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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.

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Wyoming said:
Nique means in contempt. So while not a direct translation to "**** Nintendo", it is clearly meant that way.

Mdr is short for "merde" in internet slang. Merde means ****, to put it bluntly. Albeit we tend to say it in a humorous way to our buddies. An example for English speaking folk would be: "**** dude, that's amaziiiing" = "wow le gros c'est incroyable mdrrrrrr". This one is clearly in a negative tone though with a sense of disbelief, thus "(Je) nique Nintendo mdrrr" = "Haha, wow I am screwing over Nintendo!"

Source: I am Quebecois. Yes, French people can be strange.
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This is partly why I don't think a 50 year old is the leaker. This guy's been in the industry for a long time. He'd know the nature of the importance of an NDA and absolutely wouldn't **** down his career. I'd argue he's too old for a new trade and breaking an NDA is grounds to get black listed. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
 
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Wyoming said:
Huh, apparently so. Might be the culture difference there. Mdr here means "merde".

Doesn't really change the context of the message though.
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it changes the context of the message because this how act teenager in france on the internet , that's why a 50 old years man doing that is really really strange.
 
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It's always been my belief that Eric's been innocent this entire time.


The only thing that links it to him is a receipt on, what we can presume to be, his desk.
 
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The_Intruder said:
it changes the context of the message because this how act teenager in france on the internet , that's why a 50 old years man doing that is really really strange.
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Not really....being 50 years old doesn't mean you are the beacon of maturity. I know too many adults who spam emojis and slang due to laziness.

For all we know it was a younger coworker who happened to be at his station.

Though the story cannot be proved. It's all conjecture.
 
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tehponycorn said:
I'm sticking with this avatar because it's pretty cool with a capital C.

So, let's say we're getting 10 DLC characters. What combination of 10 characters would make this the Ultimate Smash Bros. game for you?

For the sake of constancy, let's assume Grinch leak is real and Incineroar is also in.

Here's mine:
  • Sora
  • Lloyd Irving
  • Joker
  • Paper Mario
  • Bandana Dee
  • Euden
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Rex and Pyra
  • Capcom Rep (Either Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, Dante, or all of the above)
  • Bethesda Rep (Either Doom Guy or a Fallout character)
I'll extend it to 15:
  • Spring Man/Ribbon Girl
  • 2B
  • Ryu Hayabusa
  • New Nintendo IP character
  • Edelgard
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If I was going to be completely bias:
  • Dixie Kong
  • Conker
  • Spyro
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Leon Kennedy
  • Rayman
  • Lanky Kong
  • Master Chief
  • Arthur (GnG)
  • Mickey Mouse
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
I take it there were no developments or anything since yesterday
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Depends on what you mean on developments. Evidence wise, it's the same, nothing new has come out from anybody. Insiders still staunch against it. Theory wise, there's been an explanation for the background inconsistencies as well as the scaling of the art on the hanger (which was the primary compelling evidence against the banner for me). Outside of that, not much.
 
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tehponycorn said:
I'm sticking with this avatar because it's pretty cool with a capital C.

So, let's say we're getting 10 DLC characters. What combination of 10 characters would make this the Ultimate Smash Bros. game for you?

For the sake of constancy, let's assume Grinch leak is real and Incineroar is also in.

Here's mine:
  • Sora
  • Lloyd Irving
  • Joker
  • Paper Mario
  • Bandana Dee
  • Euden
  • Crash Bandicoot
  • Rex and Pyra
  • Capcom Rep (Either Phoenix Wright, Monster Hunter, Dante, or all of the above)
  • Bethesda Rep (Either Doom Guy or a Fallout character)
I'll extend it to 15:
  • Spring Man/Ribbon Girl
  • 2B
  • Ryu Hayabusa
  • New Nintendo IP character
  • Edelgard
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10 characters, huh? Well, for fun, instead of going for my own personal most wants, I'm gonna do what I believe would get the most hype around the board.

I'm also going to limit myself to 4 third parties and add in 4 echo fighters, for 14 total. That being said, here's my list:

  1. Spring Man. This one is an obvious choice for DLC. He's the only (and first) real Switch-born mascot Nintendo has currently. The Switch currently has no reps who originate from the Switch, and Spring Man would be a perfect addition. With over 1 million sales, it hit the top of fighting game charts, and touched a lot of people.
  2. Kid Cobra (e). This one took me a lot of thought, but I think Kid Cobra would be a fitting echo fighter. Why over Ribbon Girl? For starters, Kid Cobra and Spring Man have more similar playstyles in ARMS than Ribbon Girl has. Spring Man is an all-around character, and Kid Cobra is near that, being fast and having auto cancelled aerials. Ribbon Girl differs in her multi jump mechanic. I also find style wise they're much more different than Spring Man is with Ribbon Girl; Ribbon and Spring share a stylistic design, where Kid Cobra differs from that.
  3. Skull Kid. Another obvious choice. Zelda needs another rep, and everyone knows Skull Kid is the big choice to represent the franchise. Fans want him, I want him, and he'll be a solid pick.
  4. Tingle. Okay, you say. Why Tingle, if we're already getting Skull Kid? Isn't Tingle already on the Termina Bay stage, you shout. Well, yes, yes he is. And why? Well, imagine the reveal of Skull Kid. It's expected, everyone's hyped, and the world is excited for the first new Zelda rep since Melee. Well, then, out of nowhere, Tingle shows up, a second unique fighter! The two are marketed together, and people go nuts. And, if Tingle is in the fight, Alfonzo takes his place on the balloon. Alfonzo: Leave it to me!
  5. Jibanyan. An interesting choice that'd be sent out for the Japanese market. Yokai Watch is big out there, and with a new game coming soon, it'd be the perfect time to drop this little guy into Smash. Besides, he's so cute, how can you be mad he snuck into the fray?
  6. Rayman. Here he is. He's loved, he's well known, a gaming icon and a huge fan request. Ubisoft is an easy third party pick with their partnership with Nintendo.
  7. Sora. Here he is, Square Enix's third character in Smash. Sora is another character seeing a lot of publicity right now in the Smash community, and I think that publicity will be enough to push the guy into being DLC.
  8. Dixie Kong. I firmly believe Dixie Kong is a perfect choice for DLC. She'd get the Isabelle treatment from Diddy, where she'd share a couple moved (Banana down B and Side B), but get her own unique aerials, tilts, recovery, and neutral B. It's Free Real Estate, and would nicely bump up the DK rep numbers.
  9. Bandana Waddle Dee. Here's another one for the Japanese market. Kirby's only gotten bigger over the years, and this little guy has wedged himself in as the 4th of the main cast of Kirby characters. He's a cute little guy and would make a lot of people happy.
  10. Lara Croft. That's right. I made a post in this general a couple weeks ago that included her that led to some... mixed reactions. But, here me out. Lara Croft is one of the biggest gaming icons EVER. She's appeared on Nintendo consoles before, and has a strong presence in the gaming and non gaming world. She's the PERFECT out of left field, shock, Cloud Strife-like reveal. Something seeming so impossible now, yet makes so much sense in the long run.
  11. Scorpion. The final full character to join Super Smash Bros. Ultimate. It doesn't sound possible. It sounds insane, just too crazy to be possible. A HUGE gaming icon of the 90s, from a franchise known for its gore and violence. It sounds unbelievable, and that's why I chose him. Because to even predict this guy, you have to be crazy. Which is why I think he could make it in. A trailer reveal that has the long disputed and long awaited battle of the ages: Ryu vs Scorpion.
  12. Sub Zero (e). Can't have Scorpion without this guy.
  13. Louie (e). You know, this one took a bit of thought, but in the end, I can't think of a better echo fighter than Louie. Pikmin has been in Smash since Brawl with only one rep, and frankly, with the way Olimar is built, an echo fighter would be just too easy to pull off. Louie is a fan favorite in Smash, and would make for a great character that Pikmin fans would love. (Plus, he's adorable!)
  14. Ninten (e). For our last echo fighter, I've chosen Ninten. MOTHER fans clamor for any content that they can get, and usually, that's directly out of Smash. This is the first Smash game, however, that doesn't have a new character or stage for the franchise! It's a bit of a bummer, but something as simple as Ninten would make an entire fandom cry out for joy. Make it Ness with a teleport, and you've got an amazing new roster member.
Honorable Mentions: Crash Bandicoot, Sephiroth, Shantae, Paper Mario, Black Shadow, Lip, Octoling (e), Funky Kong (e), Goku, Rex + Pyra, Elma, Phoenix Wright, Amaterasu, Crono.

I put WAY too much effort into this. Tell me what you guys think? Is this crazy enough? I think I could've gone wilder, but I'm happy with my choices. I think I got around to every part of the Smash fandom I could while leaving in surprises that'd make people go nuts.
 
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Chrono. said:
Yeah, she was in Anarchy Reigns, which is another Platinum game.

That game is underrated as hell by the way.
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It's literally one of my fav games ever and I am so sad that it literally got no marketting and a shoddy release schedule. It's the only game I ever imported from Japan. Because at first, the fate of that game appearing overseas was still up in the air. Even worse, there is no local multiplayer and it was a multiplayer game. Which means with online being dead you can only fight the bots now.

