Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Swamp Sensei]

Spoiler

All Third parties lost their costu- Oh right you blocked me

Even the Namco ones lost the costumes?

 

[Nekoo]

Spoiler

Okay, this is weird. There seems to have an appeal_snake_XXX text files for Brawls fighters? But not for new fighters.... Did anyone tried to do Codec Call with old fighters? Are they recycling all of Codec Call from Brawl?

 

[Luigi The President]

It just isn't clicking for me man.

They can spend the cash on getting Geno and Mallow Spirits but not bringing back the already existing Geno costume?

 

[Royalty1702]

Spoiler

There is no Piranha Plant spirit. Can we just call it a day and say spirit deconfirm characters?

 

[RyuhoFox]

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https://www.twitch.tv/goygoy2

I think it's this one

 

[ZelDan]

Isaac got a Mii fighter outfit. Hooray I guess.

 

[LetterO]

Spoiler: Returning THingy

WAIT SO ARE CODECS BACK AS A WHOLE OR JUST A MINOR CAMEO IN PALUTENAS GUIDANCE

 

[Luigi The President]

Spoiler

There is no Piranha Plant spirit. Can we just call it a day and say spirit deconfirm characters?

Not until my "PP was planned to be in base roster and as such did not get a Spirit because he was always planned to be in" theory is disproved

 

[Nekoo]

Even the Namco ones lost the costumes?

Spoiler

All of third parties lost their Mii Costume No Capcom, No SE, No Sega, No Namco

ALSO THERE IS STILL BRAWL CODEC TEXT FILES IS THIS NORMAL? ARE THEY JUST RECYCLING BRAWL'S CODEC?

 

[doomedtacox]

It just isn't clicking for me man.

They can spend the cash on getting Geno and Mallow Spirits but not bringing back the already existing Geno costume?

They probably just don't care enough about a few Mii costumes? They have their priorities.

 

[Shroob]

Spoiler: Returning THingy

WAIT SO ARE CODECS BACK AS A WHOLE OR JUST A MINOR CAMEO IN PALUTENAS GUIDANCE

The latter.

 

[StellerRJay]

apparently geno and chocobo may no longer be part of the mii costumes... interesting.

No Chocobo hat? I wonder why they would remove both of those outfits. It was the only representation Chocobo had. The poor guy...

 

[EnthusedPanda]

Has there been a DQ spirit? Sora?

 

[Arymle Roseanne]

Spoiler: Mii Costumes

From the looks of it, I think the Monster Hunter, Chocobo and Geno costumes are gone. I'm not sure on the first since it could've moved from the DLC batch, but the latter two I did not see at all.

Dixie Kong seems to have gotten one though.

Ugh.... I'm not sure what to think about this, I don't like Miis...

 

[LetterO]

The latter.

Spoiler: returning thingy

oh man i really got my hopes up

 

[Luigi The President]

They probably just don't care enough about a few Mii costumes? They have their priorities.

Yet cared enough to get both characters a Spirit? Pick one

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Has there been a DQ spirit? Sora?

Of course not. There isn't even any FF spirits other than Cloud

You'd think they could have made at least the summons into spirits

 

[Zinith]

Has there been a DQ spirit? Sora?

Spoiler

No. Only 4 SE Spirits. Geno, Mallow and 2 Clouds (no joke)

 

[Nekoo]

The latter.

Spoiler

No no Shroob. There is Text Files called Snake_Appeal_XXXX Which are all of the old Codec from Brawl. For whatever reasons. They might just recycle all of Brawl Codec

 

[doomedtacox]

Has there been a DQ spirit? Sora?

There is no DQ spirit or Sora.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Spoiler

No. Only 4 SE Spirits. Geno, Mallow and 2 Clouds (no joke)

I think you means 3 clouds

lol

 

[Shroob]

Spoiler

No no Shroob. There is Text Files called Snake_Appeal_XXXX Which are all of the old Codec from Brawl. For whatever reasons. They might just recycle all of Brawl Codec

I mean, yeah, but, those are about ten years old at this point. Even if they're brought back, they're not really exciting.

 

[doomedtacox]

Yet cared enough to get both characters a Spirit? Pick one

There are 1297 spirits. They aren't too special.

 

[LetterO]

Spoiler: DATAMINING

I LOVE THIS DATAMINER

 

[Luigi The President]

There are 1297 spirits. They aren't too special.

