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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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beans

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What you're describing somewhat reminds me of Heihachi's exclusion from Smash 4. Sakurai was briefly considering Heihachi as a character, but didn't put him in because his playstyle didn't fit well into Smash. And in the end, he didn't make it.

That's the most notable example I can think of.
I believe it would be similar but different to Heihachi.
While it comes down to gameplay, Ultimate's DLC is confirmed to involve Nintendo in the picks.
Can Sakurai still say "I cant work on this character" due to gameplay reasons when Nintendo asks him to make something?
It ends back into how much Sakurai's personnal vision matters to Nintendo's business.
 

RandomAce

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Anyone mind showing me this whole "Name starts with L" where its coming from?

Also this "Shill Character"?
The character speculaed that starts with L is Lloyd. The "shill character" that's also been speculated is apparently Yuri.

It seems that Lloyd and Yuri are fighting for the same spot.
 

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He technically said than none of the 5 announced DLC characters were echoes.

Meaning that they technically could release more echoes down the line (although I'm somewhat doubtful of that).
I'm rather doubtful we'll even get more characters after this. 82 seems like a pretty good rounded number.
 

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Heihachi's not likely at the moment anyway. His JP VA died this year and VA Roles are serious business in Japan. It's likely the reason Snake's Codecs weren't updated since Colonel Campbell's JP VA Died.
 

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I believe it would be similar but different to Heihachi.
While it comes down to gameplay, Ultimate's DLC is confirmed to involve Nintendo in the picks.
Can Sakurai still say "I cant work on this character" due to gameplay reasons when Nintendo asks him to make something?
It ends back into how much Sakurai's personnal vision matters to Nintendo's business.
Based on the context of the tweet, yes.
Sakurai could reject a character for gameplay reasons even if Nintendo suggests that character.
But, according to my observation, that's the extent of his input on who gets in as DLC.
If Nintendo wants a character and Sakurai can make that character work, that character is in.
 

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Ok, I've been away since Friday-ish with little internet access.

Has anything interesting happened? Verg/hitagi posting or something like that?
 

KingBroly

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All these combo videos I seen of Smash Ultimate scares the hell out of me.

Nonetheless, I am pretty excited to see where the competitive scene will go from here.
It'll be like Brawl, except for everyone being Meta Knight.
 
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You know what I don't get. The fact that they said that no characters past 2014 are being CONSIDERED. Like, i thought they told us the characters were already locked down. How is there any debate still. It almost feels like Fantonice and Polar Panda are just messing with us.
Who's they? And do you have a source for this info?
 

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You know what I don't get. The fact that they said that no characters past 2014 are being CONSIDERED. Like, i thought they told us the characters were already locked down. How is there any debate still. It almost feels like Fantonice and Polar Panda are just messing with us.
May have just been in regards to the "L" and "Y" characters.

However, Panda said it's not a definitive leak, it's just a rumor.

I don't believe they're messing with us; Panda has a legitimate source who has told him Smash-related info that became true, and he's verified said source with Fatmanonice and numerous other users (not me; I never asked).
 
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Well, in Metroid Prime 3 but more specifically Federation Force, Sylux is alive
I'm not saying Nintendo can't ret-con it. But you never see Sylux; I looked up the FF cutscene:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-goCv7zyBWU
It could be anyone. You don't see him in the MP3 scene either, only a ship. I've showed him dying. Give me one reason to believe he's the same character.
 

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I follow the game too don't worry my man. I'm a big SE nerd here. But the point wasn't that it won't make money! The point was that you can apply the same for Smash Bros-

If money is the leading factor, it would be stupid to not go for Sora or Sephiroth on that list of 7 for Exemple :bobomb:
Great; now tell me what you know on DLC o.o
...JK
 

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I'm still pissed Yuri Lowell isn't voiced by Yuri Lowenthal.

Like... what?
I believe Yuri Lowenthal did in fact audition to voice Yuri Lowell, but I think he was passed over because he already voiced a previous Tales of protagonist.
 

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*folds hands quietly*

I did say that the Boomer pick and the shill pick were competing, didn't I?
That info isn't verified at all fyi. Far to early to be teasing stuff like that to the people, as it'll likely end up blowing up in your face
 

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Based on everything competitive we've learned so far and with my own interests in mind, this is probably my day-1 characters selection.

Richter and Shulk as primaries, 3 potential secondaries in the middle, and all the "Interested in them but have to play them first" at the bottom.
 
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