Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KMDP]

Question is, how long can we ride it before we go completely insane, or want to get off?

That's cute.

Yeah, I joined this board certifiably insane!

Checkmate, Atheists!
Disclaimer: I am not actually insane, that was a joke.

 

[PeridotGX]

Are we still talking about the Little Mac/Issac cutoff?

Nah I think Isacc was at the start. Luigi's Mansion 3 was very sudden.

That would mess with the numbering, which I doubt they'd want to do. If either character was to be first, I think it would be Isabelle.

 

[Mc.Rad]

You're saying this as if Microsoft are smart, but they can Rival Sega in term of stupidity for Brand handling.

Leak disconfirmed for Microsoft being complete idiots and putting Banjo and Kazooie in the Gears of War funko pop game

 

[vaanrose]

Okay, that is an insane catch if true. But is there any other possible explanation for that bit of green being there? Anything that could've been caused by weird color blending, or the like? We want to be absolutely sure that this is evidence before we start shouting "Isaac was also supposed to be revealed in the September Direct" to the heavens.

It is jpeg compression that is noticeable in other areas of the image aside from just Mac's boot. This is 100% coincidence even if the leak is real.

Thanks, now that I know the source of the image is 4Chan, which massively compresses all images that are uploaded to it, I am confident in saying this is jpeg compression. If someone can get me a screenshot of this glitch that doesn't come from 4chan, I'll reconsider this opinion.

Current Banner:

This glitched banner:

The same color tones that are blue on both Mac's shoe and Olimar's gloves are equally shifted to green in this extra compressed version.

 

[CannonStreak]

Hey guys, if at least Geno, Chorus Kids, Banjo-Kazooie, Mach Rider and Isacc get in, what do you think their series symbols would be? I am guessing at least Banjo-Kazooie's would be a Jiggy.

 

[Thinkaman]

So help walk me through this:
1) Isabelle is added
2) Characters to the right and left of Isabelle get shifted, such as Little Mac and Olimar to the left
3) Panel 3 (Mac and Isabelle) is updated on the site, but panel 2 is not updated
4) The left tip (glove) of Little Mac is not on the old panel 2, and the right tip of Olimar (helmet) is not on panel 3
5) The correct version of panel 2 is uploaded the next day
6) ...........?
7) ISAAC CONFIRMED

I'm really struggling with step six here guys.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Yoshi has always gotten the least respect out of the Smash 64 characters. He was the last of the Original 8 to be revealed during Smash 4's pre-release cycle, he's the only one not playable in the Ultimate demo, and he was the very last character revealed in the "Everyone is Here!" trailer, appearing alongside Luigi.
When you're being lumped in with the "Everyone forgets about Luigi" joke, something has gone horribly wrong.

I think he was given his own series too early and now they're making him pay for it.

 

[ExitWound]

i like the idea of isaac and mach rider (plz let it be a buff woman XD)

"After the destruction of his home town, Mach Rider jumped onto his machine-gun-equipped combat motorcycle and set off in search of a new home, destroying all the Quadrunners who got in his way. His motorcycle had four gears and endless ammunition. When hit, Mach Rider would break into fragments and then rejoin together." (Melee Trophy)

 

[amazonevan19]

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... sigh. Said I’d be playing Metroid Prime but here I am.

We're reaching tinfoil levels that shouldn't even be possible.

 

[ChronoKatie]

So if the seven characters are real, what would you guys expect their stages to be?

Geno - I know everyone bets on Forest Maze, but gosh I would so rather have the top of Bowser's castle with Exor as a boss.

Banjo-Kazooie - Again, everyone bets on Spiral Mountain but I would so love Click Clock Wood with the seasonal changes and everything :D

Mach Rider - Not sure she'd get one?

Chorus Kids - Wish I knew the game well enough to predict it

Isaac - Venus Lighthouse? I haven't played his game, but would love to hear other suggestions so I can look up some cool locales

Shadow and Ken most likely wouldn't have one

 

[CannonStreak]

Yeah, I joined this board certifiably insane!

Checkmate, Atheists!
Disclaimer: I am not actually insane, that was a joke.

*Reads the atheists part* Hey...!

 

[AugustusB]

It’s honestly freaking me out that everybody is kind of obsessed with the image even though there are several avenues they can explore as well.

We can discuss the nature of Banjo in Smash and asks ourselves if Microsoft would be willing to go through with a deal that would put them on the short end of the stick.

Honestly, If/when Banjo is revealed, both parties (Nintendo and Microsoft) are going to be floored by the reception of the people. I hope it would show that maybe they could work together on future projects. We already have Minecraft on the Switch...who knows what could happen.

