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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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Hi guys, did i miss anything important?

I wasnt here during weekend
TotsBS is changing personas!
We got a new meme.
And people learnt that women have boobies. Female representation has increased by 95% thanks to Katalina.

Oh! And I got a new switch.
 

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is sugiyama the reason why dq titles take an eternity to get localized (if they even get localized?) cuz if he is, then **** him and the horse he rode in on.
Sugiyama is a colossal piece of **** and the game industry will be better off when he dies
 

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some lucky mother-****** gets their grubby hands on a copy of Smash Ultimate that broke the street date.
A more believable tal than "I stole a Switch with Smash' Demo on it from E3 and data-mined it, but the Switch bricked itself so I can't show you the proof"
 

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is sugiyama the reason why dq titles take an eternity to get localized (if they even get localized?) cuz if he is, then **** him and the horse he rode in on.
He's the reason they frequently have to remake the entire soundtrack in Midi for localized releases to appease him. If we're getting a DQ rep, expect our music to be butchered while Japan gets the good orchestral stuff.
 

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He's the reason they frequently have to remake the entire soundtrack in Midi for localized releases to appease him. If we're getting a DQ rep, expect our music to be butchered while Japan gets the good orchestral stuff.
I don't actually think that's even possible.


Everyone over on ResetEra says that this Smash is built on a single version of the game, so like, when they patch out the you know what on launch date, that means all regions will get the same patch as well.
 

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Oh one more thing.
Just to make sure, tag my name PsySmasher PsySmasher or quote me in the post if you're putting in for my Granblue character profile pic suggestion.
Cuz I'm lazy and I ain't looking through 100 pages of posts.
 

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I've never even heard of Sugiyama until now, and he already sounds like a colossal asshole. Is there any reason Square can't just get rid of him?
 

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I don't actually think that's even possible.


Everyone over on ResetEra says that this Smash is built on a single version of the game, so like, when they patch out the you know what on launch date, that means all regions will get the same patch as well.
I hope so. Regional quirks like us not getting Ashley's Theme Ver 2. for some reason have bugged Smash for a long time.

I've never even heard of Sugiyama until now, and he already sounds like a colossal *******. Is there any reason Square can't just get rid of him?
He's good at what he does. He's so iconic to the franchise it'd be like Final Fantasy getting rid of Uematsu or Shimomura.
 
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I've never even heard of Sugiyama until now, and he already sounds like a colossal *******. Is there any reason Square can't just get rid of him?
I think he 'owns' the rights to the Dragon Quest music or some ****.


Same reason why the music in Smash for FF is soo ****y.
 

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I hope so. Regional quirks like us not getting Ashley's Theme Ver 2. for some reason have bugged Smash for a long time.


He's good at what he does. He's so iconic to the franchise it'd be like Final Fantasy getting rid of Uematsu or Shimomura.
Uematsu hasn't been composer for FF since the 90s
 
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I've never even heard of Sugiyama until now, and he already sounds like a colossal *******. Is there any reason Square can't just get rid of him?
With how much of a stranglehold he has on the Dragon Quest IP and even legalities and record labels in between, the only way they can really "get rid" of Sugiyama is if he passes away. It's an unfortunate situation all around, and with how much he's done for the Dragon Quest series, Square really can't do much of anything.
 
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That's one of the main reasons why I'm not expecting the supposed SE rep to be Dragon Quest, at all.

If this game really is "One game, one version" like people are saying, they can't 'censor' our music, meaning all regions would have to have the MIDI versions, and I doubt he would want GLORIOUS NIPPON to not have it, while letting us FILTHY AMERICANS have it as well.
 

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That's one of the main reasons why I'm not expecting the supposed SE rep to be Dragon Quest, at all.

If this game really is "One game, one version" like people are saying, they can't 'censor' our music, meaning all regions would have to have the MIDI versions, and I doubt he would want GLORIOUS NIPPON to not have it, while letting us FILTHY AMERICANS have it as well.
God are those really his views?
I was thinking about maybe getting a dragon quest game, but I don't want to support this crap (also, I don't want butchered music)
 

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Sure, but he still returns every so often for things like FF14's main themes.
As a freelancer, meaning they bring him in. Both Square and Nobiyo both acknowledge that the talent pool has grown enough that he does not to be the composer, but DQ for whatever reason must always have Sugiyama, even though aside from the victory jingle, Overture and the menu SFX, the music is one of the weakest parts of DQ as a series
 

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Ver. 2 has been confirmed to be in the English version already if you didn't know.
Wikipedia has a section on his 'political controversies' if you want even more of an insight into him. He's an... interesting sort. And I'm not just talking about his hyper xenophobia.

