Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

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What if...Slippy was given a moveset based on Star Fox Guard?

 

[Radical Bones]

I know everyone wants Wolf back for a Star Fox character, and there was just the recommendation about the walker, but what are peoples general thoughts on adding another member of Star Fox, like Peppy or Slippy? They've been around forever, I'd like to see them be more than hidden dialogue on a stage.

I do like my idea of having a walking Arwing haha. But aside from that, I don't know how they'd implement a new Star Fox character with the current source material.

Without starting another debate, Krystal probably is the most unique due to the staff.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

What if...Slippy was given a moveset based on Star Fox Guard?

I imagine Slippy as being a very tech-heavy character. I don't think the character would be even remotely similar to Fox, unlike both Wolf and Falco. I could definitely see some references to Star Fox Guard in the moveset though.

 

[Freduardo]

I know everyone wants Wolf back for a Star Fox character, and there was just the recommendation about the walker, but what are peoples general thoughts on adding another member of Star Fox, like Peppy or Slippy? They've been around forever, I'd like to see them be more than hidden dialogue on a stage.

I’d rather get Pigma. He’s a better villain than Wolf.

Also, what I really want from star Fox? After all these years?

A damn James McCloud alt with a damn pair of damn shades.

I’ve wanted it a while.

I’d also take an alt of F-Zero’s James McCloud.

 

[Animegamingnerd]

Really hoping for a large Brawl-scale trailer where we get newcomer and veteran reveals left and right

Considering this is probably coming out some time between September and November, I think your right we are for sure gonna get several new comers at E3.

 

[Onua]

Since someone mentioned making movesets for newcomers, heres mine I guess cause why not

Honestly I think going with the first games design is the best move, but they could go with the champions or frontier design and have the option to use a girl skin so who knows.

Fighter : Fossil Fighter
Series : Fossil Fighters
Party : 1st Party

Jab : 2 Kicks followed by a downward swing of his pickaxe
Ftilt : A horizontal swing with his pickaxe.
Dtilt : A low sweep kick.
Uptilt : Swings pickaxe above his head in an arc
Fsmash : Swings pickaxe down with the animation from the first game and champions. Has a sweet spot on the top.
Dsmash : Spins quickly around with the pickaxe. Kicks dirt up as well during it tho the dirty only does 1 percent and doesnt make the opponent flinch.
Upsmash : A quick single strike in a upwards arc.
Nair : Spins around once with a horizontal slash all around him.
Fair : Swings pickaxe down in front of him similar to fsmash. Has a spike at the sweetspot.
Upair : Thrusts pickaxe above him in an arc.
Dair : Pogos on his pickaxe for a while, like Links/Clouds.
Bair : A strong horizontal swing from his pickaxe behind him.
Pummel : Hits his opponent in the rib with the hilt of his pickaxe.
Fthrow : Throws his opponent forward as if hes swinging a baseball bat.
Upthrow : Swings his pickaxe up hitting them in the jaw and popping them up.
Dthrow : Swings them down and pops em up.
Bthrow : Hooks them on the middle of his pickaxe and spins them around before throwing them.
DA : Runs then does a spin with his pickaxe

Neutral Special : Dilopho Spit : Summons a dilopho that spits a poison shot, depending on how long the button is held the Dilopho's poison will do more damage over time. From 5% to 10%. Dilopho can take 13% for it to be KO'd but it will come back after a few seconds. Move can stall at start up in the air. Charge can be held.
Side Special : Stego charge : Summons a Stego who acts like a wall of sorts. Level 1 is a shoulder bash. Level 2 is a Tail swing. Level 3 is a strong spin charge. Stego can take 26% before its KO'd and takes longer to come back. Move can stall at start up in the air. Charge can be held.
Down Special: Trex : Summons a Trex who does a variety of attacks. Level 1 is a ground pound. Level 2 is a bite. Level 3 is a powerful drop kick. Trex can take 20% before its Ko'd but itll come back after a few seconds. Move can stall at start up in the air. Charge can be held.
Up special : Ptera soar : Summons a Ptera that can flap its wings 3 times. Has no hitbox. Fossil Fighter doesnt go into free fall however after up b. So in theory he can jump > up b > aerial > up b > aerial > up b > jump. Ptera cant be KO'd.
Final Smash : The screen switches to a fossil escavation screen. Player can hit the attack button to drill opponents or the special button to use the hammer. Lasts 10 seconds.

Taunt 1 : Fossil Fighter rests on his pickaxe.
Taunt 2 : Wipe sweat of his forehead
Taunt 3 : Sits down and smiles

So uh yeah lol theres a moveset idea I guess. ( I even have colors worked out since the first game had 8 colors the player could have lol )

 

[Retroend]

sorry but i'm breaking the rules here. the cuts i would want are

dr. mario- hate him the most.
lucina
dark pit
bayonetta- hate her 2nd.
miis

there are better characters to put in this roster.

