Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Zinith]

Chocobo always counts when it comes to Final Fantasy. Chocobos are in every one of those games after all! Hmm...except the very first one I think.

Standard chocobos are absolutely amazing of course, but you know which specific one I'm always rooting for~

Say no more. I know exactly which one you're talking about...

Spoiler

He's a heavy Grappler who can also pocket items

 

[osby]

Um, putting in Zack Fair and Aerith would be some great ways to honor the dead, no? I'd still take an AT for both if I was only stuck with that.

So you are a man of culture as well. No really, those two are my favorite characters from FFVII. At least getting their Spirits for Zelda and Cloud would be amazing.

 

[RyuhoFox]

So you are a man of culture as well. No really, those two are my favorite characters from FFVII. At least getting their Spirits for Zelda and Cloud would be amazing.

In a related note Zack was just released this month for the Dissidia mobile game in the US

 

[StellerRJay]

Say no more. I know exactly which one you're talking about...

Spoiler

He's a heavy Grappler who can also pocket items

I'm starting to wonder where you're pulling out all these random yellow feathered birds from, haha.

Even with all these random avians on hand, I'm pretty sure you must have an even bigger dedicated folder somewhere filled with thousands of Yoshi related things in it. A folder named "The Great Yoshi Shrine"~

 

[beans]

So you are a man of culture as well. No really, those two are my favorite characters from FFVII. At least getting their Spirits for Zelda and Cloud would be amazing.

We should get a Sephiroth spirit for Palutena

 

[Deleted member]

You guys talking about FFVII and forgetting the one who got a game just for him.
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Devil Jesus

Alucard’s a manga character dude, he can’t get in.

 

[Zinith]

I'm starting to wonder where you're pulling out all these random yellow feathered birds from, haha.

Even with all these random avians on hand, I'm pretty sure you must have an even bigger dedicated folder somewhere filled with thousands of Yoshi related things in it. A folder named "The Great Yoshi Shrine"~

Spoiler

My whole computer is a Great Yoshi Shrine.

Thanks for the idea

 

[Deleted member]

I like Yoshi and the Chocobo (Chocobos?).

 

[StellerRJay]

Spoiler

My whole computer is a Great Yoshi Shrine.

Thanks for the idea

Silly me! I shouldn't have expected anything less. I wonder how green everything in view might be, heh. Either that or you went with the vibrant multi-colored route~

I like Yoshi and the Chocobo (Chocobos?).

Chocobo? Chocobos?...All the chocobos. Every last one of them <3

 

[KMDP]

Tifa and Barret seem like the coolest FFVII characters to add

You're not wrong.

Fun fact, Final Fantasy VII has a hidden affection value during the course of Disc 1. It tracks your relationship with the female characters based on your actions and choices in dialogues, leading up to a Date Scene at the Gold Saucer (an Amusement Park come Casino). Yuffie is harder than Tifa and Aerith, because she comes a lot later (and also starts with the lowest affection value of the three girls). Aerith technically starts with the highest affection value, but that's because by the time you meet her, if you did everything right, Tifa will be 1 point ahead of her, they give Aerith a head start so she can keep up.

However, you can also go on the date with Barret, who you get if you do and say very specific things (example: you can buy a flower from Aerith at one point, and when you return to Tifa's bar, you can give the flower to either Tifa or Marlene, Barret's Daughter).

It's all here.

There's actually some interesting things in here that inform Tifa and Aerith's characters; like the Don Corneo scene, if Tifa is chosen by Don Corneo, asking Aerith if she's okay will improve your relationship with Aerith, while showing concern for Tifa lowers Aerith's affection. Conversely, if Aertih is chosen and you ask Tifa if she's okay, that will lower Tifa's affection, but showing concern for Aerith improves your relationship with Tifa.

Getting Cloud picked by Don Corneo is the only way to use that situation to improve your relationship with Barret (by claiming to Don Corneo that Barret is your boyfriend).

It's a really complicated system that only amounts to one scene near the end of Disc 1.