 

[Phyr]

Calling it a night. Reading you tomorrow at work. Have a good day/night/evening/4dimensionthing

 

[Deleted member]

People can form their own opinions on this leak. To attack others for those opinions is not only petty, but also taking this way too seriously. It is not the end of the world if it is fake or real, and literally no one will care or remember what either side said about what by the time this game comes out because we'll all be, y'know, actually playing it.

It's just a game. Chill.

 

[TheCJBrine]

We can discuss the nature of Banjo in Smash and asks ourselves if Microsoft would be willing to go through with a deal that would put them on the short end of the stick.

I mean, they already have promotion of Minecraft with them and Nintendo side-by-side, and Banjo-Kazooie in Smash would still make them money; it may even depend more on Rare themselves ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Found Medusa and Skull Kid in that banner..


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Medusa is right behind K Rool's hand in front of ROB

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Skull Kid was hidden beneath Mach Rider's bike

So I guess this could be for real since these two are actually here and so I guess Incineroar isnt because he's dlc or whatever.

Idk about Skull Kiddo, but R.O.B. isn't in that spot and that's actually Mii Gunner.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Hey guys, if at least Geno, Chorus Kids, Banjo-Kazooie, Mach Rider and Isacc get in, what do you think their series symbols would be? I am guessing at least Banjo-Kazooie's would be a Jiggy.

Respectively? Mushroom, Monkey Head, Jiggy, Motorcycle and that Sun symbol on the front cover.

 

[Shroob]

This is gonna be a long ass week.


The first full week of November with that rumored Direct can't come soon enough.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

Okay, this is my take.

This could be another point that backs up the Grinch Leak.

Basically, were this to be fake, the fake leaker would have had to account for the partitions and place the new characters correctly to keep away from them.

Nintendo would rather the new characters not cross over the partitions (with the exception of Chrom) for the exact reason that we got the Little Mac/Olimar break after the reveal of Isabelle. It'd be embarrassing if the image didn't update properly and the brand new hype-worthy character is only half there, something everyone will notice (rather than the Little Mac/Olimar thing which might slip under the radar), even having Chrom at the end of the image is a huge risk.

Obviously the leaker could have taken the 6 pictures directly from the website to make the leak, but I find it unlikely that they'd notice such a detail (that all the new characters bar Chrom aren't on the partitions of the image), RelaxAlax is the first person (to my knowledge) to bring this point up.

But Daisy is on a partition as well... and in the leak, Inkling is too.
It sounds like a music theory level of coincidence.

 

[drag0nscythe]

It makes zero sense. We haven't even seen the other side or the back. It's logical to assume the other side follows the same pattern, but what's on the back is anyone's guess so it's pointless.

It is logical, but I still think the design that was given has a purpose and that it makes sense to assume 2. More will be pleasing, but I expect 2. I was happen with just knowing Ken and Inciniroar were left. I like Ken and heel wrestler fire cat sounded like a fun idea.

I am content with the game I have seen and have at this point. Only thing left I could want is Sector Z from smash 64 as DLC.

 

[CannonStreak]

Honestly, If/when Banjo is revealed, both parties (Nintendo and Microsoft) are going to be floored by the reception of the people. I hope it would show that maybe they could work together on future projects. We already have Minecraft on the Switch...who knows what could happen.

Metroid X Halo game confirmed.

 

[StrawHatX]

So if the seven characters are real, what would you guys expect their stages to be?

Geno - I know everyone bets on Forest Maze, but gosh I would so rather have the top of Bowser's castle with Exor as a boss.

Banjo-Kazooie - Again, everyone bets on Spiral Mountain but I would so love Click Clock Wood with the seasonal changes and everything :D

Mach Rider - Not sure she'd get one?

Chorus Kids - Wish I knew the game well enough to predict it

Isaac - Venus Lighthouse? I haven't played his game, but would love to hear other suggestions so I can look up some cool locales

Shadow and Ken most likely wouldn't have one

For Isaac I could also see Sol Sanctum. But Venus Lighthouse would make the most sense.

 

[JustCallMeJon]

Today's Blog is Zero Suit Samus!!

New Smash Blog Post! (10/28/18)
Today's Fighter
#29: Zero Suit Samus
Although not as powerful as Samus, her speed is exceptional! Her Paralyzer not only has the ability to stun opponents, but it... pic.twitter.com/GGX31WRRcd

— Toad’s Nintendo News (@MailToadINTEL) October 29, 2018

 

[Paperluigi11]

Something I do wonder while keeping up with the conversation, do the characters from the Grinch leak have anyone's favorites?