There's a ton of Mii Costumes too. They'd still have to approach Squenix and get the licensing for both characters. Pretty special like it or not.

 

[Aixy]

And so. We went through the Whole spirit list.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Shovel knight get multiple Spirits for like Plague Knight
Shantae have her and Risky boots
SE spirits are Cloud/Cloud-AC/Geno/Mallow
NOT A SINGLE ONE PIRANHA PLANT AT ALL WHEN BASICALLY EVERY MARIO STUFF IS IN
Pac-man have 4 spirit too.
Octoling are Spirits

He's now going through Mii Costume

Spoiler: Mii costume

All SE costume are gone.
Geno lost his Mii Costume
No Chocobo hat either
ISAAC GOT A MII COSTUME

Someone on the Reddit said they heard somewhere that Cloud was the very last Character they locked in for Ultimate. Perhaps he wasn't intended to be in, because they weren't sure they could get the rights to use him again? But at the last minute, they managed to pull it off for him and the stage? That would explain why there is no Square Representation in the game. Cloud wasn't supposed to be in it originally?

 

[osby]

That whole "stay off from Smash" thing didn't work well, but at least this place tags spoilers, so...

It's less "Nintendo doesn't give a **** about Mii Costumes" and more...

Keeping Cloud, Midgar and two music tracks must be quite a feat by itself.

 

[Nekoo]

Someone on the Reddit said they heard somewhere that Cloud was the very last Character they locked in for Ultimate. Perhaps he wasn't intended to be in, because they weren't sure they could get the rights to use him again? But at the last minute, they managed to pull it off for him and the stage? That would explain why there is no Square Representation in the game. Cloud wasn't supposed to be in it originally?

Spoiler

Stealth is full of ****. He said there is no SE spirit yet there is 4.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Hold on a sec....

Nekoo

ARE THERE ANY CROSS SPIRITS?!?

 

[LetterO]

Spoiler: DATAMINING

nevermind i dont like them anymore

 

[doomedtacox]

There's a ton of Mii Costumes too. They'd still have to approach Squenix and get the licensing for both characters. Pretty special like it or not.

Doesn't mean they're equally special. I think you're thinking way too hard into how they choose every spirit and Mii costume.

 

[Nekoo]

Hold on a sec....

Nekoo

ARE THERE ANY CROSS SPIRITS?!?

Not that I remember. No.

 

[Shroob]

Spoiler: DATAMINING

nevermind i dont like them anymore

They're your typical /v/ poster, what do you expect?

 

[Luigi The President]

Doesn't mean they're equally special. I think you're thinking way to hard into how they choose every spirit and Mii costume.

I don't know how more obvious it can get beyond "they would have to approach Squenix specifically to obtain the license and depict both characters" instead of just, y'know
Not doing that
They went through that trouble regardless

 

[doomedtacox]

Spoiler

Stealth is full of ****. He said there is no SE spirit yet there is 4.

Any King Boo spirit that you remember?

 

[GoeGoe]

I mean, I don't understand how I'm mocking you. I'm trying to get across the point that Isaac is not the only character with detail. Black Knight has much more for example. This is really making a theory out of nothing. Also, there's legit only 2 Golden Sun tracks. Also, Sakurai stated there were no cuts. Also, no, I don't think he ever even stated that-and it's also not relevant to this conversation.

If the cut was so early there'd be no model.

It's the way you word it.. anyway..
You're missing my point here. None of the ATs are actually detailed (how do I explain this.. textured properly, modeled with enough polys..etc.), and as they should they're all low poly models. Issac model had some details.. or let's call it extra polys that I didn't see from other fighters, yet he had none of the textures served for the likes of Springman for example. He's missing some gradients too. I think a 3D modler will word it better that I do.
Black Knight is an apparent low poly.
That's why I said it might've been a very early cut.
This is what I could find for now: https://nintendotoday.com/sakurai-on-fighting-characters-in-smash/

 

[Paperchampion23]

There are 1297 spirits. They aren't too special.

The only thing that's special to me is the prospect of possibly having close to that number in event matches. Obviously not all since some can be bought from the store, but we are going to get so many weird matches due to these spirits.

 

[Nekoo]

Any King Boo spirit that you remember?

King Boo spirit was in.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Not that I remember. No.

We have our first notable character missing from a last generation game.

Elma may be the main character, but Cross is the avatar.

Coincidence?!?

 

[KMDP]

Spoiler: DATAMINING

nevermind i dont like them anymore

What am I looking at here, exactly?