Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[KMDP]

Same as before.

Pretty much split. But evidence for fake keeps piling up.

This video sums up the state of the leak right now.

 

[Luigi The President]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

When were these posted??

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

why does everyone insist on arguing over something that cannot be proved.

team real, you will never find any damning evidence that proves it real.

team fake, you will never find any damning evidence that proves it fake.

you know why? because nintendo is the only source that can confirm or debunk the rumor. i'm not saying you can't take sides in the argument, but nobody should have the end goal of proving/debunking the leak because it is impossible as much as some would like to believe its possible.

I ****ing wish this was the case, but people don't listen. All I know is that I'm gonna silently watch

 

[Paperchampion23]

So uh, hmmmm

https://streamable.com/4e374

 

[Cosmic77]

Well, based off the posts I've read, nothing substantial has happened while I was gone. Pretty much like most of today.

It's acceptable for my boi to eat the Grinch

Well.... sometimes

Zinith, your boi doesn't need all those extra calories. He can barely stand up as is.

 

[MojoRobo]

Man, this thread is rocketing by lately. It’ll be interesting to see Nintendo's response.

I’d laugh my *** off if Sakurai saw this, and then immediately threw in a low effort echo and released them. Just so we could all go “oop, dead. He’s bot in the leak!”

Reminds me of how literally everyone considered the Gematsu leak fake once Shulk didn't appear when it was said he would even though in the end it was probably real for the time.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

I'm on team "just enjoy the chaos and the wonderful memes that this is creating."

 

[MainJPW]

Oh no, ethics

But you eat chickens, I imagine, right? Yet chickens have been proven to feel boredom, frustration, hunger, pain, fear, and happiness. They even feel stress, becoming paranoid after predator attacks and visible discomforted by unnatural temperatures. And, perhaps most importantly, they feel empathy. They're also just very, very cute with lots of personality. They may not be able to verbally communicate with humans, but they're certainly intelligent creatures.

But yet, you would not eat the Grinch

Chickens aren’t sapient.

It's acceptable for my boi to eat the Grinch

Well.... sometimes

Did Yoshi ever cough up Luigi?

 

[Luigi The President]

So uh, hmmmm

https://streamable.com/4e374

What am I looking at

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

It's real, I just looked it up and it is November 8, 2000.

 

[JacobLeBeauOFFICIAL]

So uh, hmmmm

https://streamable.com/4e374

I don't get it

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

It's never over

 

[SushiRoll]

So I log onto SmashBoards, and I immediately notice that we've devolved into talking about whether or not it's acceptable to eat the Grinch.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

 

[Iridium]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

Is the Grinch actually Masahiro Sakurai in disguise?

 

[Chrollo.]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

Imagine if the Grinch material was actually to hint at when the direct will be instead of something actually being worked on??

 

[Zinith]

Zinith, your boi doesn't need all those extra calories. He can barely stand up as is.

A little pudge won't stop my boi, not after seeing how much he lifts in New Island...

Also Yoob

 

[Aerospherology]

delete please

 

[ekc]

So uh, hmmmm

https://streamable.com/4e374

So it's there, but impossible to see? Jesus I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO BELIVE ANYMORE

 

[TheBeastHimself]

I think the best consensus is that there is no consensus. We go in circles, and for every pro leak thing we find a potential counter. It's the never ending debate.

it's the never ending debate that turns people off from the smash community and makes us look like an immature and nasty fanbase. I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but I'm seeing people throwing insults at each other and this and that. It's completely ridiculous that people are getting that angry over the leak's credibility. Even if one side of the debate presents very good evidence, they won't know if they're right or wrong without Nintnedo's official confirmation.

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

What am I looking at

I think he's trying to show that there's an obscure detail in the leak background (I wanna say that's the castle) that would be very hard to pay attention to.

 

[Confirmation]

It was done quickly by the very guy trying to say it can't be done.

It was done extremely imperfectly by such a person. Heck, didn't they say they skipped most of the more imperceptible shifts?

 

[Luigi The President]

I think he's trying to show that there's an obscure detail in the leak background (I wanna say that's the castle) that would be very hard to pay attention to.

We've established the leaker has an eye for detail

 

[Zinith]

Did Yoshi ever cough up Luigi?

He's now a part of a higher life form

 

[Deoxys911]

That's not nearly as fun though.

I might as well get something to brag about if I'm right. Or laugh at myself if I'm wrong but let's not think about that for now.

I'd say I'm still having fun, nonetheless. I even made this fun image!

F U N !

 

[Amiibo Doctor]

it's the never ending debate that turns people off from the smash community and makes a look like an immature and nasty fanbase. I'm not trying to sound rude or anything, but I'm seeing people throwing insults at each other and this and that. It's completely ridiculous that people are getting that angry over the leak's credibility. Even if one side of the debate presents very good evidence, they won't know if they're right or wrong without Nintnedo's official confirmation.

You and I come from a fanbase that was certain Mother 3 was going to come out this year for like ten years straight. Let's... cool it.