I personally would be very happy about Geno, Issac, and Banjo, and would love to learn more about Mach Rider and Chorus Kids, although it's still missing who I've wanted since Brawl, Paper Mario.

 

[G Rank Zinogre]

You're saying this as if Microsoft are smart, but they can Rival Sega in term of stupidity for Brand handling.

Well they did bring back Battletoads, so I'd give them a little more credit than that.

 

[vaanrose]

Genuine question.

If 4chan automatically compresses any images that are posted there, and the original image was taken as a screenshot from a Snapchat story video, wouldn't that already make it hard to actually critique the picture?

Like not to invalidate points against it, but I'm legitimately wondering. Sure, it's blurry. But the camera isn't close to it, zooming in makes it blurrier, then posting it to 4chan makes it even worse or at least seems like the colors are bleeding together...

I don't know anymore, but I hope a Direct is announced soon. If this leak is going to be crushed, give me more time to look forward to what we're actually getting rather than accidentally getting hyped at the idea of Banjo being in up until 2 weeks before release dammit.

This is why I completely ignored any and all color differences and minute pixel hunting in my comparisons and chose to focus on large structural differences.

 

[RandysRage]

Smashboard community right now

Y'all are more composed than SmashFAQs at least; they're all but completely convinced the Grinch leak is real and will not hesitate to vilify anyone who believes it might be fake.

Them peoples is crazy.

 

[Potato_]

Found Medusa and Skull Kid in that banner..


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Medusa is right behind K Rool's hand in front of ROB

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Skull Kid was hidden beneath Mach Rider's bike

So I guess this could be for real since these two are actually here and so I guess Incineroar isnt because he's dlc or whatever.

I get what you're seeing as Skull Kid but I think it's just a redesign for Mach Rider's bike.

As for Medusa I honestly don't see it.

I don't see too many personal attacks on here if any. The couple I have seen have been pretty tame.

Sure they're tame but to attack someone over this stuff at all is stupid. None of this is going to matter in a week or two when the direct comes out.

 

[Kuon]

any thoughts on Smash Tour? I know that it have NOTHING to do wit the leak but any thoughts on this mode ?

Smash Tour should stay in Smash Four. That's what I think

 

[Deleted member]

Metroid X Halo game confirmed.

Metroid himself teaming up with Halo himself would be amazing.

 

[Narizmatador]

https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/..._was_this_cut_poorly_cropped_image_of_olimar/
Not sure if this has been linked here before- pretty convincing evidence for team real.

 

[Chrono.]

So what's going on? I haven't really been on much today due to life.

What's the current status on the leak?

 

[Untouch]

Y'all are more composed than SmashFAQs at least; they're all but completely convinced the Grinch leak is real and will not hesitate to vilify anyone who believes it might be fake.

Them peoples is crazy.

I've stopped bothering, it's like pissing in the wind over there right now.

 

[Izanagi97]

This is gonna be a long *** week.


The first full week of November with that rumored Direct can't come soon enough.

Same, I took time out of reading Kiseki stuff to read about this cluster****

 

[CannonStreak]

Metroid himself teaming up with Halo himself would be amazing.

There should be an Xbox One edition and a Nintendo Switch Edition for the game, don'tcha think?

 

[doomedtacox]

It is logical, but I still think the design that was given has a purpose and that it makes sense to assume 2. More will be pleasing, but I expect 2. I was happen with just knowing Ken and Inciniroar were left. I like Ken and heel wrestler fire cat sounded like a fun idea.

I am content with the game I have seen and have at this point. Only thing left I could want is Sector Z from smash 64 as DLC.

So why is it logical to assume no characters are on the back? There's zero evidence for or against that so the box is just useless, except it does indicate there are AT LEAST two characters, but all you need is a brain to assume that.

 

[MainJPW]

If only the rest of her could look fantastic...

She reminds me of one of those Japanese androids.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Something I do wonder while keeping up wit the conversation, do the characters from the Grinch leak have anyone's favorites?

I personally would be very happy about Geno, Issac, and Banjo, and would love to learn more about Mach Rider and Chorus Kids, although it's still missing who I've wanted since Brawl, Paper Mario.

Funny enough the hypest addition for me there is Mach ****ing Rider. Not because I'm a huge Mach Rider fan but because fem Mad Max with a gun and motorcycle sounds bad ass

 

[DiamondJoyride]

So what's going on? I haven't really been on much today due to life.

What's the current status on the leak?

basically real at this point, though a good chunk of people are still skeptical on it iirc.

 

[DaybreakHorizon]

Okay, on the bolded part, now you are assuming what I am doing, like you say I am with Liam, when there is a difference between directly calling someone a coward and saying his actions are like those are a coward's/are rather cowards. It's not the same. I never directly called him that. But enough of that.

