it.

 

[Seine]

Skull kid deconfirmed as assist trophy, he ain’t in smashin Bois
https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/item/assistfigure.html

 

[SnakeFighter64]

https://nintendosoup.com/list-of-all-spirits-in-super-smash-bros-ultimate/
Look at the list and search for the spirit "Daisy", there is only one spirit that is called like that, and is this one, meaning this is the fighter spirit from Daisy and so you cannot equip it.

Then why wasn't it her smash render? That was some generic stock art of Daisy like the rest of the non-fighter spirits.

 

[Luigi The President]

Just got home catch me up gang

 

[Deleted member]

Just got home catch me up gang

Mario’s cape is still trying to ruin my dignity and hasn’t been nerfed.

 

[Zeox]

Then why wasn't it her smash render? That was some generic stock art of Daisy like the rest of the non-fighter spirits.

Don't ask me! I don't know! I don't secretly work on Smash Ultimate and I know all the DLC characters but I'm hidding that info from all of you!

 

[Luigi The President]

Skull kid deconfirmed as assist trophy, he ain’t in smashin Bois
https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/item/assistfigure.html

Literal MONTH late

 

[Freaky Mutant Man]

Then why wasn't it her smash render? That was some generic stock art of Daisy like the rest of the non-fighter spirits.

From what I've seen, the only fighter spirit to use their Smash render is Cloud. Everyone else uses older renders.

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Anyone else hoping to get into competitive with Ultimate.

Pretty ready to get bodied for 6 months.

Well I've been thinking of setting up a little competition going on here with championships being included to defend and tournaments. I was thinking something like this


SSB World Championship
SSB International Championship
SSB Cruiserweight Championship (using lightweight fighters only)
SSB Tag Team Championship
SSB Women's Championship


Having five divisions doesn't seem so bad with a possibility of maybe including a Women's Tag. But that is only if I get enough people interested

 

[Seine]

Literal MONTH late

Oof ouch my bones I feel old

 

[CrusherMania1592]

Why does Sakurai keep making the Metroid characters low tier!?

Just nerf Mario’s cape already!!!

Uh...Samus was pretty high in 64/Melee?

 

[Cosmic77]

I think we need more people correcting that user on the Daisy Spirit.

Seriously, the point has been made.

Just because a player can do cool stuff with the character doesn't make the character good.

No, but if they can find a way to do it consistently and take stocks early, that's something other Ridley players should take note of.

 

[Deleted member]

Nerf this!!

 

[Deleted member]

From what I've seen, the only fighter spirit to use their Smash render is Cloud. Everyone else uses older renders.

Worth noting that this means that if Geno got in his fighter spirit could simply use his own render, considering there’s only one official piece of art of him in existence.

 

[Raxxel]

From what I've seen, the only fighter spirit to use their Smash render is Cloud. Everyone else uses older renders.

Oh my god, of COURSE the only character that isn't allowed their original render is Cloud. Square can't help but be stingy even on that.

 

[Luigi The President]

Worth noting that this means that if Geno got in his fighter spirit could simply use his own render, considering there’s only one official piece of art of him in existence.

This is true and a point that keeps me up at night.

There is literally one official render of Geno.
That's it.

His Fighter Spirit would have no choice but to use his hypothetical new render.

 

[FreeFox]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/BXQ73nG
Proof I was right spirits aren’t deconfirms

Look, I dont like the "spirits deconfirm characters" theory either but can I request you to read what the theory entails before trying to fight against it?

Characters having fighting spirits and characters having more than one spirit have already been taken into account by the theory.

 

[Luigi The President]

https://m.imgur.com/gallery/BXQ73nG
Proof I was right spirits aren’t deconfirms

Bad first impression

The Daisy Spirit is meaningless, that's a FIGHTER Spirit

 

[Cosmic77]

Cloud's Spirit using his Smash render is somehow both the saddest and most hilarious thing about Smash Ultimate.

That level of uncooperation is laughable. I'm genuinely suprised a second SE rep is even on the table.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Yeah but his uncharged f-smash kills at like 40.

who? this could apply to any of them really

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Dead meme time

Tell that to the upcoming second Super Crown Bowsette fan convention, steam of art still coming, fan games, fan mods, and the next wind it'll get when U Deluxe releases.

 

[LetterO]

Tell that to the upcoming second Super Crown Bowsette fan convention, steam of art still coming, fan games, fan mods, and the next wind it'll get when U Deluxe releases.

Thanks for reminding me that Bowsette might return. I really needed that.

i didnt need that
nobody needs that

 

[ClaTheBae]

why do you gotta do this to me

look someone may be able to be good with him but to me, he has all the makings of a bad character.
Usually slow characters are pretty outmatched in smash. Just look at melee or sm4sh tier lists

 

[Deleted member]

Tell that to the upcoming second Super Crown Bowsette fan convention, steam of art still coming, fan games, fan mods, and the next wind it'll get when U Deluxe releases.

@upcoming second Super Crown Bowsette fan convention, steam of art still coming, fan games, fan mods, and the next wind it'll get when U Deluxe releases.
Dead meme time

 

[Luigi The President]

Cloud's Spirit using his Smash render is somehow both the saddest and most hilarious thing about Smash Ultimate.

That level of uncooperation is laughable. I'm genuinely suprised a second SE rep is even on the table.

I hate to bring him up. But...

...this makes Geno a bit more likely in my mind.

With how uncooperative they're being, it's just...Geno is unarguably the easiest to obtain from Squenix.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Thanks for reminding me that Bowsette might return. I really needed that.

i didnt need that
nobody needs that

Honestly, she never left. Just decrescnedo'd things for the time being.

 

[SlickWylde]

Mario’s cape is still trying to ruin my dignity and hasn’t been nerfed.

You sound like my friends who try to kill a Mario with a charge shot without any kind of combo leading up to it haha

 

[FreeFox]

This is true and a point that keeps me up at night.

There is literally one official render of Geno.
That's it.

His Fighter Spirit would have no choice but to use his hypothetical new render.

Hey, there is something that I would love to ask you. Do you think that if Geno joins, Mallow could come with him? Either as an assist for one of his moves, final smash or just for victory poses. Would you consider it feasible?