Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[RyuhoFox]

Too many clones with no unique movesets

No Modes except for the Smash Tour Clone (World Of Light) And the Master Orders clone (Spirits)

The DLC Roster not consisting of any good characters we actually wanted (Vergeben and his friend keep saying were Steve and Marth echo number 543)

The game being rushed for a Christmas release (We all know how rare a good rushed out game for the Holiday season is, just look at Sonic 06)

Nothing in the game to unlock (Not even trophies or new stages)

Codecs and other wonderful easter eggs being forever gone

A worthless plant you have to pay 15 or 20 dollars for!!!!!!!!!!!

The online being terrible (As confirmed by Sakurai himself in the november direct)

Character's we wanted in the roster making short assist ttophy cameos

Too many Mario, Pokemon, And Anime (Fire) Waifu Emblem (I guess those are the only franchises Nintendo cares about now) characters taking up half the roster!!!!!!!!!!

So there you go! The reason's why I think this game will be a major let down!!!!!!!

I like how pretty much everything in this post is a complete bullcrap lie.

 

[Deleted member]

We live in a society where gamers are targeted. I know this because I have personal experience with it. When I was a young boy, a man named Masahiro Sakurai asked me who I wanted in Super Smash Bros. Melee. I told him Isaac, and then he slapped me and stompes me while I was on the ground before killing my parents and stealing my dog

^^^^literally how some people sound when they complain about a character not being in

 

[Plumstar]

Too many clones with no unique movesets

No Modes except for the Smash Tour Clone (World Of Light) And the Master Orders clone (Spirits)

The DLC Roster not consisting of any good characters we actually wanted (Vergeben and his friend keep saying were Steve and Marth echo number 543)

The game being rushed for a Christmas release (We all know how rare a good rushed out game for the Holiday season is, just look at Sonic 06)

Nothing in the game to unlock (Not even trophies or new stages)

Codecs and other wonderful easter eggs being forever gone

A worthless plant you have to pay 15 or 20 dollars for!!!!!!!!!!!

The online being terrible (As confirmed by Sakurai himself in the november direct)

Character's we wanted in the roster making short assist ttophy cameos

Too many Mario, Pokemon, And Anime (Fire) Waifu Emblem (I guess those are the only franchises Nintendo cares about now) characters taking up half the roster!!!!!!!!!!

So there you go! The reason's why I think this game will be a major let down!!!!!!!

"Too many clones with no unique movesets"
uuh yeah, that's why they're called echo fighters...it's a way to bring requested characters to the roster like Daisy and Chrom.

"No Modes except for the Smash Tour Clone (World Of Light) And the Master Orders clone (Spirits)"
The thing about spirits mode is that you get to fight characters that aren't really part of the roster, and I honestly like that idea. You get to play against the fighter that's similar to the spirit and fight on the stages with items that are unique to them. There are about 1000 spirits or even more, imagine how many battles you'll do. And for World of Light, there's so much things to do and exploration in that mode, it is an adventure mode after all. I suggest you watch Gamexplain's World of Light analysis since there's a lot of things hidden from the trailer, I watched it myself and I am even more hyped to play it.

"Character's we wanted in the roster making short assist ttophy cameos"
I'd rather those characters have some kind of appearance in the game than none at all. It's one of the reasons why I'm scared my most wanted newcomer won't get any acknowledgement again if he doesn't make it to DLC. The fighters aren't the only thing to make the game special, lets not forget Smash is a celebration for gaming so it would make sense to bring as much gaming icons as possible, whether old or new, to get some representation via spirits and assist trophies. While I'm upset Isaac is an assist trophy, I'm glad he's in the game in some form and being noticed by Sakurai himself, so that's a good thing.

I understand these are your opinions, but I just wanted to point out some things that others don't notice. Sakurai worked really hard in this game just for us, and I'm excited to see hidden things he left us to find out when the game releases. We don't deserve this man.

 

[Shadowwolflink]

You know, I'm disappointed with that last Direct and with some aspects of the game, like the lack of trophies and lack of extra single player modes, but you would have to be insane to think this game should be skipped.

 

[MSmariosonic]

i mean

dynasty warriors can do it pretty reliably

Dynasty Warriors has mostly original characters tho

Smash is a different beast all together

Writing a full on story mode for a crossover fighting game is not that easy as proven by MvC

 

[Wyoming]

Too many clones with no unique movesets

No Modes except for the Smash Tour Clone (World Of Light) And the Master Orders clone (Spirits)

The DLC Roster not consisting of any good characters we actually wanted (Vergeben and his friend keep saying were Steve and Marth echo number 543)

The game being rushed for a Christmas release (We all know how rare a good rushed out game for the Holiday season is, just look at Sonic 06)

Nothing in the game to unlock (Not even trophies or new stages)

Codecs and other wonderful easter eggs being forever gone

A worthless plant you have to pay 15 or 20 dollars for!!!!!!!!!!!

