Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[osby]

Eventually, nobody will even be able to speak at all lest you trigger the person you're talking to.

Depends on where you live, really.

 

[MyDude213]

Of course Sora makes more sense but with Kingdom Hearts being a Playstation exclusive I'm not sure the'd want to do that. So while it would have more chances if it came out a couple of years earlier I would cry of joy if Octopath got in. And I would jump around if there were at least some spirits.

Kingdom Hearts *used* to be a Sony exclusive but soon like after the first game half the series was released exclusively first on Nintendo platforms for many years and only recently got re-released in bundles for the PS4. KH3 is the newest game and is coming to the Xbox as well as the PS4 and has a possibility of getting a Switch port, KH is a third party IP not a first party.

 

[KMDP]

Oi.

You calling SMT stupid?

I meant my signature.

Sephiroth's in there.

 

[Idon]

*looks at signature*

Yeah, that's true.

Hey man, if you wanna be hit with a sword the entire length of final destination, you do you.

But count me oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooout

 

[ClaTheBae]

As unlikely as it is, Persona 5 representation in smash would be amazing purely for the music and stage that would come with it.

 

[Eremitaviola]

Kingdom Hearts has games on Nintendo consoles.

Oh, right I forgot about DDD. Haven't played it so I don't really count it much. There are also some GBA games I think? I guess that makes him more likely. I'm sure he'd be fun

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

I kind of fear sakurai's latest tweet is another way of telling people to lower their expectations

I actually think it's just a direct reaction to the amount of salt produced by Kencinerana Plant

Which is telling to just how much there was of it

 

[Opossum]

The people of the modern era can be a bunch of easily triggered ****s sometimes

Yeah, how dare some folks be offended by a (certainly unintentional) racist stereotype! The nerve.

It's just kind of funny to me that people are offended about other people being offended by this. Frankly I applaud Nintendo for changing it. Progress, and such.

 

[Deleted member]

Not gonna lie, this is a bit offtopic but I think itit's hilarious about how people are going "Hmmph! People are just too sensitive these days/The left is too sensitive" when this year I made a tweet going "Logan Paul recording his visit in Japan's suicide forest and a corpse there was bad and disrespectful to the culture, not to mention illegal" and some ****head went "GWEN DON'T TELL ME YOU'RE A LEFTIST?!" unironically, in horror at me condemning that garbage

Trust me, those people have the wrong mindset. There's a difference between having an unpopular opinion and defacing an entire nationality and country for the entire world to see, with especially including a ****ing corpse of someone who committed suicide.

 

[Union of Darkness]

During Nintendo's Japanese livestream, one of Mr. Game & Watch's attacks was shown off. It was referencing offensive depiction of Native Americans.

We reached out for Nintendo for an statement. The feather will be removed from Mr. Game & Watch's attack. pic.twitter.com/dOwNqjrV8J

— Source Gaming (@AllSourceGaming) November 7, 2018

Welp, it's happening.

I can't help but kinda feel bad for Sakurai, it must mean a little extra work. At least it doesn't seem to be too bad.

My god. I've had just about enough of this SJW nonsense.
"Hey guys, Mario is based on a stereotypical depiction of an Italian. You should remove his mustache."

 

[osby]

I kind of fear sakurai's latest tweet is another way of telling people to lower their expectations

Smash fanbase could use some of that.

 

[Jetsurge]

Kingdom Hearts has games on Nintendo consoles.

4 exclusive games (Until they were ported to ps3 and 4 later)

 

[Deleted member]

I meant my signature.

Sephiroth's in there.

Oh. Well, uh....Look over there! A waifu!

Hey man, if you wanna be hit with a sword the entire length of final destination, you do you.

But count me oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooout

If FF gets a second character, I'd like it to be Cecil Harvey honestly.

 

[N3ON]

I have to wonder what would've happened if they didn't remove it. Some initial backlash, a few negative articles, twitter being twitter, but nothing that would seriously impede this game's sales, and then eventually something else would capture peoples' ire.

I mean I get why they removed it. I'm just wondering if there would've been anything significant that happened if they didn't.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Oh, right I forgot about DDD. Haven't played it so I don't really count it much. There are also some GBA games I think? I guess that makes him more likely. I'm sure he'd be fun

There's 4 KH games for Nintend systems.
Chain of Memories for the GBA
358/2 Days for the DS
Re:Coded for the DS
And Dream Drop Distance for the 3DS

 

[Idon]

I kind of fear sakurai's latest tweet is another way of telling people to lower their expectations

Luckily, my expectations are baaaaaaaaaase-line.
I'm at rock bottom so it can only go up from here...
except maybe lower if we got another ad character

 

[Jetsurge]

I kind of fear sakurai's latest tweet is another way of telling people to lower their expectations

Prepare yourself for Minecrap

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

No more Pokemon characters, unless its Bryony and Celosia doing a strip tease on a Lysandre Cafe stage.