You think I was implying mind games were being played by the insiders? HECK NO! That wasn't what I was implying at all.

I am not doing any of that, just like you are claiming not to have any linking to those insiders and saying I was questioning your motives and assuming your character when you clearly implied and made it apparent that you were more than I did with my posts. You are just not realizing the inner nature, or substance of my post.

Plus, you can't stand for it? It is just a little thing. Nothing more. It is not that bothersome. No need to be a superhero about it. In fact, chances are, based on what I said before, you'll only cause more unwanted problems.

Just. Drop. It. theponycorn. I used to think you were cool when you posted all those 4Chan fake leaks on Smash Ultimate, which I liked, but now, I don't.

First, it's tehponycorn. Not theponycorn. That's where I truly draw the line.

Second, I don't even know where to begin with this. I've broken the original quote up into sections, and I'll cover each one.

You're telling me to take your posts at face value when that's what I'm doing. I took your Liam argument at face value, but apparently there's a difference between being a coward and cowardly actions? This doesn't make sense, as either way it paints the person in a negative light and can be used as a means to harm or deride character, which is what you did. If it comes down to a matter of personal opinion than that doesn't cover you either, as if you want me to respect your opinion, you should also respect Liam's opinion and right to private his Twitter. It makes no sense.

Next, you tell me that you didn't say that insiders are playing mind games when them denying the leak to drum up hype, which is what you said, is the definition of a mind game. I don't even think this is that large of a point because it's just true.

I don't even know how to understand your claim about me being linked with insiders and how I "implied and made it apparent that I was." All I've done is argue that we should hear them out and consider what they have to say. Nothing less and nothing more. I am not linked with any insiders nor have I ever been. All I want is for people to take into account what they have to say when considering whether this leak is true or false, something I don't see a lot of people doing.

Honestly, I don't think I've ever seen a serious divide between people and insiders than now. Even with content creators like RogersBase and GX, people are just turning away from them. But to be fair, a LOT of people who're either an "insider" got themselves in their situation, and I think we can all agree on that, and why we feel this way.

I think at this rate, I don't see the problem with saying why it's fake or saying what your sources saying. Hell, it'll practically help qualm the situation from reaching more insane heights as they've gotten to, now. For example, Spawn Wave's sources doesn't know about this Grinch Leak, but they do know about The Game Awards and Sora in Smash Ultimate, so Spawn has been dropping hints here and there ever since a few months or so.

Then you have people who've been absolutely hypocritical. Liam Robertson, PushDustin, what have you - they've all recently pretty much said some of the most asinine things you can do and/or generalized all Smash fans as idiots pretty much. Whether it's "Nintendo is full of stubborn, conservative Japanese men" to "Please Smash fans, stop being ********" but have called someone an idiot for making a fake Akuma leak, your "credibility" may be there, but it'll forever get overshadowed by the actions you portray/do amongst other Smash fans.

And I think that right there, is why people are pushing general joes like @papagenos who's been one of the VERY FEW who've been humble and try to at least give something non-biased, WITH giving his sources' info out to everyone. We're tired of walking on eggshells, we're tired of this back and forth, and we're DEFINITELY tired of LaxChris having one more "OCTOBER 29TH CONFIRMED LEAK!!!" video shoved down our throats.

Transparency is key, and that's the unfortunate problem, thus leading a lot of people to Team Real.

This is a nice way of putting how I feel about it. Thanks @TotsBS.

Your arguments are continually vague, and that is a legitimate problem. I shouldn't have to "realize the inner nature" of your arguments because you didn't do a good enough job explaining them in the first place. That's your problem.

This certainly isn't the first, nor will it be the last time that I'm called out for being "the fun police." Am I a bit overzealous about it? Sure, I'll concede that. But at this point it seems like you're just getting annoyed with my arguments and are making weak attempts to deflect them, such as in the last section. There is no valid counterargument or refutation to any of my original points other than "I didn't do it and I don't like you for saying that I did."

But I guess you're right in that I should drop this. Arguing over semantics won't get us anywhere, and it's clear that you and I won't see eye to eye. I know you may dislike me, but I've got nothing against you. All I want to do is encourage you to think more and clearly define your arguments with evidence. If there's one takeaway from this post, please let it be that.

Sad to hear you don't like my leak posts anymore. Those were pretty dandy.

 

[TheCJBrine]

But Daisy is on a partition as well... and in the leak, Inkling is too.
It sounds like a music theory level of coincidence.

Alax said after E3, but eh I'm not sure the point really matters either way.