Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[TeenGirlSquad]

>Phendrana Drifts in HD

That's too sexy for the VGAs.

 

[FreeFox]

Who are you guys going to be maining when we start out with the original 8? I'm going to be shortly maining DK.



I have good memories with the THQ Xbox 360 WWE games. I remember creating video game and anime characters in CAW mode and then uploading them to the community.

Pikachu, totally. Hopefully, I will get a pokemon soon enough on the WoL

I think some of you guys are a little too harsh on people that don’t like the way Ultimate seems to be going with unlocks. I used to be pro unlocking characters. I liked the idea that for some of the roster, you have to work a bit more like complete a certain challenge, or play a certain character, and have the unlockable be in the spotlight a bit.

But that’s for some of the roster. The problem here is that unlike previous games where they give an extended cast of characters to work with. Ultimate limits you with just 8. It’s a nice verture, but at least with prior games you could at least start off the game and go in a match with a greater chance that any characters you may be interested in are already available. Here, if you don’t like any of the original 8, you’re going to be out of luck for a while.

And this is where it starts to become more of a grind, since now you have the siren go on for 60+ fighters... and it’s all randomized. If there was another thing I liked about unlocking characters, it was the criteria to unlock them. I think Smash 4 did it best since since I liked how some of the unlocks had you needing to play as Link to get Ganondorf, Marth to get Lucina, etc. It at least gave me some idea of how I’m going to unlock someone and expect it, and in the end, it was pretty neat. But with Ultimate, you need Link to get King K. Rool? And it goes even more wacko from there.

The way Ultimate is taking unlocks looks tedious more than anything since the order of unlocking characters seems random and it ends up being more of crossing your fingers and hope for the best sort of situation. I would’ve enjoyed it if we had at least 30 characters, and the requirements for some of the unlocks are reasonable like “using X character to unlock character related to X”. But the roster looks weird with just 8 peeps and no clue on when the others show up.

I understand where you are getting at. Still, I need to bring up one thing. Unlocking in smash has always been a slog. Smash 64 has arbitrary unlocking mechanics that requires knowledge to unlock. Melee has Mewtwo´s controversial unlock method and some really awful thropies. Brawl has the tedious method for gaining trophies with an arbitrary ítem fulfilling certain conditions. Smash for has all the equipment and custom moves. If anything I would say 11 hours isnt that much to get 66 characters.

As for arbitrary, many unlocks in smash dont make sense. Why do we have to get kills to get Duck Hunt? Why do we have to get past a certain amount of time to unlock Mewtwo?

Anyway, what I am trying to get at is that I dont get the surprise. Smash has always been like this. There is nothing new. Sakurai likes giving smash things that make the extend the lifetime of a game. I am actually surprised that Sakurai decided to give us all stages to play without having to unlock them too. Unlocking characters has always been a staple of the games and many casual audiences enjoy getting to discover everything. Anyway, that is my take on the subject.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Anyone know what time the VGA are supposed to start on Thursday?

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

Anyone know what time the VGA are supposed to start on Thursday?

8:30 pm me thinks

 

[Cyn]

Oh man, the CPUs look so good this game. If ya'll haven't seen this Snake/Sheik vid (and the crazy Snake C4 recovery)

My girl looks so much more fun to play this time around.

 

[Deleted member]

For the people who wanted a link/source, here's when Metroid Prime Trilogy leaked by NateDrake's slip-up.

 

[vaanrose]

Interesting.

Reading this thread, it seems like Lylat (or any stage) isn't really the problem with characters falling through. It really looks like it's something with the game's engine instead.

This is a real rookie mistake for collision boxes. Fortunately it's the kind of thing that's quite easily patchable.

 

[CallMeKnux]

I very much think the VGA's will announce MP4 and possibly the trilogy rerelease, while the Smash announcement will be saved for a direct that goes with the launch of Pirhana Plant in January or Febuary, similar to the Roy/Ryu direct. Than the next character trailer shows up in E3, than finally the last 3 being spread out through later directs. That, or there will be one announcement in a random direct, like Cloud, and an announcement for a full-on Smash direct with the last 2 characters of the fighter pass, and an announcement of a second if there is one.

If I'm wrong tho and the VGA's will have a Smash reveal I definitely think the SE rep (who I think is Chrono tbh) is in the cards. Sylux isn't far fetched either.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

For the people who wanted a link/source, here's when Metroid Prime Trilogy leaked by NateDrake's slip-up.

Like how he made the video private

 

[PsySmasher]

This is a real rookie mistake for collision boxes. Fortunately it's the kind of thing that's quite easily patchable.

Considering there is a Day 1 patch, this might get fixed as soon as the game comes out, which would be preferable.

 

[StrawHatX]

Uh oh here we go.

Metroid Prime Trilogy with Prime 4 trailer and....

Sylux announced as first Ultimate DLC character....

 

[Deleted member]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I hope I never have to deal with this...

We were too caught up in asking if we could get the Ice Climbers back we never stopped to think if we should.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

My predictions for Nintendo at VGA:
Metroid and Smash

The end

 

[Tree Gelbman]

I swear I feel like Regina George to Gretchen Weiners about Sylux in Smash.

Sylux = Fetch.

 

[kirbsmash]

We were too caught up in asking if we could get the Ice Climbers back we never stopped to think if we should.

SSHHH LET ME LOVE MY BABIES

 

[Deleted member]

Outside of Smash @ VGAs, if Obsidian is making that Harry Potter RPG that got leaked a month or two ago, that's gotta be the Obsidian RPG.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Anyone post this match-up yet?