We should get a Sephiroth spirit for Palutena
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Well, there is that one screenshot of Chrom...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

You're not wrong.

Fun fact, Final Fantasy VII has a hidden affection value during the course of Disc 1. It tracks your relationship with the female characters based on your actions and choices in dialogues, leading up to a Date Scene at the Gold Saucer (an Amusement Park come Casino). Yuffie is harder than Tifa and Aerith, because she comes a lot later (and also starts with the lowest affection value of the three girls). Aerith technically starts with the highest affection value, but that's because by the time you meet her, if you did everything right, Tifa will be 1 point ahead of her, they give Aerith a head start so she can keep up.

However, you can also go on the date with Barret, who you get if you do and say very specific things (example: you can buy a flower from Aerith at one point, and when you return to Tifa's bar, you can give the flower to either Tifa or Marlene, Barret's Daughter).

It's all here.

There's actually some interesting things in here that inform Tifa and Aerith's characters; like the Don Corneo scene, if Tifa is chosen by Don Corneo, asking Aerith if she's okay will improve your relationship with Aerith, while showing concern for Tifa lowers Aerith's affection. Conversely, if Aertih is chosen and you ask Tifa if she's okay, that will lower Tifa's affection, but showing concern for Aerith improves your relationship with Tifa.

Getting Cloud picked by Don Corneo is the only way to use that situation to improve your relationship with Barret (by claiming to Don Corneo that Barret is your boyfriend).

It's a really complicated system that only amounts to one scene near the end of Disc 1.

Well, there is that one screenshot of Chrom...

Oh no I just think Barret is neat because then we get a character who has a gun for an arm and yells ****

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

I don't like roy's english voice. he's trying too hard to mimic the japanese one

 

[KMDP]

Oh no I just think Barret is neat because then we get a character who has a gun for an arm and yells ****

Nah, I know that.

I just think the Date Mechanics of Final Fantasy VII are super interesting.

I was actually wrong, though. There is one other change having a high Affection rating has, though only with Tifa. Near the end of the game, everyone disbands before the final dungeon to get their affairs in order just in case they fail, leaving Cloud and Tifa alone. This leads to a scene with Cloud and Tifa camping together under the airship, this scene and it's implications change if Tifa's affection is higher than 50.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nah, I know that.

I just think the Date Mechanics of Final Fantasy VII are super interesting.

I was actually wrong, though. There is one other change having a high Affection rating has, though only with Tifa. Near the end of the game, everyone disbands before the final dungeon to get their affairs in order just in case they fail, leaving Cloud and Tifa alone. This leads to a scene with Cloud and Tifa camping together under the airship, this scene and it's implications change if Tifa's affection is higher than 50.

Does this mean Cloud joins the list of characters in Smash who have canonically ****ed?

 

[osby]

Does this mean Cloud joins the list of characters in Smash who have canonically ****ed?

List? Isn't that only Snake and Simon or something?

 

[beans]

Does this mean Cloud joins the list of characters in Smash who have canonically ****ed?

There is a list?

List? Isn't that only Snake and Simon or something?

Richter should have done the deed aswell since the bloodline goes on atleast until 1999 with asskicking Julius

 

[Dyllybirdy]

Spoiler

My whole computer is a Great Yoshi Shrine.

Thanks for the idea

Hey, so both of our computers, are covered in green...

 

[Cutie Gwen]

List? Isn't that only Snake and Simon or something?

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Added Cloud preemptively but most of these characters have children or descendants meaning they need to have ****ed. Peach is here because Mario Sunshine gave us the implications she and Bowser ****ed

 

[KMDP]

Does this mean Cloud joins the list of characters in Smash who have canonically ****ed?

Yes.

Yes, it does.

 

[Deleted member]

There is a list?


Richter should have done the deed aswell since the bloodline goes on atleast until 1999 with asskicking Julius

If my memory serves me correctly, it’s never directly stated if Richter has a direct descendant. In OoE, there are a lot of villagers who have Belmont blood, but I don’t think they’re direct descendants. Considering the events of SoTN, I think it’s likely the Belmont lineage only really re-emerged with Julius.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Does this mean Cloud joins the list of characters in Smash who have canonically ****ed?