 

[Luigi The President]

I'd say I'm still having fun, nonetheless. I even made this fun image!

View attachment 172425

F U N !

No wait
No hang on



....SEUSS?
LIKE DR SEUSS
LIKE THE GUY WHO WROTE THE GRINCH
OH **** OHHHH MY GOD

 

[Heracr055]

Well...if I haven't made myself clear in the past month or so that I've been on this thread, I'm obviously Team (click below to find out!)

Spoiler: OK

Natsuki

 

[Deleted member]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetch'd fake or everything makes sense.

I mean, the other Directs we've gotten have been in the early month and I predicted a Nov 1st or Nov 8th Direct as well. Pretty damn sure it would just be coincidence lol. What would be coincidence or 'everything makes sense' would be if in the credits of the 2000 Grinch, it said 'A Leak 18 years in the Making'.

 

[CroonerMike]

So uh, hmmmm

https://streamable.com/4e374

Nice! You’ve found something everyone’s already talked about to death.

 

[shaggypatriot12]

Gotta say though, I feel bad for the Bara Tiger fans. It sucks to get your favorite ‘leaked’ and then realize they’re out...see thr Chorus Kid and Chrom fans last round. I was starting to come around too...

Except we don't know for sure if he's not in since so many other insiders believe that he is. My bet is he is very early DLC and thats why insiders have been hearing about him yet he is not on the banner....It's extremely curious that no insider has come out and outright said the leak is wrong, just that theyre more or less confused because theyre sure Incineroar or maybe some other characters are in as well.

Basically don't count Incineroar out yet!

 

[Idon]

Oh no, ethics

But you eat chickens, I imagine, right? Yet chickens have been proven to feel boredom, frustration, hunger, pain, fear, and happiness. They even feel stress, becoming paranoid after predator attacks and visible discomforted by unnatural temperatures. And, perhaps most importantly, they feel empathy. They're also just very, very cute with lots of personality. They may not be able to verbally communicate with humans, but they're certainly intelligent creatures.

But yet, you would not eat the Grinch

Yeah, but I wouldn't be able to hold a conversation with a chicken about the ethics of ruining a town's christmas-time due to their lack of courteous noise control...
While rhyming in meter.

 

[Luigi The President]

Nice! You’ve found something everyone’s already talked about to death.

Actually this is the first time I've seen it
Now that's a hoot Mike telling this thread in it's current state we've talked something to death

 

[OurBoyRoy]

It was done quickly by the very guy trying to say it can't be done.

To clarify this isn't exactly right. This poster started with the leaked roster as a reference and experimented mostly with the amount of minute character movements required, only doing a bit of bg painting. They didn't make a clean background or do the kind of full recreation you're implying. And I think their points about how counterintuitive a lot of the faker's decisions would have to be still stand. If it is a fake (which I agree, is still undeniably possible) the faker elected to make their job needlessly more difficult over and over again.

 

[Dcas]

When were these posted??

Today, like 30 min ago.

 

[Androobie]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

Again.

I refuse to believe this is actually happening. No ****ing way. This can’t be real.

 

[larlargaming]

What am I looking at

honestly idek anymore

 

[PhilosophicAnimal]

People keep talking about avoiding disappointment like it's the freaking bubonic plague...is it really THAT bad to be disappointed that an already amazing video game may not be as perfect as it could be? Is that disappointment so gut-wrenchingly awful it must be fought tooth and nail to be avoided?

This is coming from a Team Cautiously Optimistic member, btw. I'm not telling you it's wrong to feel that way, but is skirting disappointment at the unfulfillment of a theoretical situation really so bad? I'm just trying to understand that frame of mind, because to me it seems pretty harmless.

 

[Paperchampion23]

delete please

What am I looking at

honestly idek anymore

It's someone possibly proving the castle behind Bowser does in fact exist in the leak background, the one we can't see and people assume the leaker didn't know what to do with.

 

[Luigi The President]

People keep talking about avoiding disappointment like it's the freaking bubonic plague...is it really THAT bad to be disappointed that an already amazing video game may not be as perfect as it could be? Is that disappointment so gut-wrenchingly awful it must be fought tooth and nail to be avoided?

This is coming from a Team Cautiously Optimistic member, btw. I'm not telling you it's wrong to feel that way, but is skirting disappointment at the unfulfillment of a theoretical situation really so bad? I'm just trying to understand that frame of mind, because to me it seems pretty harmless.

I understand them tbh

No matter what, even if this game is probably gonna be my new favorite game of all time, I'll feel disappointment not seeing these 7 in if I'm team real. As a team fake I'll be much more okay if it's just Keniroar.

 

[Tako Tuesday]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

As it turns out, the "Grinch Leak" is all a cryptic game telling us we're getting all the characters from the banner revealed on a November 8th Direct

 

[larlargaming]

Godamn, another coincidence.

Either is PURE luck, a super farfetchd fake or everything makes sense.

this has to stop at some point right ? thats crazy