That's one of the main reasons why I'm not expecting the supposed SE rep to be Dragon Quest, at all.

If this game really is "One game, one version" like people are saying, they can't 'censor' our music, meaning all regions would have to have the MIDI versions, and I doubt he would want GLORIOUS NIPPON to not have it, while letting us FILTHY AMERICANS have it as well.
With how stupidly tight a hold SE is keeping over their big franchises like FF(7) in Smash, I'm starting to think that being a big franchise doesn't necessarily equate to big chances in Smash. You get a well-known character in, sure, but at what excruciating legal cost?
 

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God are those really his views?
I was thinking about maybe getting a dragon quest game, but I don't want to support this crap (also, I don't want butchered music)
No, those are making him look like a bettr person than he is. He's extremely racist, a warcrime denier and has openly spouted about how LGBT people are the reason for DECLINING BIRTHRATES, among other really questionable things. Quite seriously, most companies in the west would have dropped him and done legal battles for the music at this point
 

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God are those really his views?
I was thinking about maybe getting a dragon quest game, but I don't want to support this crap (also, I don't want butchered music)
Pretty much.

IIRC he's also a war denier of "Japan did nothing wrong" in regards to Japan against China and Korea in WW2.
 
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This girl gives me a Elesis vibe, i like her.

This is Granblue right?
Yeah, she's Granblue.

She's one of the only ones I know because.....art....
I will say no more on the matter other than it's not exactly what you may think (i.e. it's not hentai; if it was, I'd straight up say so :V).
 

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With how stupidly tight a hold SE is keeping over their big franchises like FF(7) in Smash, I'm starting to think that being a big franchise doesn't necessarily equate to big chances in Smash. You get a well-known character in, sure, but at what excruciating legal cost?
This is honestly a reason I'd like GBF in Smash, since Cygames made sure to have Nobiyo let them keep rights to the music he composed for the game iirc, and if he didn't, then Narita is absolutely willing to let them use his tracks, or even compose something from scratch
 

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No, those are making him look like a bettr person than he is. He's extremely racist, a warcrime denier and has openly spouted about how LGBT people are the reason for DECLINING BIRTHRATES, among other really questionable things. Quite seriously, most companies in the west would have dropped him and done legal battles for the music at this point
There's already rumors that Dragon Quest XI might be "snubbed" at the VGAs because of Sugiyama's controversy this year, and honestly I can't blame them at all. At this point he might be becoming a liability, especially when Dragon Quest badly needs to do better in the western market.
 

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This is honestly a reason I'd like GBF in Smash, since Cygames made sure to have Nobiyo let them keep rights to the music he composed for the game iirc, and if he didn't, then Narita is absolutely willing to let them use his tracks, or even compose something from scratch
I can't see Cygames being anything but cooperative with Smash anyway. Granblue does cross-promotion with something new every five minutes, and they're pretty good at it by now.
 

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And this is why I'm completely on board with literally anything but DQ being our supposed Square rep.


Don't get me wrong, I like the franchise, but I just don't see it happening.
 

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And this is why I'm completely on board with literally anything but DQ being our supposed Square rep.


Don't get me wrong, I like the franchise, but I just don't see it happening.
I mean, there are enough copycats in the industry who can mimic his style enough, and covers are legally protected in Japan, so long as it is distinct from the original.
 
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And this is why I'm completely on board with literally anything but DQ being our supposed Square rep.


Don't get me wrong, I like the franchise, but I just don't see it happening.
Which is why I'm wondering the whole "Square rep" thing in the first place, because I think we've found every character to have major problems in one way or another.
 

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Which is why I'm wondering the whole "Square rep" thing in the first place, because I think we've found every character to have major problems in one way or another.
Well every big character.
Just gonna put this here...
 
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Well every big character.
Just gonna put this here...
I wouldn't mind, but not even Japan knows not the character, but not even the franchise. Those sales numbers for the re-release on Switch over there were... Yeah.
 
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I can't see Cygames being anything but cooperative with Smash anyway. Granblue does cross-promotion with something new every five minutes, and they're pretty good at it by now.
.....wait.
I smell cross-promotion opportunity.
Kalatina in Smash and some Smash-based characters like Mario, Link, etc. as Event characters in GBF.
 
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