/Rant over.

Jack Cayman for Smash!
 
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perfectchaos83 said:
This is partly why I don't think a 50 year old is the leaker. This guy's been in the industry for a long time. He'd know the nature of the importance of an NDA and absolutely wouldn't **** down his career. I'd argue he's too old for a new trade and breaking an NDA is grounds to get black listed. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
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From the looks of the leak, he didn't intend to. He was sharing it with a friend or family member (which is WAY more common with NDA stuff than you might think), and didn't realize that the pictures could be captured and delivered everywhere as easily as they were. And whoever they shared it with didn't realize he wasn't doing enough to hide the leaker's name.
 
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perfectchaos83 said:
This is partly why I don't think a 50 year old is the leaker. This guy's been in the industry for a long time. He'd know the nature of the importance of an NDA and absolutely wouldn't **** down his career. I'd argue he's too old for a new trade and breaking an NDA is grounds to get black listed. It simply doesn't make sense to me.
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No one proposed this theory, but maybe the person he sent the snap too offered Eric a big amount of money?
 
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Already found the source on this. Not that it matters since it's clearly Project M anyway.
 
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P1ZZ4CHU said:
it took twenty years
but we're finally here
we will soon finally get to see kirby with a severe eye infection
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Oh, god, please, no, Mr. Farmer Pichu-kun.

Kirby is meant to appeal for younger audience like kids, so to see him having an eye like this would be very creepy and turn away the audience.
 
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I feel most badly for the company if this is true. I heard they're not a very big company so this could seriously damage them if their reputation gets dragged through the mud because of this leak.
 
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If Resident Evil enter as DLC
I'm pretty sure in Chris (The OG) and Leon as an echo, or they could make a team gimmick Chris / Jill and Leon / Claire echoes
 
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So a week and a half till the next direct? I bellieve that, they want to stick Ultmate marketing about a month before the game to market the game as the marketing so far is "You need to know about these livestreams and this one website" which loses people who've never heard of Smash or aren't really hardcore fans
 
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Shroob said:
At this point, putting 50 chips on "Incineroar is day 1/very soon DLC that you get for free by subscribing to the Nintendo Online service."


Makes perfect sense as to why he wouldn't be on the banner for marketing if he were DLC.
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Or, you know, he isn’t in it and Vergeben is full of ****.
 
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Diddy Kong said:
Or, you know, he isn’t in it and Vergeben is full of ****.
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At this point, it's not just Vergeben, more or less all of them are saying it, even PapaGenos now who says he has a source that he trusts explicitly.


I'm not saying it's 100%, but I would not be surprised.
 
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So after this leak, how do you feel about your most wanted's chances (who aren't in the leak)

Tbh ever since they announced EVERYONE IS HERE and don't have to bring newcomers back, I felt pretty confident about Rex's chances as DLC. Now if this leak is real and he won't have to compete with Isaac/Geno/Banjo etc. so I'm even more confident. He still has to compete with Skull Kid/Dixie but his chances are pretty high considering Dixie would be an echo (an Skull Kid is one of my most wanteds too lol(
 
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Cutie Gwen said:
10 DLC characters I'd gladly buy? Dante, Bandana Dee, Shanoa, (I really need to think from this point) Blaze the Cat, Chun Li, Morrigan, Isaac, MGR Raiden, Master Chief and Crash Bandicoot
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Crash, Dante, Doomguy, Master Chief, Shantae, any ARMS character (preferably not Ribbon Girl or Ninjara), any Wario character, 2B, Elma/Xenoblade 2 rep, Rayman, and Louie as an Echo.
 
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One of the great things about the Grinch banner is it has a definitive kill switch, even if we don't know when. If Incineroar's revealed before anybody else, it goes against the biggest arguments of detractors against the insiders, that Incineroar would be revealed after them. If all we get are the banner characters, and they're all with the same art design as in the banner, it's as good as confirmed (though, not completely as some say the banner is mostly right and there may still be some funny stuff going on). It would be convincing enough to me, anyway.
 
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faygoshill said:
So after this leak, how do you feel about your most wanted's chances (who aren't in the leak)

Tbh ever since they announced EVERYONE IS HERE and don't have to bring newcomers back, I felt pretty confident about Rex's chances as DLC. Now if this leak is real and he won't have to compete with Isaac/Geno/Banjo etc. so I'm even more confident. He still has to compete with Skull Kid/Dixie but his chances are pretty high considering Dixie would be an echo (an Skull Kid is one of my most wanteds too lol(
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Dante: Not a chance but give me this stupid ****
Bandana Dee: I lost hope as I've got the feeling he'll be completely absent AGAIN
Shanoa: Not a chance in hell rip
 
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