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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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I don't get why people think Spirits are deconfirmation, like, at all unless they want to be needlessly pessimistic

Literally Mewtwo and Lucas being trophies in Smash 4 and then DLC fighters disprove basically every argument there is against Spirits being disinformation
No. No it does not.

We have yet to see any legitimate case where a playable fighter can be equipped by a Spirit, something which actually affects gameplay unlike a Trophy, of the same character that isn't a variant.
The only Spirits of the playable fighters that aren't variants are Fighter Spirits, which cannot be equipped.
Well actually you see Luigi in a tennis outfit is in fact a different entity and Spirit from Luigi so you're dumb

(I'm not saying this is necessarily a bad point for #teamspiritsdeconfirm but...it sure is a funny one)
It's only funny because you're missing the key detail of it. Tennis Luigi is a variant. We don't have plain ol' Luigi as a Spirit himself. Except as a currently unseen Fighter Spirit, since playable fighters have those.
 

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No. No it does not.

We have yet to see any legitimate case where a playable fighter can be equipped by a Spirit, something which actually affects gameplay unlike a Trophy, of the same character that isn't a variant.
The only Spirits of the playable fighters that aren't variants are Fighter Spirits, which cannot be equipped.

It's only funny because you're missing the key detail of it. Tennis Luigi is a variant. We don't have plain ol' Luigi as a Spirit himself. Except as a currently unseen Fighter Spirit, since playable fighters have those.
No dude I completely understand the key detail it's just funny af objectively
Doesn't make it true or false just funny
 

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Seriously though, I've literally seen Sukapon end stocks at around 60% with no problem. I would not underestimate the guy...
Check at 1:31, and you will see an early kill by Sukapon on :ultganondorf:. Also, this was probably the best performance of any :ultridley: so far (good stuff, M2K). I could not also help but be confused on why :ultganondorf: could not act out of Flame Choke in the air, as I thought people said he could recover. Maybe that is if he gets the grab only perhaps.

This is the second time I've seen Sukapon delete somebody like they're nothing. Those kills are definitely early.
Yeah, early stocks like these...

I wasn't kidding.
 

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You mean Fighters and Battle? In that case yeah you’re right.
nah there's def a thing with sega using palm trees and blue skies in there old days alot since the company was founded in hawaii so that setting is usually in there games alot. Also casinos since they made pinballs and gambling machines b4 video games.

Tails workshop was probably always meant to have that look since fighters likely

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i didnt have of pic of tails workshop with blue skies but yea
 
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Y'know, as each day we get closer to Smash Ultimate's release, I can't help but feel more happy.

Yeah, the November Direct was pretty lackluster and honestly disappointing, but the pre-order opening, new info and livestreams we've been getting a hold of definitely renders what happened back earlier this month a bit useless when we're so close to the game.

We got so many stages remade, 75 fighters including Piranha Plant, tons of content and World of Light - this game already is looking to be a GOAT. Hell, we're STILL getting new info, like Crocodile Cacophony and Guile's Theme from Super Street Fighter II in the game!

But what else is better? The DLC we got for all of next year. Though, I definitely can't help but feel that even after possibly The Game Awards and Smash Ultimate's release, we'll still get leak talk. Some people are still on the leak train, and y'know what? I can't stop 'em.

You leak something? Hey man, you got responsibilities. You got mouths to feed. You got leaks. Hey, I got leaks too.
In fact, let's talk about leaks.

Because when that first character gets revealed...

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We out here with the WWE memes. Yes, the build up was worth it.
 

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In my opinion, Chrom was the last character added to the game.

- In his reveal and early footage, he looked a lot rougher than other characters
- He's still in Robin's Final Smash

Additionally, Piranha Plant was likely planned for the base game, but got pushed back for some reason. Yeah, he's DLC, but his amiibo is releasing in February, meaning that thing's been planned for at least a year.

That's just my 2 cents.
 

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I will admit that the series does have some cuties in it tho
Don't most characters in Layton's series look like porridge? Sure, she looks attractive now, but I guarantee you she will look like Yubaba once she hits 40.

No. No it does not.