I just got up... And this is the discussion we're having? Uh... okay...

 

[Iridium]

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Added Cloud preemptively but most of these characters have children or descendants meaning they need to have ****ed. Peach is here because Mario Sunshine gave us the implications she and Bowser ****ed

Doesn't have a son too? Maybe that's not completely canon.

...and I just checked, so this is it.

https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/d/dc/McCloud_Family_SF_Command.png


Marcus McCloud. But then again, he's only featured in an alternate ending if I remember correctly (Command), so eh.

 

[Deleted member]

Doesn't have a son too? Maybe that's not completely canon.

...and I just checked, so this is it.

https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/d/dc/McCloud_Family_SF_Command.png


Marcus McCloud. But then again, he's only featured in an alternate ending if I remember correctly (Command), so eh.

Going to have to arrest you for putting the idea of Fox having sex into my head.

 

[beans]

/
Added Cloud preemptively but most of these characters have children or descendants meaning they need to have ****ed. Peach is here because Mario Sunshine gave us the implications she and Bowser ****ed

I dunno about the Links and Zelda/Sheik. Are they post-laid? Has the interation of the character done it before or you can be destined to do it and get in the list that way?

Going to have to arrest you for putting the idea of Fox having sex into my head.

I dunno, maybe they got Falco in a white Airwing and got the baby that way.

If my memory serves me correctly, it’s never directly stated if Richter has a direct descendant. In OoE, there are a lot of villagers who have Belmont blood, but I don’t think they’re direct descendants. Considering the events of SoTN, I think it’s likely the Belmont lineage only really re-emerged with Julius.

The Belmont went into hiding for some time, due to Nostradamus having a prophecy about the next Belmont to don the whip in 1999 would end Dracula once and for all. They just disappeared, so I doubt that village had any "full" Belmont.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Doesn't have a son too? Maybe that's not completely canon.

...and I just checked, so this is it.

https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/d/dc/McCloud_Family_SF_Command.png


Marcus McCloud. But then again, he's only featured in an alternate ending if I remember correctly (Command), so eh.

Not a Star Fox fan so this is the first for me. If the implications are there it counts, which is why Richter and Ike are there, Priam may not necessarily be a direct descendant of Ike but rather Mist or something, as Marth is the descendant of a legendary hero but is his great great x20 grandNEPHEW and as previously stated, we have never seen a direct descendant of Richter

 

[KMDP]

Doesn't have a son too? Maybe that's not completely canon.

...and I just checked, so this is it.

https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/d/dc/McCloud_Family_SF_Command.png


Marcus McCloud. But then again, he's only featured in an alternate ending if I remember correctly (Command), so eh.

Fox and Cloud are the characters who may or may not have ****ed depending on how you play their games.

I dunno about the Links and Zelda/Sheik. Are they post-laid? Has the interation of the character done it before or you can be destined to do it and get in the list that way?

Well, Young Link has to have had kids, because Twilight Princess Link is his direct descendant.

Same with Toon Link, Spirit Tracks Link is his descendant.

As for BOTW Link, that's actually unknown (but the Link in 64/Melee is the same Link as Young Link and Smash 4 Link is the Skyward Sword Link, who also has descendants). TP Link is also unknown.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

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Added Cloud preemptively but most of these characters have children or descendants meaning they need to have ****ed. Peach is here because Mario Sunshine gave us the implications she and Bowser ****ed

This discussion is weird as heck but anyway, Pac-Man has a family too.

The funny thing is that he was supposed to be called Puck-Man but they changed it to Pac-Man in fear that with said name, people would have vandalized the game's stand at the arcades by modifying the first letter (or at least, that's the version of the story I know).

 

[Deleted member]

Oh and Pacman Jr. is a thing so Pac-man probabaly ****ed as well.

 

[KMDP]

/
Added Cloud preemptively but most of these characters have children or descendants meaning they need to have ****ed. Peach is here because Mario Sunshine gave us the implications she and Bowser ****ed

Doesn't have a son too? Maybe that's not completely canon.

