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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Can people here stop threatening me? It's actually getting kind of scary. You can't get me to like memes. You can't get me to like Nintendo games, and you can't get me to loose my optimism.
Not sure why you wouldn't like Nintendo and play Smash since like 90% of the characters are from Nintendo. Not to mention you have to buy Nintendo hardware to play it. I get the Switch has better third party support but what the heck did you do with the Wii U?
 

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Hello, it's been a while. What did I miss?

Well...other than the leaks and datamine....

Also, hearing about there being two possible 'bad ending' shocks me. There is no way there are bad endings... I mean there wasnt one in Brawl...
 
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Hello, it's been a while. What did I miss?

Well...other than the leaks and datamine....

Also, hearing about there being two possible 'bad ending' shocks me. There is no way there are bad endings... I mean there wasnt one in Brawl...
Well the game awards is gonna have a lot of game announcements, and there's a small chance of something smash being there, I think.

Also smash Ultimate is getting modded I think.
 

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Hello, it's been a while. What did I miss?

Well...other than the leaks and datamine....

Also, hearing about there being two possible 'bad ending' shocks me. There is no way there are bad endings... I mean there wasnt one in Brawl...
Shockingly enough, Ultimate isn't Brawl.
 

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Not sure why you wouldn't like Nintendo and play Smash since like 90% of the characters are from Nintendo. Not to mention you have to buy Nintendo hardware to play it. I get the Switch has better third party support but what the heck did you do with the Wii U?
I used it to play Bayonetta, Shovel Knight, Pokken, Splatoon, and Smash. Then I kind of moved on. I don’t really use it all that much, but it was a birthday present.

I play Smash mostly because I was kind of forced to. My high school had a video game club and they’d just play tournaments of Smash all the time. It was Brawl, so I picked up Snake. I was hooked on the gameplay. But when Smash4 came around I didn’t really have a main till DLC came out and I picked up Ryu. I still pretty much just play as third parties and I take pleasure in beating up that smug plumber and his stupid friends. It’s why I want so many third parties to join the roster to begin with.

Also, i’ve never played any but i’m really keen on trying out DKC sense I love Rare.

Plus, with a lot of them. I kind of like the story and world but can’t stand the gameplay. Aside from Mario which I just hate, I really like the worlds of games like Pokémon, Kid Icarus, Earthbound, and kind of halfway with Zelda. But I don’t play the games because I don’t like the way they play. But sense Smash isn’t really about that and is using cool characters in ways I can actually enjoy them, then I’m happy.

Believe me, if they ever do a DMC/Bayonetta style game with Zelda, Kid Icarus, or Pokémon. Or a Life is Strange style game with EarthBound. I will be all over it.
 
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Does unlocking a character in World Of Light actually unlock them in the whole game? I've seen people say both yes & no, so I want to know what's actually true.
 

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Shockingly enough, Ultimate isn't Brawl.
:thinking: But what about the ending? It could just be a fake information.

I mean, I was told on reddit that there are three different ending. Two is bad endings, while one is a true ending.

As the topic stated, leakers are mixing in troll information with true facts. I actually don't like the bad ending...
 

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I used it to play Bayonetta, Shovel Knight, Pokken, Splatoon, and Smash. Then I kind of moved on. I don’t really use it all that much, but it was a birthday present.

I play Smash mostly because I was kind of forced to. My high school had a video game club and they’d just play tournaments of Smash all the time. It was Brawl, so I picked up Snake. I was hooked on the gameplay. But when Smash4 came around I didn’t really have a main till DLC came out and I picked up Ryu. I still pretty much just play as third parties and I take pleasure in beating up that smug plumber and his stupid friends. It’s why I want so many third parties to join the roster to begin with.

Plus, with a lot of them. I kind of like the story and world but can’t stand the gameplay. Aside from Mario which I just hate, I really like the worlds of games like Pokémon, Kid Icarus, Earthbound, and kind of halfway with Zelda. But I don’t play the games because I don’t like the way they play. But sense Smash isn’t really about that and is using cool characters in ways I can actually enjoy them, then I’m happy.

Believe me, if they ever do a DMC/Bayonetta style game with Zelda, Kid Icarus, or Pokémon. Or a Life is Strange style game with EarthBound. I will be all over it.
You have great taste in which 3rd parties to main

This is the first time I've actually seen someone genuinely hate Mario. I've stumbled upon people who don't like Mario but never someone who straight out admits to hating Mario.