We have yet to see any legitimate case where a playable fighter can be equipped by a Spirit, something which actually affects gameplay unlike a Trophy, of the same character that isn't a variant.
Spirits are an unknown cause at the moment, but Smash 4 introduced Mii Fighters and costumes. It was fair to assume that outfits of non-playable characters weren't death sentences for the actual characters until proven otherwise, which leads me to believe that Spirits (while conceptually new in some form) relies on the same stipulation as those costumes from days yore.

The only Spirits of the playable fighters that aren't variants are Fighter Spirits, which cannot be equipped.

It's only funny because you're missing the key detail of it. Tennis Luigi is a variant. We don't have plain ol' Luigi as a Spirit himself. Except as a currently unseen Fighter Spirit, since playable fighters have those.
I think the best case scenario is if some Spirits undergo a promotion of sorts, where specific ones regain the will to resurrect against all circumstances. It's stretching it, but it could work. The only reason this doesn't contradict my previous statement is because I firmly believe Spirits are lowkey deconfirmations, but I feel like there could be an exception (not the rule).
 

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Y'know, as each day we get closer to Smash Ultimate's release, I can't help but feel more happy.

Yeah, the November Direct was pretty lackluster and honestly disappointing, but the pre-order opening, new info and livestreams we've been getting a hold of definitely renders what happened back earlier this month a bit useless when we're so close to the game.

We got so many stages remade, 75 fighters including Piranha Plant, tons of content and World of Light - this game already is looking to be a GOAT. Hell, we're STILL getting new info, like Crocodile Cacophony and Guile's Theme from Super Street Fighter II in the game!

But what else is better? The DLC we got for all of next year. Though, I definitely can't help but feel that even after possibly The Game Awards and Smash Ultimate's release, we'll still get leak talk. Some people are still on the leak train, and y'know what? I can't stop 'em.

You leak something? Hey man, you got responsibilities. You got mouths to feed. You got leaks. Hey, I got leaks too.
In fact, let's talk about leaks.

Because when that first character gets revealed...

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We out here with the WWE memes. Yes, the build up was worth it.
I hope to ****ing god we'll be able to use this meme for real Tots my man
 

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Bruh, some of you guys take this **** far too seriously.

The jury is out on whether or not Spirits disconfirm characters, and while I realize fighter spirits are their own thing, I don’t quite get why any character that has a spirit...also couldn’t suddenly get a “fighter spirit” like any other fighter already on the roster. I just don’t really get why it has to be so heated.

Also, I find it ironic that there are shots being fired because some people are “Sakurai” while others who are firing those shots are literally doing the exact same thing. Come on dudes.

Finally, on Rayman and Shantae getting worlds in World of Light, I think it’s crap. I can make an inference that makes me think, “Why would Shantae, of all characters get a section in World of Light?” It doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t need to be Sakurai to think it’s a crock, but at the same time I really, really don’t give a ****.

Listen. The game comes out in like, 14 days. If you can’t chill, then find something else to do. This is a video game. We know the base roster. We know every stage. We have plenty of gameplay to watch to tide us over until release. I’ve speculated for some time now, and I don’t think i’ve ever found any reason to get as heated as some have this time.

Like any game that tests my patience, sometimes the best thing to do is take a deep breath and walk away for a little bit, and to come back later.
 
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nah there's def a thing with sega using palm trees and blue skies in there old days alot since the company was founded in hawaii so that setting is usually in there games alot. Also casinos since they made pinballs and gambling machines b4 video games.

Tails workshop was probably always meant to have that look since fighters likely

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i didnt have of pic of tails workshop with blue skies but yea
How did Sonic go from Palm Trees to Cube Trees?

Seriously, who thought that was a good idea in Lost World?
 

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Bruh, some of you guys take this **** far too seriously.

The jury is out on whether or not Spirits disconfirm characters, and while I realize fighter spirits are their own thing, I don’t quite get why any character that has a spirit...also couldn’t suddenly get a “fighter spirit” like any other fighter already on the roster. I just don’t really get why it has to be so heated.

Also, I find it ironic that there are shots being fired because some people are “Sakurai” while others who are firing those shots are literally doing the exact same thing. Come on dudes.

Finally, on Rayman and Shantae getting worlds in World of Light, I think it’s crap. I can make an inference that makes me think, “Why would Shantae, of all characters get a section in World of Light?” It doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t need to be Sakurai to think it’s a crock, but at the same time I really, really don’t give a ****.