The battle between reptilian kings. Best thing about this fight.

Spoiler

My boi won!

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

I want a Crash Bandicoot game reveal at the game awards

 

[Nekoo]

Outside of Smash @ VGAs, if Obsidian is making that Harry Potter RPG that got leaked a month or two ago, that's gotta be the Obsidian RPG.

>Super cool looking Harry Potter Obsidian RPG
>It's ****ing Xbox exclusive


Worst timeline

 

[TheCJBrine]

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I hope I never have to deal with this...

They shall conquer all.

Yes, muahahaha.

 

[Cyn]

I gotta agree with this. I'm sick of ports.

This is one of the few ports I would get excited about.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

For the people who wanted a link/source, here's when Metroid Prime Trilogy leaked by NateDrake's slip-up.

Huh, I wonder if it's just gonna be a port of the Metroid Prime Trilogy on the Wii, or what...

 

[Tree Gelbman]

My predictions for Nintendo at VGA:
Metroid and Smash

The end

''FOUR FOR YOU SAMUS ARAN!! YOU GO SAMUS ARAN!"
''Do we have a Smush Brothers? A smush brothers?"
''It's Smash Brothers."
''Oh here you go Smash Brothers. One for you."
''Uhm?!"
''And none for Bayonetta. Bye."

 

[Deleted member]

>Super cool looking Harry Potter Obsidian RPG
>It's ****ing Xbox exclusive


Worst timeline

GOD ****ING DAMMIT, THAT'S RIGHT.
THEY BOUGHT OUT OBSIDIAN EVEN THOUGH IT SAVED THE COMPANY FINANCIALLY PROBABLY, BUT STILL.

 

[PeridotGX]

Honestly

Uh oh here we go.

Metroid Prime Trilogy with Prime 4 trailer and....

Sylux announced as first Ultimate DLC character....

Major dissapointment. I don't care about Metroid at all, so seeing the series get a 5th character (While Kirby hasn't gotten anything) would disappoint me.

 

[Impa4Smash]

Get ready. VGAs. Smash logo. And then on the screen:

Spoiler

 

[CallMeKnux]

Also off topic from Smash but I think Mortal Kombat 11 is very, very, veeery likely to drop at the VGA's

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I'm just glad that my boi's Final Boss is a little more interesting than Master Hand/Crazy Hand...

Is there a doc with the boss list?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Also off topic from Smash but I think Mortal Kombat 11 is very, very, veeery likely to drop at the VGA's

I'm not too knowledgeable about VGA's but have they ever announced games there otherwise I'd expect it in next years E3.

 

[Deleted member]

Metroid Prime Trilogy is 100% getting paired with MP4 news so I'm interested but also disappointed because, even if I know not everything is about Smash, the Mystery of the Secret Square Fighter™ is gonna eat me from the inside for quite a while.

Interesting.

Reading this thread, it seems like Lylat (or any stage) isn't really the problem with characters falling through. It really looks like it's something with the game's engine instead.

Ban it anyways

 

[CallMeKnux]

I'm not too knowledgeable about VGA's but have they ever announced games there otherwise I'd expect it in next years E3.

They have before. Hell, Soul Calibur 6 got announced last year iirc.

 

[kirbsmash]

Metroid Prime Trilogy is 100% getting paired with MP4 news so I'm interested but also disappointed because, even if I know not everything is about Smash, the Mystery of the Secret Square Fighter™ is gonna eat me from the inside for quite a while.

Ban it anyways

Why is it so bad? What's wrong with it?

 

[DevaAshera]

It's so unlikely that I'm not willing to entertain it as a realistic possibility and you shouldn't either

I've learned to not count out anything, especially when it comes to Super Smash Bros. Anything is likely and realistic unless Sakurai directly said something against it. Echo Fighter DLC characters outside of the Fighter Pass is still likely enough, I sincerely doubt that all Smash DLC will be tied to the Fighter Pass(es).

They have before. Hell, Soul Calibur 6 got announced last year iirc.

Bayonetta 3 was announced at the VGAs last year too...though we haven't been heard about it since..

 

[Michael the Spikester]

They have before. Hell, Soul Calibur 6 got announced last year iirc.

Ah well in that case I can see it being announced next week or next years E3. One of the two at least.

 

[JLU51306]

My girl looks so much more fun to play this time around.

Can we talk about CPU Snakes recovery at 0:55?? That was amazing.

 

[Dyllybirdy]

>Super cool looking Harry Potter Obsidian RPG
>It's ****ing Xbox exclusive


Worst timeline

At the VGA, they're probably going to announce, that Smash, is an Xbox exclusive.

 

[Flyboy]

Anyone post this match-up yet?

The battle between reptilian kings. Best thing about this fight.

Spoiler

My boi won!

****ING TOWN AND CITY

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

''FOUR FOR YOU SAMUS ARAN!! YOU GO SAMUS ARAN!"
''Do we have a Smush Brothers? A smush brothers?"
''It's Smash Brothers."
''Oh here you go Smash Brothers. One for you."
''Uhm?!"
''And none for Bayonetta. Bye."

Why the **** is your avatar gender bent grinch with hair

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Sylux being announced as the first of the 5 DLC characters would be icing on cake on top of Metroid Prime Trilogy & 4 being announced.

 

[Shroob]

So Smash is looking likely for the VGAs again?

Well, only 5 more days to wait and see I guess.