Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Cutie Gwen]

*Sony censor your game*
*Put tons of flash and light and remove content/Girls*

*Nintendo Censor your game*
*Improve the waifu*

????

*China censor your game*
*Winnie the Pooh's true form is shown and it is beyond mortal comprehension*

 

[Flyboy]

Uh, huh.

This is an interesting censor I didn't notice was done deliberately...

CERO and ESRB both have been hellish on sexual content (even if, yknow, breasts, not inherently sexual, etc etc) so it was probably just a safety thing for them.

It's lame, but you can't really blame Nintendo for trying to cover their asses to achieve a certain rating. God I hope a certain subsection doesn't try and make a big deal out of this.

 

[DarthEnderX]

This is literally the worst thing ever.

We got FF3 and FF4 remakes, and THEN we skip to FF7?
Like come on Squeenix, I know everybody loves FF7, but there's a non-zero amount of people that like FF5 and 6 too.
I need to play as Bartz and Terra in HD.

While I agree with you that 5 and 6 deserve remakes, I REALLY didn't like those DS remakes of 3 and 4.

What if we got Gooey instead of Slime?

That wouldn't be a very good DQ rep then would it?

 

[RyuhoFox]

Groan. That's unnecessary.

We can't have Camilla having some boobs shown but we can have an official image of Fox staring down a very lightly dressed Krystal's butt.
Priorities

 

[Ura]

Here it is.

Looks more like a 'shop after somebody saw censored Camilla.

Holy **** that design looks really good.

Much better than what they have in XC2.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Cleavage, which albeit was drawn for fanservice reasons, is something natural that occurs in everyday women's clothing.
A speedo is something that leaves very little to the imagination, and would indeed be inappropriate compared to this example.
If they censored someone like Nowi, who is blatantly sexualized for fanservice, then I wouldn't have a problem with your comparison. However, in this context, it is a complete non sequitur.

I am aware of that. I was merely asking because I was sensing double standards. That's all.

 

[praline]

Holy **** that design looks really good.

Much better than what they have in XC2.

Honestly... you’re not wrong.

 

[Pyra]

I am aware of that. I was merely asking because I was sensing double standards. That's all.

Like, from me?

Do you want to fight?
Because it sounds like you do swinging those assumptions around like that.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

just because you want it to be true doesn't mean it is

don't make me tag a mod and give you a warning for trolling :/

Bro. It was a joke. I was joking.

I thought the emojis were enough to give it away, but whatever. Guess I shouldn't do that anymore.

*Sony censor your game*
*Put tons of flash and light and remove content/Girls*

*Nintendo Censor your game*
*Improve the waifu*

????

Don't question it.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

CERO changed Mythra to a good design but leaves Prya in her ugly ass booty shorts

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Honestly **** Nintendo that **** looks GOOD. Why can't Pyra get changed either? Hell, Mythra's character leads me to believe she's the one who'd sooner wear Pyra's outfit

 

[Roberk]

Here it is.

Looks more like a 'shop after somebody saw censored Camilla.

#looksbettercoveredup Works for both Mythra and Camilla it seems.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Like, from me?

Do you want to fight?
Because it sounds like you do swinging those assumptions around like that.

I'm always down for a brawl. Let's settle it in Smash.

 

[Starbound]

Speaking of waifus....

Twintelle as DLC yes/no?

Yes I know she's a spirit but humor me here.

 

[Pyra]

We can't have Camilla having some boobs shown but we can have an official image of Fox staring down a very lightly dressed Krystal's butt.
Priorities

Animals in their natural habitat. You can't **** with nature.

Well, besides human breasts. Those don't count.

 

[Pokechu]

Bro. It was a joke. I was joking.

I thought the emojis were enough to give it away, but whatever. Guess I shouldn't do that anymore.

Oh nah I was trolling too, sorry you couldn't tell, I'm kind of dry LOL

 

[Troykv]

Ni tendo changed Mythra to a good design but leaves Prya in her ugly *** booty shorts

I mean; pretty much all the questionable parts of Pyra/Homura are mostly a issue if you see her from behind... which is impossible here xD.

 

[Idon]

I still can't tell what's going on with Pyra's oufit
Like, how does she put ANY of that on?

 

[UberMadman]

So... has there been any talk about how that whole "Cloud is not in story mode" rumor that this thread was all up in a tizzy about turned out to be completely false? Because it is:

Spoiler

From what I can tell, he appears to be in the World of Dark part.

 

[Eru13]

Speaking of waifus....

Twintelle as DLC yes/no?

Yes I know she's a spirit but humor me here.

If ARMS ever gets a rep in smash it better be her

 

[Pyra]

I still can't tell what's going on with Pyra's oufit
Like, how does she put ANY of that on?

Flex seal.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

So... has there been any talk about how that whole "Cloud is not in story mode" rumor that this thread was all up in a tizzy about turned out to be completely false? Because it is:

Spoiler

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From what I can tell, he appears to be in the World of Dark part.

You're a bit late there, dude. But better late than never.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Nintendo changed Mythra to a good design but leaves Prya in her ugly *** booty shorts

Honestly **** Nintendo that **** looks GOOD. Why can't Pyra get changed either? Hell, Mythra's character leads me to believe she's the one who'd sooner wear Pyra's outfit

Pyra's fit really is trash idk why anyone approved it to begin with

 

[Idon]

Yes.
We are aware Cloud is in World of Light.
Plese stop posting that mage.

 

[LetterO]

Speaking of waifus....

Twintelle as DLC yes/no?

Yes I know she's a spirit but humor me here.

Nah. I really don't get the hype behind her besides you-know-what. My personal favorite ARMS rep would be Helix.

 

[Pokechu]

Speaking of waifus....

