Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Nekoo]

https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...s-ultimate-world-of-light-launch-update-more/
in case it hasn't been posted already, Smash is indeed getting a day 1 patch.

>Launch update is real

Welp, time to sit back, relax, and watch the firework.

 

[Good Guy Giygas]

- Koopa's Road
- Flooded Hyrule Castle
- Gankplank Galleon
- Yoshi's House
- Goldenrod City Magnet Train Station
- Andross' Lair
- SR388
- Happy Happy Village
- Underworld
- Radical Highway
- Kattelox City
- Dedede's Castle
- Inkopolis Plaza

Happy Happy Village would be hilarious, but I have a feeling they'd never let it fly in Smash lol. SR388 would be neat too; surprised they haven't done something like that yet tbh.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

In your personal opinion DaybreakHorizon . Do you think we still have a chance for the first Smash DLC to be revealed at the game awards?

I think it could happen as @Luigi The President stated Metwo was announced pretty early for the Smash Wii U DLC.

I think the first DLC will be released January or February 2019. So if they announce the first DLC character in December it could make sense.

At this point it's anyone's game. I sure hope the Doritos Pope will deliver, but I'm not expecting anything whatsoever, except for some bull**** choices for award winners.

 

[Deleted member]

At this point it's anyone's game. I sure hope the Doritos Pope will deliver, but I'm not expecting anything whatsoever, except for some bull**** choices for award winners.

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT HE'S DELIVERING, BECAUSE THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS YEAR IS THAT JOSEF FARES IS BACK, BABY!

**** THE OSCARS.

Last year Josef Fares gave one of the most memorable speeches in #TheGameAwards history! We’re looking forward to seeing him again on December 6th! #MemorableMonday pic.twitter.com/w05P9VQgx7

— The Game Awards (@thegameawards) November 26, 2018

 

[A.G.L.]

Here, I'll list out what was announced/shown at The Game Awards 2017.

NEW STUFF / UPDATES / WORLD PREMIERES
Bayonetta 1 + 2 for Switch, Bayonetta 3 confirmed reveal
The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild DLC Pack 2 - The Champion's Ballad, announced, revealed and released that same night
Sekiro: Shadows Die Twice teaser reveal
World War Z reveal
GTFO reveal
Vacation Simulator reveal
Accounting+ from Rick and Morty creator, reveal
In the Valley of Gods, by Firewatch devs, reveal
Soul Calibur VI official reveal
Fortnite 50 v 50 mode update
More Death Stranding updates
Witchfire reveal, from The Vanishing of Ethan Carter devs
Sea of Thieves update
PUBG new map update
Metro: Exodus trailer
Dreams reveal

Pretty much 16 announcements in general. The fact that there's more than 10 new game announcements? AND updates to existing titles? I think it isn't THAT unreasonable to say that there could be an update on Smash Ultimate DLC. However, Metroid Prime Trilogy + 4? Of ****ing course.

I really hope we get some Daemon X Machina gameplay and information. That game looks like its going to be amazing, cant wait.

At this point it's anyone's game. I sure hope the Doritos Pope will deliver, but I'm not expecting anything whatsoever, except for some bull**** choices for award winners.

I can see it happening with the recent information of 10 new games announcements at The Game Awards. I wouldn't doubt that we will get some sort of Smash Bros Ultimate announcement. Especially because its the day before the release of Smash Bros Ultimate.

 

[osby]

https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...s-ultimate-world-of-light-launch-update-more/
in case it hasn't been posted already, Smash is indeed getting a day 1 patch.

*explains about Bayonetta and Palutena*

That actually makes sense (though I think he added stuff to KI again). I hope after the game's out, Sakurai continues explaining stuff about Adventure Mode like he did in Brawl.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Hey guys. I got some interesting news:

We now know who sings the English version of Lifelight.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

It's Abby Trott.

She voices Pod 153 in Nier: Automata and Laegjarn in FE Heroes.

I'll tag @NineS here for obvious reasons.

She also voices Maya Fey in the Phoenix Wright series.

I'm most interested in how she credits Greg Chun with giving vocal direction. You know, the guy who voices Ike and Ephraim.

HE CAN SING?!

I want a Fire Emblem musical NOW (and don't think you're funny and tell me "but they already made it" and give me that clip from #FE Tokyo Mirage Sessions. You're not funny, and I don't want it.).

 

[KarneraMythos]

Okay so what's everybody's kinda opinion on each character as of now?

