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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.

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Bionichute

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like i heard complaints about 13 and 13-2 and how somehow 13-2 is worse (i dunno how that is when it has gilgamesh and ultros in it) but like

lightning returns is a box i saw sitting on a game store shelf and nothing else. honestly i don't really want to know anything about it at this point
 
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NonSpecificGuy said:
You're right, Snake did have good representation on Nintendo, he did. But that was pre Brawl.You said the games that Dante and Leon were starring in weren't CURRENTLY coming to Nintendo systems. When Snake was added Metal Gear Solid 4 was no where close to coming to the Wii and MGS3D was 4 years away.
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That doesn't negate my point though.

You're forgetting something. I mentioned that Snake currently had a game at the time playable on the Wii, in the form of Twin Snakes.

Also, the comparison with Snake doesn't work, also because it wasn't done with business strictly in mind. Mind you, it sparked off as Hideo Kojima asking for Sakurai to put him in, and one thing led to another. Supposed competition wouldn't have been in mind as sharp as it is nowadays. Times change things of course. Nintendo themselves have gone on to say how strategic they are with their DLC integrations as of now.
NonSpecificGuy said:
When, Cloud was announced for Smash we had no reason to believe FFVII Remake was that far away. There was gameplay in 2015. Saying that Cloud is meant to represent the entirety of FF is fine. Absolutely. But you can't just ignore the fact that his next BIG game was coming out and Nintendo wasn't getting it.
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The difference with Cloud is that he got in because of notable fan demand from the get go, garnered from the ballot as Nintendo themselves stated. He was the most requested for Final Fantasy character on the voting ballot. And Sakurai was still more so calling the shots.

Also, let's be honest. We had no release date given and there's nothing to suggest that behind the scenes, the companies knew it wasn't coming anytime soon. Whereas with DMC5 and RE2R, we know their release dates, so we know when and if they'll clash.

And with Nintendo calling the shots, again, it comes down to trying to maximize profit. Sure, maybe you could argue that Leon's just that good..... but then we come to situation where they go with more, the face of the series who isn't as popular, and with Sakurai saying that echoes would not be dlc, well then, there's a problem.

Also, demand for Leon in Smash isn't really seen as much, given his more realistic weaponry and other qualities that might not have him being the most exciting newcomer, but I digress. Support who you want to support.


NonSpecificGuy said:
You also failed to prove my point wrong by mentioning that Cloud was in that 3DS FF game that was announced in the same December Direct that announced his inclusion in Smash.
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Your point being?
NonSpecificGuy said:
t was meant as a joke and I thought I made that fairly obvious but here ya go.
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Huh. Keen to know. Still, no where near the level of clearance that he has with the Ace Attorney series, being the creator. Nice find nonetheless.
 
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Lightning is cute and 13 isn't like...terrible. Lightning ain't a great character though. I'd take her over Vaan and maybe not much else.
 
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Flyboy said:
Lightning is cute and 13 isn't like...terrible. Lightning ain't a great character though. I'd take her over Vaan and maybe not much else.
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I mean.
Taking Vaan who's barely the protagonist of his game as a level is kinda easy.

Uh...

Barely the protagonist of his game...

Uh...

Guess the avatar check out.

:4pacman:
 
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hope is a construct and has never existed

unless poochy gets in in which hope is real and powerful
 
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I wipe my ass with games like Final Fantasy 13.

What? Is that too rude?
 
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Nekoo said:
I mean.
Taking Vaan who's barely the protagonist of his game as a level is kinda easy.

Uh...

Barely the protagonist of his game...

Uh...

Guess the avatar check out.

:4pacman:
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Yeah like an FF12 rep would be okay if it was Ashe or Basch but man, that game let me down hard. 13 was fine. Not great, but fine. Had positives.

don't make me go on a rant about how kaede's the most important character in the game nekoo I will end you
 
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Fatmanonice said:
Geno's original artwork does look like a baby doll... That's why I'm so glad so many artists have jumped on improving that. The offical art of SMRPG had aged terribly (Bowser's face is literally made of balls...)
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It was a unique take when it came out in 1996. But like most early 3D it didn't age well.

Michael the Spikester said:
Imagine if Lightning turns out to be the SE rep.
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It would probably be a bit of controversial choice since she's kind of a mixed bag but not the direction I think most people would go

Nekoo said:
I mean.
Taking Vaan who's barely the protagonist of his game as a level is kinda easy.

Uh...

Barely the protagonist of his game...

Uh...

Guess the avatar check out.

