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Doc was an accidental omission, actually lol. Lucina and Dark Pit I see getting a decently large rework. Perhaps that should be in my explanation. And if you read my explanation, as I just pointed out to Morbi, I said Bandana Dee is more likely and I just happen to prefer Marx. Y'all gotta stop just looking at the picture.
But Marth has a more similar face to Shulk than Little Mac.
What you said would have been 100% true if Marth wouldn't get such low Vote when he's more popular than Roy in the smash scene by being the "Competitive" one. AND having His game out of Japan
Recurring villian? He only appeared "once" (Depending on how you look at superstar and Ultra) as a villian. While he did make small cameos and mentions in other games, he just now got another major appearence in star allies which may or may not be too late of an appearance for that to be a consideration for smash switch.
Probably an assist trophy. That is where all of the interesting characters that are not quite playable material go in hopes to one day achieve what Little Mac has.
Yeah, no ****. People are definitely downplaying it.
Competitive is irrelevant. That is an extremely minuscule percentage. We are talking about all the kids who wanted to play the cool guy with the fire sword over Martha Stewart.
But Roy is the Smash scene's Boi. He has Boi factor in play here.
1) While your Toad/Fawful analogy is somewhat apt, keep in mind that Bowser Jr. got in, despite being a secondary villain in a series where some of the mainstay characters/playable aren't yet (including Toad).
No I only count the original characters. Alts arent not taken into consideration.
I'm glad you understood my sarcasm, I was just doing what Smashboard does. Only take a little part of the truth, bend it, and use it as a truth while dissmissing the rest.
True and TH3 PHIR3
There is no problem discussing it. Everything is a possibility and ignoring it would be foolish. I just feel as though the Smash community, as a whole, seems to have this "playable" or "bust" mentality. Marx has, essentially, become relevant to Kirby again and that might definitely play a part into Smash. I am just stating my opinion that there is no way in hell he is going to be playable.
Uh huh... Okay. You definitely seem to have a personal stake in this discussion for whatever reason. If you want to deny reality, that is fine. The fact of the matter is Smash put him on a pedestal and despite Marth being more important, that does not translate to what people genuinely enjoy.
Actually, I have no personal stake in this discussion my man- Sorry if it looked like it- What I mean is that sure he's very popular in Smash- But also very popular amongst the Fire Emblem Fanbase-
I am sure there are plenty of factors that contribute to his popularity. Smash just happens to be the largest by a significant margin. I would go as far as to say he is popular in Fire Emblem because of Smash. Most Fire Emblem fans are just Smash fans re-skinned as is, given it was the introduction to the series. Obviously there is no way to discern the exact discrepancy, but it is fair to say that it is fairly negligible and really not worth going out of your way to mention without being overly pedantic.
Sakurai has never been on record saying this. This is misinformation.
I never thought of plasm wraith before, but now I really want it. Overall though, I think you have a solid first roster.
Yellow blocks are Newcomers, Yellow Random blocks are newcomers yet to be determined or could be anyone from the series.
Explanations
Captain Syrup: Wario Land Rep that all the Wario Land stuff Wario is willing to hold himself can be piled onto her.
Ashely: Self explanatory I think
Paper Mario:Self explanatory I think
Impa over Sheik: They can be costumes of one another but I really think Impa based on her near perfect attendance as Zelda's aid makes more sense.
Ridley: Self explanatory I think
Wolf: I think he's more different than Falco personally but yeah
Bandana Dee: Just finished Star Allies so he's self-explanatory I think
Marx: He is in Star Allies and the only real villain so far I think to be in multiple games now and is a playable boss which is new.
DK guys: They're all self-explanatory
Plasma Wraith [needs a video]
Rex and Pyra: Well ya'know
FE: Okay I'm no expert but here's what I see, FE has new games and more coming possibly after smash release those two random slots are for those guys. I can't see Lucina as anything but a costume personally.
King Hippo: The most recognizable Punch Out character other than Little Mac
Deahtborn: [Have a read] Also he'll be taking Gana's old set
Porky: There's a lot you can do with him he doesn't have to be a giant spider and the other two Mother characters are amalgamates so yeah.
Pokemon: Gen 8 guy needs a slot. Lucario could come back but I don't know.
KI: Overhaul Dark Pit and everyone else is pretty self-explanatory
ARMS:
[Springman] is the main character and has an ability very similar to how Lucario works in Smash right now along with a parry-like bounce
[Ribbon Girl] Has aerial mobility and different equipment
[Dr. Coyle] Villainess (kind of ) of ARMS is the reason for like most of the cast existing and created Healock and robotic head that can possess the wearer (Except her) and give them four extra arms.
Everyone else shouldn't be too hard to understand
Now is Doomguy a real pick?
Well he's kind of a nostalgia character and the granddaddy of FPS games so I think he's important.
This is my first roster ever so yeah tell me what ya think.
Where the hell does this come from?