Listen. The game comes out in like, 14 days. If you can’t chill, then find something else to do. This is a video game. We know the base roster. We know every stage. We have plenty of gameplay to watch to tide us over until release. I’ve speculated for some time now, and I don’t think i’ve ever found any reason to get as heated as some have this time.

Like any game that tests my patience, sometimes the best thing to do is take a deep breath and walk away for a little bit, and to come back later.
Listen to Teach' guys.

Even though I enjoyed the game, watching stuff about Let's Go still annoys me. So now I just ignore it and I feel like a weight has been lifted.
 

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In my opinion, Chrom was the last character added to the game.

- In his reveal and early footage, he looked a lot rougher than other characters
- He's still in Robin's Final Smash

Additionally, Piranha Plant was likely planned for the base game, but got pushed back for some reason. Yeah, he's DLC, but his amiibo is releasing in February, meaning that thing's been planned for at least a year.

That's just my 2 cents.
Last character completed, perhaps, but added? I honestly doubt it.

Mainly because of the sheer amount of differences between him and his base counterpart. Tons of his animations had to be straight up redone due to his and Roy's grip differences, he has an up special based off a completely different character, and he's one of only two echoes, alongside Ken, with a unique Final Smash (three if you count Dark Pit by virtue of Zelda and Sheik losing the Light Arrow).

Honestly, last added vs last completed is a pretty big difference. In Brawl, for example, Sonic was the last to be added, but Wolf was the last to be completed.
 
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I hope to ****ing god we'll be able to use this meme for real Tots my man
Don't worry.

We will.

Also, Nintendo Live is now live with more Smash Ultimate gameplay! Also Japanese schoolchildren are bludgeoning each other in Smash again!

 
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nah there's def a thing with sega using palm trees and blue skies in there old days alot since the company was founded in hawaii so that setting is usually in there games alot. Also casinos since they made pinballs and gambling machines b4 video games.

Tails workshop was probably always meant to have that look since fighters likely

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i didnt have of pic of tails workshop with blue skies but yea
Ah, I see. Even tho you can't see the sky the Battle workshop does look alot like the Fighters one and is also surrounded by palm trees so I got confused.

How did Sonic go from Palm Trees to Cube Trees?

Seriously, who thought that was a good idea in Lost World?
I was literally about to bring up the same thing.

Those block trees are also in Sonic Forces:



And...yeah. Palm Trees >>>.

 
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Bruh, some of you guys take this **** far too seriously.

The jury is out on whether or not Spirits disconfirm characters, and while I realize fighter spirits are their own thing, I don’t quite get why any character that has a spirit...also couldn’t suddenly get a “fighter spirit” like any other fighter already on the roster. I just don’t really get why it has to be so heated.

Also, I find it ironic that there are shots being fired because some people are “Sakurai” while others who are firing those shots are literally doing the exact same thing. Come on dudes.

Finally, on Rayman and Shantae getting worlds in World of Light, I think it’s crap. I can make an inference that makes me think, “Why would Shantae, of all characters get a section in World of Light?” It doesn’t make sense to me. I don’t need to be Sakurai to think it’s a crock, but at the same time I really, really don’t give a ****.

Listen. The game comes out in like, 14 days. If you can’t chill, then find something else to do. This is a video game. We know the base roster. We know every stage. We have plenty of gameplay to watch to tide us over until release. I’ve speculated for some time now, and I don’t think i’ve ever found any reason to get as heated as some have this time.

Like any game that tests my patience, sometimes the best thing to do is take a deep breath and walk away for a little bit, and to come back later.
Honestly I couldn't care less about who gets in at this point or which leakers are right or which theories end up being correct. I've got way more important **** to worry about in my life than Smash characters, I'm just here because it's fun to watch how things unfold sometimes.
 
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broke: geno was shown as a spirit, deconfirming him woke: spirits dont deconfirm characters bespoke: geno's fighter spirit was accidentally leaked
 

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The game itself is fine, but there's this mantra on Youtube that if you don't think the game is perfect you're not a real Pokemon fan or something. Sp i avoid videos about it cuz it's really annoying.
I personally think that it's the worst in the series, but it's for kids and casual players, so I can't be that upset.
It's like me disliking the Wiggles. I'm free to do it, but it was never meant for me to begin with
 

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Oh God, they just asked the crowd to say "3 2 1, Go!" every single match.
Please...
Don't do this to me.
 
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