...and I just checked, so this is it.

https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/d/dc/McCloud_Family_SF_Command.png


Marcus McCloud. But then again, he's only featured in an alternate ending if I remember correctly (Command), so eh.

This discussion is weird as heck but anyway, Pac-Man has a family too.

The funny thing is that he was supposed to be called Puck-Man but they changed it to Pac-Man in fear that with said name, people would have vandalized the game's stand at the arcades by modifying the first letter (or at least, that's the version of the story I know).

Okay, the list is as follows then:

Definitely:
Player Actions Dependant: (also all the Pokémon except Pichu and Mewtwo, I guess)
Unknown, but worth noting:

 

[osby]

It's nice that we're finally perfectly on-topic.

Oh and Pacman Jr. is a thing so Pac-man probabaly ****ed as well.

Bold of you to assume PAC-MAN reproduces sexually. By the way, does count?

 

[Deleted member]

Ganondorf is also implied due to how gerudo lineage works in canon, and the fact that the ganon in FSA is stated to be a descendant/reincarnation of the Ganon from OoT

 

[KMDP]

It's nice that we're finally perfectly on-topic.
Bold of you to assume PAC-MAN reproduces sexually. By the way, does count?

I mean if you count Asexual Reproduction then could also count...

As for ... it depends on who the Mii is representing.

(Is surprised isn't on "the list")

 

[Iridium]

This discussion is weird as heck but anyway, Pac-Man has a family too.

The funny thing is that he was supposed to be called Puck-Man but they changed it to Pac-Man in fear that with said name, people would have vandalized the game's stand at the arcades by modifying the first letter (or at least, that's the version of the story I know).

You know, I remembered that name for some reason, so I checked it out. Yeah, he was called that in Japan, but soon had his name changed when arriving at the US. I almost wonder who first thought vandals would do that anyway...

 

[WaddleMatt]

Okay, the list is as follows then:

Definitely:
Player Actions Dependant: (also all the Pokémon except Pichu and Mewtwo, I guess)
Unknown, but worth noting:

How are Brawl and Smash 4 Link different???

 

[beans]

Ganondorf is also implied due to how gerudo lineage works in canon, and the fact that the ganon in FSA is stated to be a descendant/reincarnation of the Ganon from OoT

Man Zelda lore is nuts. Why the heck the gerudo have only one male in each god-knows-how-many-years?
Also, really bad luck that that one male is the reincarnation of Satan

 

[Iridium]

You know, I remembered that name for some reason, so I checked it out. Yeah, he was called that in Japan, but soon had his name changed when arriving at the US. I almost wonder who first thought vandals would do that anyway...

And here's actual proof, in a strange commercial (Japan...).

 

[KMDP]

How are Brawl and Smash 4 Link different???

I was using Smash 4 Link as a stand-in for Skyward Sword Link; mainly because while Brawl Link is definitely Twilight Princess Link, Smash 4 Link is kind of a hybrid of TP and SS).

 

[Deleted member]

Tax-Man is my favourite character in gaming.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Man Zelda lore is nuts. Why the heck the gerudo have only one male in each god-knows-how-many-years?
Also, really bad luck that that one male is the reincarnation of Satan

It's canon that the Gerudo cross-breed with Hylians iirc, a Sheikah stone in OoT near the temple of time says it

Ganondorf is also implied due to how gerudo lineage works in canon, and the fact that the ganon in FSA is stated to be a descendant/reincarnation of the Ganon from OoT

That's a bit iffy due to how Demise works as I believe Demise's curse extends beyond Ganondorf and means EVERY Zelda villain was because of the curse

I mean if you count Asexual Reproduction then could also count...

As for ... it depends on who the Mii is representing.

(Is surprised isn't on "the list")

Bayonetta's only a flirt. Sure, she's a lesbian flirt with a girlfriend but we don't know to what extent that goes

 

[RamOne]

It's never stated if he actually is or not, but F-Zero: Maximum Velocity has a character who claims to be 's son.