Splatoon is a great new IP and they were my Most-Wanted along with Monster Hunter back in the ballot
It's really neat having her playable finally, at the expense of hearing the loudest part of Waluigi's fanbase
One of the coolest newcomers. Good on his fans, honestly
I think it's great that he's even playable at all. Castlevania is a fantastic franchise and it's definitely earned a spot in Smash
Probably my favorite Belmont of them all. I held out hope for Simon in Smash 4 due to wanting Alucard to yell "Soul Steal!" as an Assist Trophy
Pretty neat. Mostly indifferent, but she's definitely a cool addition nonetheless
It was bound to happen. The only Fire Emblem characters I use are Ike, Lucina, and Robin, but it's still a nice gesture to Chrom's fans that he's in the roster. His treatment in Smash 4 was pretty mean-spirited. Personally, I would rather have Lyn, but she's a Never-Ever at this point
Same deal with Ridley. He's a welcome addition to the roster, for sure
An absolute cinnamon roll. I plan on using her alongside the Inklings, Simon, and Richter
Straightforward character choice, but it's still Ken-Freaking-Masters at the end of the day. Being voiced by Reuben Langdon also helps a ton
#NotMyGen7Rep. I kid, I kid. While there are other Pokemon I prefer, he's full of personality. He's a pretty cool Zangief Expy with a bit of Macho Man/Kane in his character. I'll likely pick up down the line. Hopefully, his proportions don't get in the way of model imports
A nice change of pace and a neat rival to Yoshi. Comes with the caveat having to hear "OMG ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE" from people though. If Jesus, then Aliens, I guess

 

[T3Z3R1]

https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...s-ultimate-world-of-light-launch-update-more/
in case it hasn't been posted already, Smash is indeed getting a day 1 patch.

Welp, that reddit leaker who leaked about incienroar and Pirhana plant was correct about day one patch.

we may need to know GB size of this patch tho.

 

[Alternis]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

This is a fun question, though I'll only add ones I have any real experience with:

: Bowser's Castle
: Hyrule Castle
: Any level based on the factory theme
: Jambandra Base
: Aether Foundation
: Phendrana Drifts
: Chaos Vortex
: Spawning Grounds
: Tantal


: Icicle Mountain

 

[Idon]

YOU'RE DAMN RIGHT HE'S DELIVERING, BECAUSE THE ONLY GOOD THING ABOUT THIS YEAR IS THAT JOSEF FARES IS BACK, BABY!

**** THE OSCARS.

Last year Josef Fares gave one of the most memorable speeches in #TheGameAwards history! We’re looking forward to seeing him again on December 6th! #MemorableMonday pic.twitter.com/w05P9VQgx7

— The Game Awards (@thegameawards) November 26, 2018

OSCARS STATUS: ****ED.

I'll be damned if this isn't the biggest highlight of the show.

 

[Deleted member]

OSCARS STATUS: ****ED.

I'll be damned if this isn't the biggest highlight of the show.

If we can hack through Smash Ultimate's walls, we can definitely do it with Wikipedia. They will not stop us from editing Josef's Wikipedia page.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Nintendo doesn't like to deal with VA's who are union.

The union thing wouldn’t make sense considering Nintendo has had Anthony Del Rio come back as Pit once more (and earlier he played Silas for Fire Emblem Heroes)

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Here's a fun game because I'm bored. If you were to add one more stage for each character/series, what would you add?

I'll start (only doing the ones I have answers for though) :
- City Trial (Air Ride)
- Minish Woods
- A Dr. Mario stage (Duh)
- Saturn Valley
- Tazmily Village
- Phendrana Drifts (so we'd have a non-lava Metroid stage)
- Central Highway
- Mother Base
- Scrap Brain Zone
- A ROB "Stack-Up" stage (just so he could have his own stage)

- Metropolitan Highway from Sonic Forces
- a Crafted World stage of some sort
- a new version of Pac-Maze
- Gusty Galaxy from Mario Galaxy
& - a stage that takes place in an actual village, unlike Smashville where it travels over it
- another BoTW stage, but instead it travels from different place to place
- another Odyssey stage, but it's hard to chose from; I'm thinking Luncheon Kingdom atm

 

[Zinith]

It turns out the Final Boss of my boi's Classic Mode isn't Giga Bowser

Spoiler

It's Rathalos

wat?

 

[Dannish]

****s up Dracula

I didn't initially see the 'up' and I was concerned.

 

[GoeGoe]

So cool stuff..
For 9 days Smash participating companies will tweet each day till release to Sakurai/Sora account.
Konami posted a Simon & Richter art, Capcom (MHB): Mario & Rathalos art as well

 

[T3Z3R1]

If we can hack through Smash Ultimate's walls, we can definitely do it with Wikipedia. They will not stop us from editing Josef's Wikipedia page.