:4pacman:
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Vaan is kind of a weird situation as he was added to the game later into development so they didn't really have the time to write him properly into the plot, which is why he's so disjointed from the rest of the plot. Vaan does have more character in his other appearances as a result then he does in the main game he was featured in.
 
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Flyboy said:
Yeah like an FF12 rep would be okay if it was Ashe or Basch but man, that game let me down hard. 13 was fine. Not great, but fine. Had positives.

don't make me go on a rant about how kaede's the most important character in the game nekoo I will end you
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Do it.
I'm waiting. My PM are open for it and always open for DR talk-
 
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Dee Dude said:
Uh guys....
https://twitter.com/yoiko_minecraft/status/1069441148333174784?s=21

In you’re confused, the official Japanese Smash Twitter retweeted it.
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Context: These two are a duo called "Yoiko" and they both are VERY known in Japanese entertainment. Masaru Hamaguchi, for TV appearances and such, and Shinya Arino, known for Game Center CX.

They both formed as a duo not too long ago for their Minecraft LP series, and then they've just expanded from there. This really doesn't mean anything at all, just promotion for their upcoming episode of Smash Ultimate.
 
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tehponycorn said:
If the DQ character is the one who was rejected and Sora and Geno both get in that's the best timeline. Like:
  • Sora
  • Geno
  • Lloyd
  • Steve
  • Doom Slayer/Whoever
That's A+++ **** right there (sorry Leggings Mythra).
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Other than maybe Doom Slayer if he looks awesome to play as, I couldn't give two ****s about this timeline.
 
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DraginHikari said:
It was a unique take when it came out in 1996.



It would probably be a bit of controversial choice since she's kind of a mixed bag but not the direction I think most people would go



Vaan is kind of a weird situation as he was added to the game later into development so they didn't really have the time to write him properly into the plot, which is why he's so disjointed from the rest of the plot. Vaan does have more character in his other appearances as a result then he does in the main game he was featured in.
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Why didn't they just make Ashe the playable character then c'mon Squeenix c'mon
 
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TotsBS said:
About Edelgard, I would like to support her, but Three Houses hasn't had any showing since E3 this year, and that was our first exposure to it. Even if the January Direct comes and we see gameplay, I feel it'd be too late.

We at least knew about Fire Emblem Fates to a certain degree and it came out a few odd months or so before the reveal in the Final Smash Presentation, in Corrin's case, but considering how many Nintendo titles have been getting the worldwide release treatment, who knows when Japan will get Three Houses.

Also, DLC has all been chosen probably earlier than Sakurai's official statement, so it really ain't looking too good for any Three House rep/Edelgard, IMO.
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People boogeyman Edelgard/Three Houses rep way too hard because
  • As you said the game is wayyyy too late for DLC.
  • Nintendo doesn't care about the marketing anyway.
  • The shill picks that set the precedence for shill picks (Roy and Corrin) were ultimately chosen by Sakurai and his team, Nintendo had little to do with them.
Idk, it's just strange that Switch characters that have already been proven to be successful and popular like Springman and Rex got passed over for something not out yet and guaranteed to be controversial. DLC will still have an aspect of promotion but it will likely be with third-parties and preexisting characters that have roles in new games, not completely new characters.
 
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By the way, Arino-kacho is a ****ing meme gold mine. Here's one on me, if we don't get Smash Ultimate or something exciting from Nintendo @ The Game Awards.

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so anyone else gonna note that yarn poochy's spirit is specificcally titled Poochy (Woolly World) despite there not being any other character named poochy in the spirits list

#TeamPoochy
 
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TotsBS said:
Context: These two are a duo called "Yoiko" and they both are VERY known in Japanese entertainment. Masaru Hamaguchi, for TV appearances and such, and Shinya Arino, known for Game Center CX.

They both formed as a duo not too long ago for their Minecraft LP series, and then they've just expanded from there. This really doesn't mean anything at all, just promotion for their upcoming episode of Smash Ultimate.
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These days companies tweeting things are so common place I'm not sure why it's given more attention then it is... oh wait this the Smash Speculation Community. That would be why lol.

Flyboy said:
Why didn't they just make Ashe the playable character then c'mon Squeenix c'mon
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It came down to what the development team thought would best appeal to the demographic at the time. Vaan was basically set up to fill the role of 'Young, energetic, inexperienced JRPG male lead".
 
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Robertman2 said:
dangranopa?

more like sans x komeda is canon
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Is it happening?

Is this thread finally going to give me an excuse to post the incredibly crappy Danganronpa Smash Bros MS Paint edit I made 4 months ago?

God I hope so.

I have way too many Smash MS Paint edits just sittingin my folder that are way too situational to actually use.

Life is paint.
 
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