Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Mc.Rad]

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Tada folks, here’s a good look at that new emblem that Falcon has on the Blue Falcon. Hopefully something great comes out of this. UNKNOWN 2ND NINTENDO DIRECT HYPE!!!

...
The blue falcon got that in Smash Wii U...

It’s another pointless falcon redesign...

Well...

This sucks

 

[Noipoi]

You really think if they weren't gonna bring in every character, Lucario would still make it? Pichu definitely would have not for SURE

Maybe not Pichu, but Lucario for sure. It's one of the most popular Pokemon outside of Gen 1. It might've been a relevancy pick, but It's earned the right to stay.

 

[insomniac19]

After all these deconfirmations (and assuming neither spirits nor assist trophies can be made playable), I'm still rooting for Porky, Andy, Elma, Bandana Dee, Sora, and Banjo & Kazooie. All in all, there are still quite a few popular picks left to be seen.

 

[CannonStreak]

Dixie can still be DLC, right? As a semi-clone? I mean, Isabelle is kind of a semi-clone and she was not listed as an echo fighter herself.

 

[Shroob]

You really think if they weren't gonna bring in every character, Lucario would still make it? Pichu definitely would have not for SURE

Depends on 'when' the Gen4 remakes come.

If the Gen 4 remakes are only like, a year old by the time the next Smash gets announced and cuts are confirmed, he'll still be advertisement for the Pokemon Company.

 

[Mellowy Yellow]

PICK ONE for Square Enix DLC:

Crono
Sora
Geno
Dragon Quest Rep.
Final Fantasy Rep.
Lenneth

You already know my answer

 

[Wyoming]

"A Piranha Plant? Out of everyone on the most wanted characters list, you pick HIM?! He wasn't even on the list! SANS was on the list!"
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EVERYTHING YOU'VE SAID HAS MADE ME VIOLENTLY ANGRY

 

[Mecakoto]

Something to keep in mind: DLC is going to be made and marketed to sell outside the base game, which is blatantly obvious. Base game has Ridley, K.Rool, Pichu, Simon... It's not going to have issues selling.

But DLC? That's going to go to popular picks, or picks that will sell well. Like... Something from... Minecraft. I hate this.

 

[PsySmasher]

My bets for DLC:

Dee
Sora/Geno
Banjo
Rex (Mii costume doesn't mean anything, calm down guys.)
????

Sakurai literally said Rex didn't make the roster because his game was announced after the project plan.
Any character that wasn't considered for the roster at the time the project plan was finalized (late 2015) is not getting in as DLC.

 

[Roberk]

>Fiora gets a spirit
>"Made of Metal"

 

[paper roxy]

Best timeline is that both are in tbvh. I hope it will be what happens.

id be pretty happy if both were in. mostly so it wouldnt be geno or sora "taking the spot" from another character

 

[CosmicQuark]

So I guess Blog theory is just wrong then??

It's been wrong since the average dropped a month or so ago. And this is coming from someone who was analyzing the blog for that purpose since August.

 

[Androobie]

Also, I wonder if the stage builder is indeed gone. No mention of it at all, but it could still be there, somehow. I really want to try it out once more.

Who needs Stage Builder when you can change the volume and screen brightness?

 

[Schnee117]

I think MOST of us were, to be honest. A lot of them were probably just not saying anything.

Yeah I never felt a need to reiterate that I believed the box after arguing in favour of it a decent bit.

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Tada folks, here’s a good look at that new emblem that Falcon has on the Blue Falcon. Hopefully something great comes out of this. UNKNOWN 2ND NINTENDO DIRECT HYPE!!!

Oh ****.
LM3 2.0: Mute City Boogaloo pls

 

[Fortnite4Smash]

Maybe not Pichu, but Lucario for sure. It's one of the most popular Pokemon outside of Gen 1. It might've been a relevancy pick, but It's earned the right to stay.