I actually don't like the bad ending...
Reason enough for you to do your best to get the good ending
 
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:thinking: But what about the ending? It could just be a fake information.

I mean, I was told on reddit that there are three different ending. Two is bad endings, while one is a true ending.

As the topic stated, leakers are mixing in troll information with true facts. I actually don't like the bad ending...
It is indeed true. If you don't like bad endings, you have to work for the good one.
 

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:thinking: But what about the ending? It could just be a fake information.

I mean, I was told on reddit that there are three different ending. Two is bad endings, while one is a true ending.

As the topic stated, leakers are mixing in troll information with true facts. I actually don't like the bad ending...
Bad Endings are real, since
the datamined cutscenes imply 3 different conclusions.
 
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:thinking: But what about the ending? It could just be a fake information.

I mean, I was told on reddit that there are three different ending. Two is bad endings, while one is a true ending.

As the topic stated, leakers are mixing in troll information with true facts. I actually don't like the bad ending...
Bad endings exist yeah. There’s two bad ends and one good end.
 

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Ugh, I was redirected to ads while trying to reply to beans. Anyways...
Bad Endings are real, since
the datamined cutscenes imply 3 different conclusions.
This doesn't make me any better. I guess I will have to work harder then.

I just don't like bad endings. They make the player feel bad and punished, IMO.

'Imply' word doesn't help, either. It's quite possible that you get a bad ending in the first map, leading you to unlock the second map which also leads to bad ending and last world unlock which will eventually lead into true ending.

I hope if there is a new story mode in Smash, that there's no bad ending aka Brawl's ending.
 

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Ugh, I was redirected to ads while trying to reply to beans. Anyways...


This doesn't make me any better. I guess I will have to work harder then.

I just don't like bad endings. They make the player feel bad and punished, IMO.

'Imply' word doesn't help, either. It's quite possible that you get a bad ending in the first map, leading you to unlock the second map which also leads to bad ending and last world unlock which will eventually lead into true ending.

I hope if there is a new story mode in Smash, that there's no bad ending aka Brawl's ending.
Thats....thats literally the point of bad endings
 

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You have great taste in which 3rd parties to main

This is the first time I've actually seen someone genuinely hate Mario. I've stumbled upon people who don't like Mario but never someone who straight out admits to hating Mario.
I main ALL of them. Snake, Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Ryu, Cloud, and Bayonetta. I'm definatly picking up Simon, Richter, and Ken. Ridley and K. Rool also interest me, but depending on the DLC they are the first ones I'm dropping.

Mario and Mickey Mouse. Those are the two that I hate most of all.
 
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Now play Order of Ecclesia. It's in my top 3 favourite games. And stan Shanoa with me, cause she has Alucard's 2 handed **** meaning once you get a Scythe, you can put em on both hands and mash the **** out of X and Y until the enemy is dead or your magic depletes
What console is it on again?
 
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I still stand by my belief that Chrom was the last character completed, but not necessarily the last character added.

I mean, compared to the other echoes that aren't Ken, he has the most amount of changes, and significant ones at that. He and Ken are the only Echo newcomers to have distinctly unique Final Smashes, he has a completely different up special from his base character, and a large percent of his animations had to be fully redone on account of not using Roy's reverse grip style. Also, no fire.

Like, that stuff is significant.
I wouldn't be surprised later down Smash Ultimate's lifecycle or if there'll actually be another Smash game that Ken becomes an entirely unique fighter and becomes Ryu's Luigi. He really doesn't seem that much of an Echo Fighter, looking at all the gameplay.

I just wish Chrom was touched up a bit more. If that early leak of Ken's model got touched up drastically when you compare it to the current model we have of Ken, Chrom has no excuse.
 

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I love how much of an irrational fear of Geno @tehponycorn has.

Anything remotely positive said about him and I feel like I should jokingly pull out a wooden doll and ask him to show where the bad wooden doll touched him.

But that might make him run away in fear.

I kid, bud. I kid. I just notice this trend with you lately.
This is like Sora’s biggest chance being in Smash and tehpony wants it badly along with having one of the biggest franchises and a popular third party/fan want join Smash.

But at the same time, Geno fans still want to take their best shot after Sakurai putting them in the spotlight before, and years of tons of support. It would be the biggest underdog victories if Geno were to happen.