The online being terrible (As confirmed by Sakurai himself in the november direct)

Character's we wanted in the roster making short assist ttophy cameos

Too many Mario, Pokemon, And Anime (Fire) Waifu Emblem (I guess those are the only franchises Nintendo cares about now) characters taking up half the roster!!!!!!!!!!

So there you go! The reason's why I think this game will be a major let down!!!!!!!

World of Light and Smash Tour aren't even close to being the same. It doesn't even have proper board game mechanics before you screech that at me.
DLC is mere speculation at this point. We don't know who will be in till it's seen.
Rushed? Need evidence. It's been in development for 2.5-3 years.
We don't know if the codecs are elsewhere or still on the older stages in the full game.
It won't be that expensive and most people will get it for free.
The online is actually much better when you actually digest the facts and understand them rather than fearmongering like some people are.
K. Rool, Ridley, cut vets, Simon? All bigger than whoever we didn't get.
Pokemon and Mario are their flag ship series.

 

[Bionichute]

Dynasty Warriors has mostly original characters tho

Smash is a different beast all together

Writing a full on story mode for a crossover fighting game is not that easy as proven by MvC

by ocs do you mean? real people that actually existed???

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

yes its called star allies' last patch

But kirby isnt beautiful

 

[MSmariosonic]

by ocs do you mean? real people that actually existed???

yes

 

[Bionichute]

But kirby isnt beautiful

wrong

 

[Iridium]

Oh hey, another commercial. Good to still see strong advertisement.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

We live in a society where gamers are targeted. I know this because I have personal experience with it. When I was a young boy, a man named Masahiro Sakurai asked me who I wanted in Super Smash Bros. Melee. I told him Isaac, and then he slapped me and stompes me while I was on the ground before killing my parents and stealing my dog

^^^^literally how some people sound when they complain about a character not being in

The real Grinch all along was Sakurai.

Mean ole man...

Only doing 75 fighters then stopping.

We all know he should've kept going until even the McRib was a fighter.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

wrong

*looks around* But Thats not Persona 3, 4 and 5s protag, you silly goose

 

[CroonerMike]

Too many clones with no unique movesets

No Modes except for the Smash Tour Clone (World Of Light) And the Master Orders clone (Spirits)

The DLC Roster not consisting of any good characters we actually wanted (Vergeben and his friend keep saying were Steve and Marth echo number 543)

The game being rushed for a Christmas release (We all know how rare a good rushed out game for the Holiday season is, just look at Sonic 06)

Nothing in the game to unlock (Not even trophies or new stages)

Codecs and other wonderful easter eggs being forever gone

A worthless plant you have to pay 15 or 20 dollars for!!!!!!!!!!!

The online being terrible (As confirmed by Sakurai himself in the november direct)

Character's we wanted in the roster making short assist ttophy cameos

Too many Mario, Pokemon, And Anime (Fire) Waifu Emblem (I guess those are the only franchises Nintendo cares about now) characters taking up half the roster!!!!!!!!!!

So there you go! The reason's why I think this game will be a major let down!!!!!!!

Dude, I’m not saying you can’t be salty about the game. But you come in here everyday and complain. I get your salt, I really do, but you’ve said it enough. You can just leave now.

 

[Gks1]

Always some people are disgusted with all game... I think that they are happy saying these things, they dont play but write in forums is free.

 

[Bionichute]

*looks around* But Thats not Persona 3, 4 and 5s protag, you silly goose

yeah, thats exactly my point

 

[Luigi The President]

Dude, I’m not saying you can’t be salty about the game. But you come in here everyday and complain. I get your salt, I really do, but you’ve said it enough. You can just leave now.

And who the hell would come in here so constantly and usually just post negative comments?
(love u Mike)

 

[John Dylan Smith]

You know, I'm disappointed with that last Direct and with some aspects of the game, like the lack of trophies and lack of extra single player modes, but you would have to be insane to think this game should be skipped.

Why even play the game????? What's making you all want to go out and spend a truck load of money on something that removed so many good/awesome/wonderful things about the game????????

 

[Paperchampion23]

All in gonna say is how can someone even be mad at WoL and Spirits? It's literally hundreds of Melee-type event matches. Every game I wished they'd up the number of events, especially since the roster has tripled since then. WoL and spirits are literally a dream come true, on top of an ~80 character roster after dlc

 

[SAMation]

Alright but as far as single player content goes we should agree that this is gonna have the best classic mode in smash. The individual experience for each character is so cool, seeing Ryus classic mode be FD stamina mode against other street-fighter-like characters is really cool and different. Anyone forseeing a Samus fight against K Rool to represent Kraid?

