Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Deleted member]

Oh boy. Here we go again on Nomura's wild ride if true.

Inb4, Kingdom Hearts 4.

 

[PsySmasher]

Ridley is a fast killer.
He needs the speed to hunt his prey.

Especially since he weighs less than Samus & Bowser Jr.
He needs to be fast to compensate for that.

 

[T3Z3R1]

rip bayonetta, she got nerf bat given by sakurai

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[Royalty1702]

DBS Broly is going to be great.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Inb4, Kingdom Hearts 4.

Oh we already know there's going to be more after KH3.

 

[praline]

Piranha Plant was pretty far in development when he was revealed. That might explain why his stats are finalized already.

I guess it’s so slow cause it has tiny feet

 

[KMDP]

Also for this GT vs Super debate.

GT didn't introduce a single character or characters that comes close to the greatness that is Beerus and Whis.

Thus GT is poopy mcpoop fartface.

Such honesty is refreshing.

Also, I don't care what anyone says, Caulifla, Kale and Kefla were fine characters.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Especially since he weighs less than Samus & Bowser Jr.
He needs to be fast to compensate for that.

Hopefully the speed should help Ridley out in the meta and tiers.

 

[praline]

Oh we already know there's going to be more after KH3.

Isn’t Kingdom Hearts 3 just the finale of the Sora arc so 4 would have a new protagonist

 

[Deleted member]

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Plup was a martyr all along.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Isn’t Kingdom Hearts 3 just the finale of the Sora arc so 4 would have a new protagonist

Actually, it's not even the end of Sora's arc. It's billed as the end of the Xehanort arc, at long, last!

 

[ClaTheBae]

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It's gonna be pikachu in ultimate, watch

 

[T3Z3R1]

Either @tehponycorn or Nekoo might know possibly, but from all I've heard was that

Spoiler: UH I THINK SPOILER?

Nobody is going to be 100% satisfied with the ending, or some **** like that.

Did someone just leaked KH3's plot? 'cause I saw the thread on /v/ that have KH3 spoilers in it few weeks back, I don't remember what was in said spoiler.

 

[staindgrey]

Either @tehponycorn or Nekoo might know possibly, but from all I've heard was that

Spoiler: UH I THINK SPOILER?

Nobody is going to be 100% satisfied with the ending, or some **** like that.

Can't that apply to anything at KH3's hype levels, though?

Like, are we talking a Mass Effect 3 kind of ending? Because I can't handle that **** again.

 

[praline]

Actually, it's not even the end of Sora's arc. It's billed as the end of the Xehanort arc, at long, Kingdom Come's past!

Well I knew it was someone’s arc that was ending lol

 

[beans]

Isn’t Kingdom Hearts 3 just the finale of the Sora arc so 4 would have a new protagonist

No, finale of Xehanort arc
So we gonna kiss godbye to Leonard Nimoy

 

[KMDP]

Isn’t Kingdom Hearts 3 just the finale of the Sora arc so 4 would have a new protagonist

You got that wrong.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is the finale of the Xehanort arc. Sora will remain the protagonist. Nomura said this himself.

17? He's on an island somewhere training by himself and has scaled appropriately with the people who fought Majin Buu despite, uh. Being an android.

Android 17 and 18 aren't actually Androids, they're cyborgs.

8, 13, 14, 15 and 19 are Androids, though. Android 20 is also technically an Android, but the presence of Gero's brain makes him a Cyborg.

Cell is... um... let's just go with "Bio Android" like DB Online and Heroes does.

DBS Broly is going to be great.

Yes.

 

[Troykv]

Why Dragon Ball is still popular?

It shouldn't have died of over using their tropes and killing shonen anime?

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Like, are we talking a Mass Effect 3 kind of ending? Because I can't handle that **** again.

Given the trends of how borked the stories of KH games made by the team behind this game (they did BBS and 3D for good measure), I'm pretty sure this is what he meant.

 

[praline]

Why Dragon Ball is still popular?

It shouldn't have died of over using their tropes and killing shonen anime?

Sometimes it’s just fun to watch 2 super strong men punching eachother.

 

[Iridium]

Don't get grabbed near the edges. #SSBU_INC #SSBU_INCINEROAR pic.twitter.com/hLG39snyln

— piu (@piuzera_) November 29, 2018

Stupid, but I'll take it.

 

[staindgrey]

DBS Broly is going to be great.

I genuinely wish Super was nothing but movies.

Battle of Gods, then Resurrection F, then the Goku Black arc (since Black, Zamasu, Trunks, Mai, Goku and Vegeta are the only characters who matter anyway), then the ToP without all of the filler and villain-of-the-week setup. Then Broly.

Bam. Five movies condensed and well animated. It's not like any of the Super arcs had so many necessary twists and turns that it couldn't be retold in about 90min.

 

[Robertman2]

The height of DBZ is Team Four Star's Cell Saga. It's near damn perfect.

Either @tehponycorn or Nekoo might know possibly, but from all I've heard was that

Spoiler: UH I THINK SPOILER?

Nobody is going to be 100% satisfied with the ending, or some **** like that.

Tbfh fans not being 100% satisfied is a given with nearly any big conclusion.

 

[Nekoo]

Either @tehponycorn or Nekoo might know possibly, but from all I've heard was that

Spoiler: UH I THINK SPOILER?

Nobody is going to be 100% satisfied with the ending, or some **** like that.

Spoiler

Kind of. Nomura said the Ending will be bittersweet and hard to take for some fans.
Some people think a characters might die for good or get locked somewhere. People are banking on Sora or Riku right now.

 

[DraginHikari]

Dragonball is a series I can enjoy because I can't take the story all that seriously as it's always been a plot contrived mess. I enjoy it more because it's a fun series.