 

[osby]

As unlikely as it is, Persona 5 representation in smash would be amazing purely for the music and stage that would come with it.

"A RIIIIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAND!"

Btw, it's weird how Persona 5 boss themes are always rock and such, where the rest of the OST is jazz.

 

[KMDP]

Hey man, if you wanna be hit with a sword the entire length of final destination, you do you.

But count me oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooout

Clearly the only way to beat Bayonetta.

 

[Kawaki&Boruto98]

Hello r/Xenoblade, what stage of grief are you on today?

Literally depresssed everyday after direct

 

[Deleted member]

No more Pokemon characters, unless its Bryony and Celosia doing a strip tease on a Team Flare hideout stage.

...Oddly specific....

"A RIIIIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAND!"

Btw, it's weird how Persona 5 boss themes are always rock and such, where the rest of the OST is jazz.

I'd like to see Persona implement more of Digital Devil Saga's soundtrack style in the future.

 

[Thirdkoopa]

I have to wonder what would've happened if they didn't remove it. Some initial backlash, a few negative articles, twitter being twitter, but nothing that would seriously impede this game's sales, and then eventually something else would capture peoples' ire.

I mean I get why they removed it. I'm just wondering if there would've been anything significant that happened if they didn't.

your answer is: probably not but eventually these things do catch up if they're not addressed in game biz.

The perfect example of this is EA with Battlefront 2. They've made dozens of faulty mistakes on similar scales before and never received so much as a small tap on the back; If any other company had done what they did with Battlefront, I assure you they wouldn't be met with as much scrutiny.

Companies do this to protect their own hide. It's in their best interest.

(Hope I answered well for the thread)

 

[Idon]

If you want a game in just for the OST, might I recommend The World Ends With You.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I have to wonder what would've happened if they didn't remove it. Some initial backlash, a few negative articles, twitter being twitter, but nothing that would seriously impede this game's sales, and then eventually something else would capture peoples' ire.

I mean I get why they removed it. I'm just wondering if there would've been anything significant that happened if they didn't.

I mean, the decision to remove it won't impact sales either?

Also can people stop with the "PEOPLE TOO SENSITIVE" cause like, back in the good old days, people were so sensitive to the fact a comedy movie made jokes about Christianity and banned it for a while. That's a lot more thinskinned than people would let you believe people were like then

 

[osby]

Prepare yourself for Minecrap

If we indeed do get Steve, it's going to be the best meltdown in Smash history. Not really expecting him, but that would be great.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Yeah but at least the Nazi march was done by the bad guys, I think there's some wiggle room there.

Specifically speaking the controversy wasn't over the feather, it was about the game the attack is actually referencing, where you're like a cowboy killing natives or something, idk, John Wayne ****

Nintendo's solution was just take off the feather

I know, but that’s just it. The feather is the reason anyone knows where it’s from. I find that funny. Because that’s also kinda....stereotyping?

Good on Nintendo for covering the bases. I’m just surprised at this compared to the march scene.

The bad guys did it, but it likens them to perpetraters of the holocaust. That was also much more recent than the type of situation presented in the old Game and Watch.

The implications of Native Americans being at odds with European immigrants shouldn’t be MORE concerning than the implications of nazis in media. Both of them involve genocide.

It’s weird that this is the one. And that this one only applies to the U.S.

To clarify, I am not bothered by their choice. I just find the issue interesting because of the outcome, when even the nazi march in a Disney film for children isn’t the worst reference that was entirely ignored in children’s media before it.

 

[PLATINUM7]

4 exclusive games (Until they were ported to ps3 and 4 later)

Well PS3/4 only have the cutscenes from Days and Re:Coded so they're still kind of exlcusive I guess. Chain of Memories was remade for PS2 then ported to PS3/4. Also Re:Coded is a remake of a mobile game so at best there's one exclusive left.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

...Oddly specific....

I'd like to see Persona implement more of Digital Devil Saga's soundtrack style in the future.