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Oh my god, that's hilarious when was this and why is "death grips is online" spammed?

 

[alemerltoucanet]

So cool stuff..
For 9 days Smash participating companies will tweet each day till release to Sakurai/Sora account.
Konami posted a Simon & Richter art, Capcom (MHB): Mario & Rathalos art as well

I do hope SEGA gets in on the action with something featuring both Sonic and Bayonetta! That'd be so cool to see!

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

https://nintendoeverything.com/saku...s-ultimate-world-of-light-launch-update-more/
in case it hasn't been posted already, Smash is indeed getting a day 1 patch.

Welp, home run contest returns?

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

New stages? I'd probably go with like...

A pipe maze stage probably, about the only basic Mario concept we haven't seen fleshed out yet and would make a good "home stage" for Piranha Plant. Would probably be a pretty large and loop filled stage with zero competitive merit.
A traveling cave stage where the main platform is riding along minecart rails (callback to tons of DKC levels really). The stage's interactivity would be as elements scrolled on of course.
A Zelda-1 dungeon level! A lot of different room block shapes would correspond to different platform lay-outs that would shift as 2d Link in the background art transitioned between rooms. Could be a super cool level if done right.
Chozo Ruins (MP1) as a huge Temple-esque stage
Bowser's Castle as a PS1 style "transforming" stage with each transformation being based on one of the four doors. IMO the Yoshi's Island style Bowser's Castle would serve more design good than using a basic Mario one by giving Yoshi stages more variety and by taking honestly the most visually interesting Bowser area in the first place.
Honestly hard for me to care about the Kirby series...
We're pretty low on reasonable Star Fox level concepts that embody the series well honestly. Maybe you could have some stage like Bolse where you fight on top of the station and just can see the level being played out in the background (with the station being just about to be destroyed as time expires).
Pokemon is already pretty fantastically represented honestly, but if you needed another, you'd definitely want to go for a pretty natural environment that has nothing to do with legendary Pokemon since all of the current Pokemon stages are either urban areas or legendary/ruins style areas. Something as simple as a Viridian Forest stage with no shortage of Caterpie and Weedle hanging out in the background could work.
Too many easy choices, but I think Giygas would be probably the most bang for your buck. The stage would literally use the EarthBound graphics, and the actual ground would be the HP meters! They do, of course, move up for each character's turn and would become intangible if a character died (which you'd have plenty of time to react to thanks to the rolling HP meter).
You could pick almost literally any course and make it work, but since we already have basically every angle of fighting on tracks (touring along like PTAD, riding cars from behind on Mute City SNES, riding cars from the side like Big Blue), your next best angle is probably having an "eye in the sky" view of one of the F-Zero tracks, fighting on some generic tech-looking platforms that look like an announcer's booth, and have some super cheesy announcer commentating on the race happening in the background while you fight in a super over the top way. You probably think that seems lame, but you aren't considering the merits of hearing BLACK SHADOW HAS TAKEN THE LEAD! HE HAS BOOST POWER! being yelled with incredible enthusiasm in the middle of a smash match.
I haven't played a ton of FE games, but most of their environments are super bland which makes the current stage design direction of more generic stages that could be from any FE game make a lot of sense to me. What we never get a sense of is the scale of an actual battle so I'd go with a touring stage moving around a very much active FE battlefield as you stop in to see lots of actual fights occurring. You'd probably want to base it on either FE10 or Fates so you could have real characters on both sides if you didn't want to be fully generic again, just pick a mission that was a big moment where both sides really went at each other (the last mission of chapter 3 in FE10 would be a really good pick if you went with that game).

That's all of the 64 and Melee series that reasonably deserve another stage (sorry and but you really don't deserve any stages beyond the garbage you already have). Most series newer than that are 3rd party or otherwise also really don't deserve more stages. Maybe there should be another Pikmin stage, but I wouldn't know where to start on that since environmental diversity is not one of Pikmin's strong suits so a third Pikmin stage would probably look pretty much just like the two we have now but with different geography and some different Pikmin monster being a hazard so kinda boring really.

 

[A.G.L.]

The union thing wouldn’t make sense considering Nintendo has had Anthony Del Rio come back as Pit once more (and earlier he played Silas for Fire Emblem Heroes)

Thats the reason I have heard so far. I know its not because Steve Burton himself doesn't want to do it. Because in a tweet he posted in back in 2015 he said he hoped they would ask him to voice Cloud. I think its because Square insists on VA's being credited. This is why other union VA's can still do voice work in Smash, but they go uncredited. With Steve Burton if he did voice Cloud he would be required by Square to be credited and Nintendo wouldn't want to do that. Thats as much as my understanding of the subject goes, if Im not mistaken osby knows more about this.