Why Dragon Ball is still popular?

It shouldn't have died of over using their tropes and killing shonen anime?

Dragonball pretty widespread appeal in many place which is why it keeps going frankly.

Hopefully the speed should help Ridley out in the meta and tiers.

Depends if he can avoid being turned into combo bait due to his size what I can tell.

 

[kirbsmash]

I wanna see Super Broly and not his ugly GOKU-CALLING old self again.

 

[Aerospherology]

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Mii Gunner might win a high-level tournament if the Miis aren't banned. Some are saying that Gunner is top tier.

 

[beans]

Spoiler

Kind of. Nomura said the Ending will be bittersweet and hard to take for some fans.
Some people think a characters might die for good or get locked somewhere. People are banking on Sora or Riku right now.

Spoiler: My guess

Probs going to be Xion back to nothing or Roxas and Ventus weird stuff

 

[Royalty1702]

Why Dragon Ball is still popular?

It shouldn't have died of over using their tropes and killing shonen anime?

Sounds like someone has a bias against DB.

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Spoiler

Kind of. Nomura said the Ending will be bittersweet and hard to take for some fans.
Some people think a characters might die for good or get locked somewhere. People are banking on Sora or Riku right now.

Oh good grief. Not again. Darkness Induced Audience Apathy can only get so strong with this series.

 

[GoeGoe]

I distinctively remember the Exit in MM7 only making you leave the stage when you've already beat the boss. Otherwise I'm clueless about other games since I've pretty much stopped after 7.

Edit: Actually Mega Man X8 is the last overall Mega Man game I've played (was pretty good), and apparently that one also lets you exit regardless of clearing the stage. Since I haven't played that in like, 5 years, my lack of memory should be justified.

It's ok. But why have you stopped at 7? 8 was great.. well, Rockman 8 that is.
I didn't go through till X8 however.

 

[Deleted member]

Why Dragon Ball is still popular?

It shouldn't have died of over using their tropes and killing shonen anime?

Despite its stupidness, dragon ball can be pretty fun. You also got to remember that DBZ is old, and popularised a lot of tropes you see in shonen these days.

 

[PsySmasher]

Spoiler

Kind of. Nomura said the Ending will be bittersweet and hard to take for some fans.
Some people think a characters might die for good or get locked somewhere. People are banking on Sora or Riku right now.

Spoiler

I'm not the most knowledgeable on KH's story. But if I had to take a guess on who's dying I'd go with either Riku or Aqua.
Nothing to really support that, just a gut feeling.

 

[DraginHikari]

Mii Gunner might win a high-level tournament if the Miis aren't banned. Some are saying that Gunner is top tier.

I would kind of wonder if have a default mii with just the base abilities would be enough to make them viable in that regards, though I wasn't around for the discussion involving them for Smash 4 so I don't know how that played out.

 

[Graizen]

Funny how we have a bunch of characters in Smash that are lizards.
Some new, like Ridley and Krool.
If they put agumon in the game , we will have 7 lizards.
Greninja is a frog so he is not a lizard, but he IS a frog, and thats cool.

Bowser, Yoshi , Bowser Jr, Charizard, Ridley and Krool

 

[Aerospherology]

Funny how we have a bunch of characters in Smash that are lizards.
Some new, like Ridley and Krool.
If they put agumon in the game , we will have 7 lizards.
Greninja is a frog so he is not a lizard, but he IS a frog, and thats cool.

Sakurai is a scaly...?

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

Funny how we have a bunch of characters in Smash that are lizards.
Some new, like Ridley and Krool.
If they put agumon in the game , we will have 7 lizards.
Greninja is a frog so he is not a lizard, but he IS a frog, and thats cool.

Bowser, Yoshi , Bowser Jr, Charizard, Ridley and Krool

I think the term you're looking for to describe them all is scaly and slimy. XD

 

[staindgrey]

Android 17 and 18 aren't actually Androids, they're cyborgs.

8, 13, 14, 15 and 19 are Androids, though. Android 20 is also technically an Android, but the presence of Gero's brain makes him a Cyborg.

Yes I know. But unless they elaborate on latent human potential past what meager heights Krillin and Tien have achieved, the androids cyborgs are relying almost exclusively on their cybernetic enhancements for their power. Being able to train those parts of their body is ludicrous. It's like me saying my car will learn to go faster if I just keep driving it more.

So Super could have gone one of two ways and had it make sense:

1) Bulma offers to enhance 17's strength with her "I can make anything" BS and gives him a significant power boost before the ToP. 18 declines because she's comfortable where she is and wants to be a sparring partner for her hubby.
2) They go in depth with human potential in the way that the manga did with Gohan; explain that Gohan's unique potential is derived from his saiyan AND human sides, and that his ultimate form is when he's allowing his human power to coexist rather than be dominated by his saiyan power. If they better established that, then it would be more believable that 17's inorganic enhancements allowed him to bypass mortal limitations and draw out a power similar to Gohan's, but only if he had a greater external force to work against.

Instead we got, "I've been doing pushups alone on an island full of animals for years and now I can spar with gods."

 

[kirbsmash]

Any thoughts on the new Broly so far?

 

[KiwiK]

It's ok. But why have you stopped at 7? 8 was great.. well, Rockman 8 that is.
I didn't go through till X8 however.

I never had any of the consoles that had Mega Man 8 natively. If they were in any bundles for a console I had, I probably never bothered to buy or find them.
I did take the chance to see people stream MM8, though, and I felt the pacing was lackluster at best compared to 7, mostly because of one too many gimmicks that overstay their welcome, the snowboarding sections in particular.