When it comes to situation like these, my only response/wish is:
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This doesn't make me any better. I guess I will have to work harder then.

I just don't like bad endings. They make the player feel bad and punished, IMO.

'Imply' word doesn't help, either. It's quite possible that you get a bad ending in the first map, leading you to unlock the second map which also leads to bad ending and last world unlock which will eventually lead into true ending.

I hope if there is a new story mode in Smash, that there's no bad ending aka Brawl's ending.
No
From the three conclusive cutscenes we have, the one where Galeem gets neutralized and Dharkon bathing the world in darkness (as Dharkon wins ending), one with Dharkon being destroyed and Galeem redoing his flash of light (as Galeem wins ending), and the last one were both fall.
There is already one where Dharkon gets introduced, a different cutscene altogether from the one where Galeem gets impriosened
 
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This is like Sora’s biggest chance being in Smash and tehpony wants it badly along with having one of the biggest franchises and a popular third party/fan want join Smash.

But at the same time, Geno fans still want to take their best shot after Sakurai putting them in the spotlight before, and years of tons of support. It would be the biggest underdog victories if Geno were to happen.

When it comes to situation like these, my only response/wish is:
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I agree, I wish there were two Square Enix slots so people weren't so antsy about it. But then it would probably just be Sephiroth and a Dragon Quest character, so maybe I should be careful what I wish for lol
 
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This is like Sora’s biggest chance being in Smash and tehpony wants it badly along with having one of the biggest franchises and a popular third party/fan want join Smash.

But at the same time, Geno fans still want to take their best shot after Sakurai putting them in the spotlight before, and years of tons of support. It would be the biggest underdog victories if Geno were to happen.

When it comes to situation like these, my only response/wish is:
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Here's y'all problem with the Square rep. You guys are vouching for the wrong characters.

The Square rep should be Sazh from Final Fantasy XIII.

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You know what Smash needs badly? A Scythe user. Obscure side of Smashboards, show me your cool scythe users who could be in Smash so I can support them too.
How about the double-bladed scythe user named Shiki from Senran Kagura? Spoiler warning: the outfit is a little bit risqué
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Hello, it's been a while. What did I miss?

Well...other than the leaks and datamine....

Also, hearing about there being two possible 'bad ending' shocks me. There is no way there are bad endings... I mean there wasnt one in Brawl...
:thinking: But what about the ending? It could just be a fake information.

I mean, I was told on reddit that there are three different ending. Two is bad endings, while one is a true ending.

As the topic stated, leakers are mixing in troll information with true facts. I actually don't like the bad ending...
You have great taste in which 3rd parties to main

This is the first time I've actually seen someone genuinely hate Mario. I've stumbled upon people who don't like Mario but never someone who straight out admits to hating Mario.



Reason enough for you to do your best to get the good ending
It is indeed true. If you don't like bad endings, you have to work for the good one.
Bad Endings are real, since
the datamined cutscenes imply 3 different conclusions.
Bad endings exist yeah. There’s two bad ends and one good end.
Ugh, I was redirected to ads while trying to reply to beans. Anyways...


This doesn't make me any better. I guess I will have to work harder then.

I just don't like bad endings. They make the player feel bad and punished, IMO.

'Imply' word doesn't help, either. It's quite possible that you get a bad ending in the first map, leading you to unlock the second map which also leads to bad ending and last world unlock which will eventually lead into true ending.

I hope if there is a new story mode in Smash, that there's no bad ending aka Brawl's ending.
Thats....thats literally the point of bad endings
Exactly. I kind get it when games have bad ending, but nowadays I still think that bad endings just could be removed. Maybe it's just me, but I used to like discovering endings, but now bad endings just disgust me and isn't for me anymore.
No
From the three conclusive cutscenes we have, the one where Galeem gets neutralized and Dharkon bathing the world in darkness (as Dharkon wins ending), one with Dharkon being destroyed and Galeem redoing his flash of light (as Galeem wins ending), and the last one where both fall.
I'm awaiting Ultimate being covered by whoisthisgit in his Creepy Bad Endings series. Also, I tried looking for the endings, but couldn't find them. Nintendo is being fairly thorough in its DMCAs (but not thorough enough to keep me from finding Galeem's boss fight or Dharkon's introduction).
 
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I’m wondering, how many fighting games have done an ‘everyone is here’ thing? The most prominent examples in my head are Marvel vs Capcom 2 and Killer Instinct, but what others?
 
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