 

[Idon]

If I'm gonna be honest, I can relate to how you feel, but dude, you're being way too obnoxious about it all.
Write an angry letter, crumple it up, and throw it in a trashcan or something.

 

[Bionichute]

Why even play the game????? What's making you all want to go out and spend a truck load of money on something that removed so many good/awesome/wonderful things about the game????????

people will buy anything if its got a recognizable brand name on it

 

[Luigi The President]

Why even play the game????? What's making you all want to go out and spend a truck load of money on something that removed so many good/awesome/wonderful things about the game????????

I know this is bait but it's distracting me from Geno

Please counter my post I want to continue

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Why even play the game????? What's making you all want to go out and spend a truck load of money on something that removed so many good/awesome/wonderful things about the game????????

Because the game is still great


Here, let's calm things down a bit...

After possibly the Square Rep at the Game awards, who's gonna be the next DLC character and when will they be announced?

 

[T3Z3R1]

Guys please just ignore the troll.

He's clearly baiting you on not buying ultimate.

 

[Luigi The President]

Here, let's calm things down a bit...

After possibly the Square Rep at the Game awards, who's gonna be the next DLC character and when will they be announced?

Minecraft Steve probably in a Direct

 

[Kingslime304]

Y'know, it's kind of funny how this thread got 1/180 quite quickly.

 

[Digital Hazard]

How do we know she isn’t the protagonist? We barely know anything about the game.

Looking back at the trailer for Three Houses, because:
A character shown to look like a typical blue haired FE Lord, Edelgard herself asking to be given orders when in combat and also from said blue haired character shown to be the one to be in control of the player when outside of combat like Corrin is in Fates.

Okay, it's not outright spelled out he's the MC, but as briefly as he appeared in, all hints towards him being so.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Apprantly shadows spirit can evolve but i have never seen an official super shadow render unless sega was hiding one

I dont think burning blaze and super silver have one either but idk if there gonna even have a spirit evolution

 

[Bionichute]

Apprantly shadows spirit can evolve but i have never seen an official super shadow render unless sega was hiding one

I dont think burning blaze and super silver have one either but idk if there gonna even have a spirit evolution

Shadow (With Gun)

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

Apprantly shadows spirit can evolve but i have never seen an official super shadow render unless sega was hiding one

I dont think burning blaze and super silver have one either but idk if there gonna even have a spirit evolution

It's gonna be Shadow with a gun
Edit: 'd

 

[Luigi The President]

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****ing obviously

 

[T3Z3R1]

Apprantly shadows spirit can evolve but i have never seen an official super shadow render unless sega was hiding one

I dont think burning blaze and super silver have one either but idk if there gonna even have a spirit evolution

Lemme guess, does he evolve into this?

If yes, and then we may have edgy spirit on our hands boi.

 

[RyuhoFox]

Why even play the game????? What's making you all want to go out and spend a truck load of money on something that removed so many good/awesome/wonderful things about the game????????

It's....$60. It's not super expensive. Aside from that we like what we see of the game and it's likely we are going to get many hours of fun out of it. We also don't feel the need to screech at others online about nonsensical bullcrap we made up like you seemingly can't stop doing.
If you don't like or want the game that is one thing but you have done nothing but whine and cry over things you are flat out wrong about and yell at others here demanding answers to how people can like something you don't.

 

[John Dylan Smith]

Minecraft Steve probably in a Direct

Sora would essentially be a saving grace for this game if he was announced (As unlikely as it sounds)!!!!!!!

 

[Dee Dude]

How do you guys feel about 's new voice(s) this time around?
Also @KarneraMythos , I absolutely love your profile pic. Makes me wish we get another Mega Man rep as DLC.

It’s still gonna take time getting used to, I loved Adkins voice in Brawl & 4 and I’ll miss it deeply.

That said, people said Chun is a better voice actor so I might have some faith.

 

[Luigi The President]

Sora would essentially be a saving grace for this game if he was announced (As unlikely as it sounds)!!!!!!!

BTW the Piranha Plant is 5 dollars so you were objectively wrong lol!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

EDIT: Forgot some exclamations

 

[Pyr]

The **** is in Ohio's water, I swear.

Edit: It's a joke. Relax.

 

[praline]

Looking back at the trailer for Three Houses, because:
A character shown to look like a typical blue haired FE Lord, Edelgard herself asking to be given orders when in combat and also from said blue haired character shown to be the one to be in control of the player when outside of combat like Corrin is in Fates.

Okay, it's not outright spelled out he's the MC, but as briefly as he appeared in, all hints towards him being so.

I really hope he’s not cause I don’t really like his design and the fact that he’s another blue haired swordsman.

 

[Bionichute]

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