Celosia would be a better choice than any Pokemon, just have her use her Aegislash like a sword and go crazy like she does in the manga when she uses it.. Her taints can be various strip teases and Flare poses.

 

[KarneraMythos]

I kind of fear sakurai's latest tweet is another way of telling people to lower their expectations

There's two sides to this coin though. Sakurai mentioned getting the Fighter's Pack if you have confidence in it. Now put 2 and 2 together and you have a pack based on Nintendo's list of shills characters, and only 5 of those will be characters he thinks will be best for Smash. Even if they end up being boring/safe picks, they might be the lesser of evils while the ones who were denied could be potentially way worse. Just something to consider.

 

[Bolshoi]

Oh, right I forgot about DDD. Haven't played it so I don't really count it much. There are also some GBA games I think? I guess that makes him more likely. I'm sure he'd be fun

Chain of Memories, which is a retelling of KH1 with cards.

 

[Deleted member]

I have to wonder what would've happened if they didn't remove it. Some initial backlash, a few negative articles, twitter being twitter, but nothing that would seriously impede this game's sales, and then eventually something else would capture peoples' ire.

I mean I get why they removed it. I'm just wondering if there would've been anything significant that happened if they didn't.

People complained to Rockstar about how terrible the crunch weeks were for the developers of Red Dead Redemption 2.
People still bought it regardless.

It's literally just knee-jerk responses and reactions, just like the Smash Ultimate November Direct. Yes, it was not a good Nintendo Direct. But do you think that's gonna matter? Absolutely ****ing not, because you know it's gonna sell gangbusters, regardless.

Anyways, sorry for breaking out into Serious Scott, y'all. Just please know Nintendo and Sakurai isn't racist and this was all misunderstanding. We all come from different countries, but we have to also understand each other. We're all in this boat together, and while of course, you can't change what a country believes in, we can all try to learn and see where we can go.

There's your TED Talk, I guess. Let's talk about Smash now. Rex & Pyra and Geno for Smash Ultimate DLC anyone?

 

[ClaTheBae]

"A RIIIIVER IN A DRYYY LAAAND!"

Btw, it's weird how Persona 5 boss themes are always rock and such, where the rest of the OST is jazz.

I honestly cannot think of an OST more enjoyable than P5. The tracks are amazing as standalone songs, as well as being very effective in setting a tone for whatever situation you're in. The genre shifts are very well done

 

[Royalty1702]

If we indeed do get Steve, it's going to be the best meltdown in Smash history. Not really expecting him, but that would be great.

/v/ would be filled with more ****posts than ever before.

 

[Deleted member]

your answer is: probably not but eventually these things do catch up if they're not addressed in game biz.

The perfect example of this is EA with Battlefront 2. They've made dozens of faulty mistakes on similar scales before and never received so much as a small tap on the back; If any other company had done what they did with Battlefront, I assure you they wouldn't be met with as much scrutiny.

Companies do this to protect their own hide. It's in their best interest.

(Hope I answered well for the thread)

The modern day journalist is the biggest joke of a working individual, so really I don't care what they get outraged over. They can cry all they want for I care. They can call me once they want to be taken seriously again.

 

[FirestormNeos]

Hey guys, what's going on in this threa--

>scaremongering and handwringing over "people these days being too darned sensitive"

I'm going to end up getting into an off-topic argument in the general thread again, aren't I?

EDIT: nvm, the arguing's already started. Looks like I'm safe for now.

 

[Sysreq]

I have to wonder what would've happened if they didn't remove it. Some initial backlash, a few negative articles, twitter being twitter, but nothing that would seriously impede this game's sales, and then eventually something else would capture peoples' ire.

I mean I get why they removed it. I'm just wondering if there would've been anything significant that happened if they didn't.

I think avoiding that period of time where all the negative press is happening is probably just worth it in the long run. The only boon I could see is on-the-fence fans buying the game to spite the "ess-jay-dubyahs" for being "too sensitive."

 

[PlayerOneTyler]

Chain of Memories, which is a retelling of KH1 with cards.

It's not a retelling, but it did have a card system and revisited many of the worlds from the first game.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

Actually it would be pretty cool if Linkle was added as a new Zelda character.. Oh yay 4 Links, but Linkle would hands down be the best of all of them.

 

[MyDude213]

Oh, right I forgot about DDD. Haven't played it so I don't really count it much. There are also some GBA games I think? I guess that makes him more likely. I'm sure he'd be fun

There's one GBA game chain of memories, two DS games 358/2 days and re-coded. and one 3DS game that being DDD.