It comes from that fact that Ganondorf, a Legend of Zelda character, is a clone of Captain Falcon, an F-Zero character. Black Shadow has the same size and properties. Did you know Black Shadow is an F-Zero character? Did you also know that Ganondorf is among the most popular Nintendo characters and people wanted him to have his own move-set since Brawl? Black Shadow would also have no chance otherwise given that his series has been "dormant" which is the PC way of saying dead.
This approach would make the most sense though. Ganondorf is a clone of Cpt Falcon, the only cross series clone we have. Ganondorf's moveset is also popular but does not represent Ganondorf whatsoever. Black Shadow has a similar build to Ganondorf and would be perfect to take his moveset. The only reason Ganondorf hasn't received a makeover is because fans would be upset that his play style is gone. By giving Black Shadow the moveset, we get him as a playable character (The only Smash 64 series to not receive a second rep) and Ganondorf can finally play in a way that represents his game series.
Lol, Morbi. I know that too well. Ganondorf deserves a change, but Black Shadow should not be the answer. Bloody hell, Captain Falcon's moveset is 100% original, as intended to have the same build as Dragon King (Smash 64 Prototype). Which means it does not represent F-Zero, so that's not a good argument. It would just be Captain Falcon is a Smash character, and Ganondorf is just a semi-Smash clone character, makes no bloody sense, right? Anywho, we will most likely never get Black Shadow, nor will Ganondorf change, and that's sad... F-Zero is dead (for now), and Sakurai is Sakurai...
True it would make sense, but it's too late now. It would make little sense to change this 3 games inn. It would just feel so out of place if it suddenly happened now. Might just be me, but that's how I see it. That ship sailed with Brawl, and the death of F-Zero.
I, personally, want it because I love both and believe both deserve a chance. Do not get me wrong, if Black Shadow came with his own unique move-set, I would be overjoyed. I prefer it, actually. But that is so far removed from reality that it makes the potential of him adopting Ganondorf's move-set seem likely and, well, as I stated above, that in and of itself is impossible with Sakurai in charge.
I agree, and I would not mind it at all. I'm a big F-Zero fan, and anything F-Zero would be great. I remember pre-Brawl, Black Shadow was one of my most wanted characters, and that was even before I adapted Goroh as my favourite pilot.
Morgan is basically Robin, but better. Maybe the smaller size will make them not the slowest character in the game? But yeah, overall, I want Robin to return, but I also want Chrom, so there is a bit of a conflict there. I would not mind if Lucina was decloned, and we got neither, but as we were just talking about, that is fairly unprecedented.
I prefer Dante or Amaterasu if we get another Capcom character. And I believe it would be potentially more likely to see them over a Resident Evil character regardless. I have no idea what they even intend to do with the series after 7.
I'd rather Chrom replaced Lucina. Even if she was decloned somehow I feel like Chrom's moves would be more interesting.
Yeah, I agree we probably won't get a Resident Evil rep. I don't want one. I'd prefer Amaterasu. I'm just trying to rack 3rd Party Possibilities in my brain. I don't agree with a majority of people that Crash or Bomberman will make the cut. I just don't see them at the level of the rest of the roster. Just a personal opinion. Bayonetta is in a completely different category. She may as well considered a Nintendo character now, and she won the Ballot. No matter how you want to toss it, she won.
I mean, canonically, they are more or less the same. Unless you just mean Sakurai might do better with the larger physique.
Id probably say they go with Revalations Jill imo.
Dillon getting his own physical game release outside of the 3DS eShop is a good start, but I cannot see Dillon happening until his series gets more popular and excels in sales for his upcoming game. I see him becoming an AT again for Smash Switch. It has been a while since I have seen rosters with Dillon TBH.
Fire emblem honestly. Depends on whether they actaully did use the FE16 lord.
On one hand, Mario is mostly tapped outside of the three that everyone brings up. On the other, Smash was lambasted for having too much Fire Emblem representation. The real question becomes, is Fire Emblem Switch too late? And it just might be, for the base roster. If that is the case, it leaves Fire Emblem with the only "relevant" choice of Celica which came from a game that sold poorly (or Chrom). Overall, I would argue that Waluigi (or company) is much more likely and therefore Fire Emblem is not as likely to get a newcomer.
Mario not getting a character, for the reasons I posted in my roster.
and . at least had playable roles in SMRPG and SMB2 (USA). wasn't playable in a major game when she was decided on, but was able to facilitate a specific playstyle type with Luma and became a decent staple in spinoffs. Pauline afaik has never been seen in a Party, Kart, or Sports title.
That is a good point, actually, if they wanted to push Pauline, we probably already would have seen her in Tennis Aces.Mario not getting a character, for the reasons I posted in my roster.
The series took up its two most major cast additions after the N64 era last time in
We are left with Spinoff All-Stars like Waluigi or Daisy, Captain Toad and Paper Mario who... have identity issues for being converted into a playable fighter, and Pauline who has done nothing notable except be captured and sing (despite being part of Odyssey's best moment).