Hm, idk. I think Lucario wouldn't have made it cause, heck, Mewtwo didn't make it In brawl and 4, squirtle and ivysaur didn't make it to 4 either. and I know those 3 are fan favorite characters

 

[Michele]

There is all items here. https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/item/index.html

No previously cut items return. But...It appears that Spring and Team Healers may be cut. RIP them.

Honestly, it was a good idea removing Spring, it was so annoying lol

 

[KMDP]

Maybe not Pichu, but Lucario for sure. It's one of the most popular Pokemon outside of Gen 1. It might've been a relevancy pick, but It's earned the right to stay.

Well said, Noipoi!

Reminder that the Popular Pokémon aren't just the Generation I mons.

 

[Lunacial]

So, does Geno have a chance at DLC? I know he is going to be a spirit, but still...

He still has a good chance, he's insanely popular. Being a spirit doesn't deconfirm them from being a fighter, both K. Rool and Samus have spirits

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

The best thing about piranha plant is that any game Character (MAINLY game character) can get in, including Bubsy. Don't care what anyone says, it's my weird idea so heck u.

 

[FixedFun]

Oof

 

[Deleted member]

Something to keep in mind: DLC is going to be made and marketed to sell outside the base game, which is blatantly obvious. Base game has Ridley, K.Rool, Pichu, Simon... It's not going to have issues selling.

But DLC? That's going to go to popular picks, or picks that will sell well. Like... Something from... Minecraft. I hate this.

That benefits Crash and Sora’s chances too.

Sora is iconic enought to warrant many benefits, and Crash has transformed into a Money-making machine since N-Sane released.

Both would sell a lot of DLC.

 

[Paperchampion23]

There is all items here. https://www.smashbros.com/en_US/item/index.html

No previously cut items return. But...It appears that Spring and Team Healers may be cut. RIP them.

Honestly, it was a good idea removing Spring, it was so annoying lol

I'm more sad about the pokemon. There are so many that I wish came back.

 

[Raxxel]

Isnt Steve from Minecraft black? That would be something cool about him if hes dlc.

He's actually of Puerto Rican descent.

 

[Cosmic77]

After this Smash game is finally done, I think it's time for us old-timers pass on the baton to younger fans and let them decide who to support. No offense, but I feel like our personal nostalgia and childhoods of yesteryear are hogging the spotlight when it comes to characters. We convince newer fans to support the same old (and sometimes obscure) characters like Isaac, Geno, Skull Kid, and Banjo, only to turn around and bash modern additions like Isabelle and Incineroar because "nobody wanted them".

We've had our time, but I think the new generation is ready to take over the Smash fanbase.

 

[LuigiBros7]

I've had enough time to think over the Direct now, and my main beef is that this game doesn't really seem to be Ultimate outside of the roster. Nearly every stage is brought back from a previous game, with the only adjustments being graphical upgrades for stages from 64 through Brawl. It seems like a ton of music is either straight rips or old remixes, even more than usual. Modes seem especially light, with seemingly everything gone but Adventure Mode, All-Star Mode, Spirits (which seems to be an Events replacement, which is fair), and the usual regular Smash modes. Adventure Mode could be cool, but it really does just seem like the Spirits battles but you walk around on a map between them. Equipment didn't seem to be especially well received in Smash 4, or even hated; it just didn't seem to invoke a reaction from anymore, so I don't know why they doubled down on them. Custom moves were also removed, even if you didn't like them, that's a notable cut. I can't say as to whether the online changes will be good or bad, it depends on how the matchmaking priority will work.

I'm not even really salty about the characters. The only characters I could really say I supported out of the Grinch leak were Geno and Banjo, and I'm not really dedicated to them. Snake coming back was the big highlight for me. Piranha Plant seems like a cool and wacky character, but my problem is that he feels out of place. In a game with so few newcomers, each one is going to stick out that much more. If Piranha Plant was a Smash 4 character, I doubt people would be nearly as incensed. But here, when he'll be the 7th newcomer, it stings a lot more. I think that's what people confused by the outrage need to understand. Honestly, it's made me decide not to go for the season pass. A $5 discount isn't worth the gamble of whatever bizarre choices Sakurai picks, so I'm voting with my wallet on that one.