Twintelle as DLC yes/no?

Yes I know she's a spirit but humor me here.

Only after Helix

 

[TMNTSSB4]

If they're gonna go through all that, why not just make her playable?

Bias assumptions I suppose

 

[Starbound]

I still can't tell what's going on with Pyra's oufit
Like, how does she put ANY of that on?

She's basically a god so she probably never takes it off.

 

[ClaTheBae]

Yes.
We are aware Cloud is in World of Light.
Plese stop posting that mage.

Did you hear that Cloud is in World of Light, and not only that, but also Pikachu Libre is actually a girl?

 

[Idon]

Flex seal.

THAT'S A LOT OF emotional DAMAGE.

 

[Nekoo]

Yes.
We are aware Cloud is in World of Light.
Plese stop posting that mage.

I want it every page for that time people went ******** and jumped on conclusion.
Again.
For the bazillion time.
every smash game.

 

[MainJPW]

Speaking of waifus....

Twintelle as DLC yes/no?

Yes I know she's a spirit but humor me here.

We have all these fist and swordfighters when we really need more hair fighters.

Twintelle, Dixie Kong, Shantae.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Yes.
We are aware Cloud is in World of Light.
Plese stop posting that mage.

Spoiler

Make me, boi. jk

 

[DarthEnderX]

So far the boss fights don't seem to be as fanservice-y as we originally thought...

Personally disappointed at the lack of

Spoiler

The other returning Brawl bosses, but also Mother Brain and Andross fights.

 

[monadoboy]

All this censoring is CERO's fault, not Ninty, even Sakurai was exasperated at them.

Sakurai: Precisely. Super Smash Bros. for Wii U almost didn’t make its scheduled release date because of ratings issues. We had to revise Palutena and Wonder Pink’s models over and over again.

Interviewer: All because you might be able to see up their skirts? Seriously?

Sakurai: We had Palutena wearing shorts and made the inside of Wonder Pink’s skirt too dark to see anything. Nevertheless, CERO told us the designs were “sexually provocative.” They were being ridiculous and frankly quite juvenile.

Interviewer: Some players take great sport in finding that sort of suggestive material even where it doesn’t exist—they see what they want to see. In that sense, it seems like an exercise in futility for ratings boards to determine what is and isn’t “sexual.”

Sakurai: Underwear is just a piece of fabric. If you’re more worried about something trivial like whether you can see some cloth than whether a game includes firearms, you clearly ought to get your priorities in order.

-https://www.sourcegaming.info/2015/09/18/cero-and-palutenas-censorship/

This is one of my favorite Sakurai quotes. Straight up burning them

 

[Pyra]

Tbh I don't particularly mind the overly fanservicey outfits in Xenoblade (I have more important things to concern myself about) but like there's a certain point when an outfit transcends fanservice and just looks annoying lol

I'm not above the whole anime waifu thing like people try to high horse about but I just can't take Pyra seriously looool

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Pyra's fit really is trash idk why anyone approved it to begin with

Hence why I said **** Nintendo

I'm always down for a brawl. Let's settle it in Smash.

But Brawl's servers are down

 

[UberMadman]

Yes.
We are aware Cloud is in World of Light.
Plese stop posting that mage.

That's why I asked.

 

[PSIGuy]

Huh, I actually like it, and I always feel iffy about censoring.
If only the guys who censored Xeno X did a good job like this instead of whatever that monstrosity was...

I'm sorry, what? X literally had 3 things altered in localization; the breast slider, the fundoshi and Lyn's baseoutfit. Meanwhile every other outfits is literally untouched.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

What about a major gaming icon?

Cause that's why Sakurai would like the idea, beyond a moveset itself. Nintendo choosing him because he has a Nintendo presence/to promote him is not hard to believe.

Remember, Sakurai absolutely has made it clear that having gaming icons is his main goal for 3rd parties. He can be convinced otherwise. Like how we got Bayonetta. She was not iconic when added, nowhere near the others. But something else got him to do it. Could it be Nintendo forcing his hand? Seeing cool combos? Who knows.

This is wrong too. He never said those guys were "first thoughts". What he said was these are just not options at all. "Sakurai: But on the other hand, if you think about who to add from Final Fantasy, it’s hard to come up with a choice that’s not Cloud. We could have used Terra or Bartz, protagonists in their own right, but I feel like there would be some people who wouldn’t know who those characters are. " Nowhere does this at all indicate they mattered.

"Sakurai: Exactly. And within the FF franchise, Cloud is without question the most popular choice. A number of people fixate on the fact his original game was never released on a Nintendo console, but if we were to limit our choices to characters who appeared on a Nintendo console, we’d end up with Bartz from FFV or the Onion Knight from FFIII—how would that work? Maybe they could change jobs or something… Actually, that would be kind of interesting (laughs)." Likewise with this. Again, not really saying they were important too. They were just notable enough to mention at best. Onion Knight is just a Dissidia/crossover character to represent all the classes. He's like Mr. Game & Watch, not a regular protagonist.

He never said "roots with Nintendo" either. That's poppycock. All he cared about was FF's gaming history in general. What he said is that if Cloud wasn't available, he'd have to just choose some Nintendo guys, then listed about 3 overall among some interviews. This is not an indication of anything other than they're recognizable names and that he does his research.

People need to stop acting like Cloud was anything more than a major gaming icon pick. He was the only real choice for Sakurai to begin with. He noted how the other two options were just bleh and unfeasible. Just that maybe ideas to use 'em could be fun. It's a basic developer thing to note that other characters are cool in their own right, yet still dismiss them.

That said, maybe you saw something I didn't. But the only interviews I saw only dispel the notion that it being on Nintendo mattered.

Another question...do you mean gaming icons as in relevant or in general?