 

[dilfsR'us]

So was gaming Intel wrong again about a direct? Has it been 24 hours?

 

[Jovahexeon Joranvexeon]

EVERYONE IS DIED EXPECT FOR KIRBY!

And Maya Fey apparently. Though you'd think Sakurai would know who she is.

Hopes..... continuing to rise.

 

[osby]

It turns out the Final Boss of my boi's Classic Mode isn't Giga Bowser

Spoiler

It's Rathalos

wat?

Spoiler

Yoshi shows him who is the better dragon here

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

So was gaming Intel wrong again about a direct? Has it been 24 hours?

Ya

 

[Deleted member]

Hype Characters for Smash: Zero, Dante, Monster Hunter, Leon Kennedy, Lloyd Irving, Heihachi, Ivy, KOS MOS, Kazuma Kiryu, Flynn, Terra, Sora, Erdrick, Lara Croft, 2B, Chrono, Alucard, Soma, Bill Rizier, Ryu Hayabusa, Doomguy.

 

[Blade of Evil's Bane]

Gonna take advantage of while it's relevant to post the best Chrono Trigger track and it's not even in the actual game

And i'll do the same, can't argue if it's the best track (the whole OST is a masterpiece imo) but this one wasn't in the actual game either despite being a banger:

Also, the first comment on the video lol:

Spoiler

Where the **** is ?

Last time i've seen him:

Spoiler

Gotcha!

Just the old Link vs Pit rivalry

Spoilers I guess but have everyone seen the skull kid mii costume? It looks really good! Hope all the other character mii costume gets this treatment
https://twitter.com/_Mizumi/status/1067470607154143232?s=20

Looks really good indeed. I'm pretty sure it's because the mask hides that weird ass giant Mii head tho but for real, it's the best looking Mii costume so far imo. It should help some Skull Kid fans dealing with their terrible fate (i'm a Skull Kid fan but i won't play a Mii... i just can't...)

(Also DaybreakHorizon i heard that you were a grammar nazi now feel free to help me out whenever you want, i'm french canadian so my english is far from perfect, thx)

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

So was gaming Intel wrong again about a direct? Has it been 24 hours?

They were technically wrong.

Their source mistook the Nintendo Live event this month as a second Direct, so while a second Direct didn't happen, they were technically right because they predicted a second Nintendo event this month.

I'd call it a draw.

 

[Zinith]

Spoiler

Yoshi shows him who is the better dragon here

Spoiler

I remember getting into a Yoshi vs. Monster Hunter fight a couple months ago.

It all comes full circle

 

[GoeGoe]

I do hope SEGA gets in on the action with something featuring both Sonic and Bayonetta! That'd be so cool to see!

Isn't Bayonetta Plantinum's? I don't think it's a collab, but who knows. 8 days to tell

 

[Idon]

Isn't Bayonetta Plantinum's? I don't think it's a collab, but who knows. 8 days to tell

Platinum makes it.
Sega owns it.
Nintendo pays for it.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

Isn't Bayonetta Plantinum's? I don't think it's a collab, but who knows. 8 days to tell

What Idon said:

Platinum makes it.
Sega owns it.
Nintendo pays for it.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

not like they didnt do this back in 2009.
merry christmas.

 

[osby]

Nintendo pays for it.

Still would like to learn why. I love that games but they don't sell at all.

 

[alemerltoucanet]

not like they didnt do this back in 2009.
merry christmas.

Omg, I love this. I now want Bayo and Sonic in some Smash art even more!!

 

[Dee Dude]

I know Steve Burton defines to FF fans but I really don’t understand why they couldn’t just give him a different non union English VA if Nintendo refuses to credit him.

I mean, he’s basically a sore thumb now that and even speak can English.

Even characters with Japanese VAs speak Engrish at best.(etc)

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Still would like to learn why. I love that games but they don't sell at all.

Nintendo is one of the few companies left that actually value quality as much as profitability. Like, sure. They could pump out Mario and Zelda yearly and make a **** ton of money off of it but they know when they have something special on their hands, a cult classic or critical darling. Usually both. See Eternal Darkness, MonolithSoft in general, and Bayonetta.

It's not ALL about profit for them. It's also about pushing the industry forward. For as much as Sony has done wrong recently they do just as well as Nintendo at this too.

 

[KiBom]

Anyone have a list of all the Mii specials?

 

[Idon]

Still would like to learn why. I love that games but they don't sell at all.

They're pretty good games.
And in return they get a console exclusive franchise with a genre that isn't represented.
And a Smash Bros. character.