 

[Lukingordex]

I still have hopes for my boy crash as DLC. Can't say i'm very happy after Isaac got deconfirmed though

 

[CannonStreak]

He still has a good chance, he's insanely popular. Being a spirit doesn't deconfirm them from being a fighter, both K. Rool and Samus have spirits

What about Dixie Kong, as I said on the last page? I mean, she can be a semi-clone, like Isabelle, right?

 

[99_Jydge]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, and it probably has, but do you guys think Spirits deconfirm characters as DLC? They're the replacement for trophies so I would hope not.

 

[Pazzo.]

I want to hear that remix.

It's in the direct where Guile's AT is being shown. Pretty good!

 

[KMDP]

PICK ONE for Square Enix DLC:

Crono
Sora
Geno
Dragon Quest Rep.
Final Fantasy Rep.
Lenneth

Take a look in my Signature, I think the answer will be clear.
If it isn't clear, I'd pick Tifa.

 

[toonito]

Smash Ultimate DLC
Waddle Dee
Zubat
Byleth
Steve
Goku (not Kakarot)

you laugh now but Piranha Plant says otherwise (hardest i've laughed at a reveal, Sakurai hates Waluigi)

 

[Chrollo.]

Maybe not Pichu, but Lucario for sure. It's one of the most popular Pokemon outside of Gen 1. It might've been a relevancy pick, but It's earned the right to stay.

Out of all the Pokemon that The Pokemon Company has tried pushing as a face Lucario is probably one of the most successful. I don’t know why people think he’s irrelevant.

 

[TeamFlareZakk]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, and it probably has, but do you guys think Spirits deconfirm characters as DLC? They're the replacement for trophies so I would hope not.

Mewtwo Smash 4 dlc and trophy.

 

[Raxxel]

Sorry if this has already been discussed, and it probably has, but do you guys think Spirits deconfirm characters as DLC? They're the replacement for trophies so I would hope not.

Nah. Not only do playable characters have spirits as well, but Mewtwo and Lucas both had trophies last game and were still DLC.

 

[ChocolatGelgato]

in terms of dlc speculation:

Bandana Waddle Dee seems to have surivived what was basically nintendo's thanos snap, i have a strong feeling he's in the dlc list and probably the last nintendo character.
Dragon Quest is the real answer so Erdrick will hopefully get in but it's probably sora as thats what the insiders seem to vouch for
No namco rep yet so either heihachi or lloyd/yuri will probably fit in here.
Rabbid Peach was seen so ubisoft content is there but no sign of rayman yet, if he survives the snap too he's likely in the dlc list too.
I hope to god sakurai sees the banjo hype and turns it around but this last slot is probably steve or monster hunter or something else.

I believe if a character is spirited they dead for good. The DLC list has probably already been chosen, hence why spring man and rex were cruelly cut from this world.

 

[IMainKingKRool]

He's actually of Puerto Rican descent.

good reference

frick you minecraft steve, i do not play your games because you are black.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Okay, spirits themselves may seem like a disappointment compared to trophies, but I won't lie, Spirits mode itself really doesn't seem all that bad. It may be a lot like event match, but it looks like they have a lot of fun and cute ideas for it. That Owain Spirit match in which Chrom taunts at every possible opportunity, for instance, is a genius way to represent Owain without actually putting him in the game. It probably won't be my favorite mode ever but I expect to still have good fun with it.

 

[Deleted member]

I will take Spirits over Smash Tour any day.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

why did snake think hiding in a box would work?

 

[Potato_]

Sakurai literally said Rex didn't make the roster because his game was announced after the project plan.
Any character that wasn't considered for the roster at the time the project plan was finalized (late 2015) is not getting in as DLC.

Sakurai also said they hadn't decided on characters for DLC yet.

I don't understand how the project plan is relevant for DLC picks. Mind explaining for me? Cause I'll admit I'm not totally sure but I'd think they're unrelated to each other if they haven't decided.

That is if we're taking Sakurai at his word.