 

[Mythra]

Do you think Lucario is in danger due Zeraora?

 

[Bowserlick]

You wouldn't really be able to mix and match arms if you assign switching arms to one input. Having two inputs would let you properly do that. One input changes one arm and the other input changes the other.

I would have the arms be picked on the character select screen.
Three arm types, pick one for dominant and secondary. You can select the same arm.

Pressing 'A' after a punching attack, would swing out the second arm.

 

[Radical Bones]

I imagine Slippy as being a very tech-heavy character. I don't think the character would be even remotely similar to Fox, unlike both Wolf and Falco. I could definitely see some references to Star Fox Guard in the moveset though.

Give Slippy Snake's old moveset.

Yes I'm serious.

I want to see this place burn to the ground

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

Do you think Lucario is in danger due Zeraora?

Not even slightly, tbh. If not for the internet, I'd still have no idea who Zeraora is. Lucario has become a Pokemon icon of sorts.

Give Slippy Snake's old moveset.

Yes I'm serious.

I want to see this place burn to the ground

Now that's some bull**** I can get behind.

 

[Deathcarter]

Only five cuts?



Pokémon and Fire Emblem always get new additions to the cast so trimming off the more redundant members are fine. Lucas is from a game that was never released outside of Japan and is already a low priority character given that he got cut before. Toon Link hurts a little since he is iconic in his own right but ultimately he is somewhat redundant with BOTW Link around and his cut wouldn't hurt the Zelda series if Sakurai would bother put in some of the more popular one shots like Midna or Skull Kid.

 

[Opossum]

My take pizzadudemanguy's "If you had to cut five characters that aren't Doc/Dark Pit/Lucina/Miis" game.


For those who wanted Ganondorf to have a unique moveset...be careful what you wish for.

 

[Bradli Wartooth]

My take pizzadudemanguy's "If you had to cut five characters that aren't Doc/Dark Pit/Lucina/Miis" game.


For those who wanted Ganondorf to have a unique moveset...be careful what you wish for.

Leave it to the rodent to want the Falcon gone...

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

****in furry.

Hello yes, I'm a fur*** degenerate.

 

[Lyndis_]

It's honestly really bug me if any of the characters from 64 were ever removed from a Smash title.

Even if there was good reason it'd just feel wrong. Like a Mario game where Mario has no moustache.

Hello yes, I'm a furry degenerate.

I thought the scientific term was trash panda?

 

[Mythra]

Im surprised to see Sheik in the cut lists of many.

I was about to ask why... but... yeah, guess we already know.

 

[Camc10]

Something i should ask. Whether Adventure mode, Story mode, Smash run, Master Fortress, or some combo of the 4, what enemies do you want in Smash 5?

 

[Lyndis_]

Something i should ask. Whether Adventure mode, Story mode, Smash run, Master Fortress, or some combo of the 4, what enemies do you want in Smash 5?

I want more Nintendo enemies. That was honestly the best part about Adventure Mode/Subspace/Smash Run.

Fighting a devil car from Mother while being swarmed by metroids and goombas is something really only Smash can offer.

In general I want more PvE modes. Smash Run was fun, but the limit of one person each having their own map ruined it, along with the city trails thing for me. I'd love a real PvPvE mode in Smash like that.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Give Slippy Snake's old moveset.

Yes I'm serious.

I want to see this place burn to the ground

I am 100% behind this

 

[Rocket Raccoon]

Something i should ask. Whether Adventure mode, Story mode, Smash run, Master Fortress, or some combo of the 4, what enemies do you want in Smash 5?

Master Fortess was terrible, imo.

 

[andimidna]

Honestly I don’t think that’s really on my radar lmao. I just reaally want a subspace done right. Easily the most glaring omission, and I’m not a huge fan of them reducing the scope down considerably. With a full base game developed to pull assets from, I think allocating those resources and time would totally be worth

I know it’s been talked about before, but along with a patch and a couple more characters, I think it really should be the top priority for new content to set this game apart.

 

[Camc10]

Honestly I don’t think that’s really on my radar lmao. I just reaally want a subspace done right. Easily the most glaring omission, and I’m not a huge fan of them reducing the scope down considerably. With a full base game developed to pull assets from, I think allocating those resources and time would totally be worth

I know it’s been talked about before, but along with a patch and a couple more characters, I think it really should be the top priority for new content to set this game apart.

There's a lot about Subspace they have to change, and aside from adding voices or textboxes or some communication between characters, they need to make it not feel like a drag.
Too be fair, the first time i played Supspace, outside of the Great Maze, it didnt feel like a drag, but outside of playing it over with balancing mods like PM, i can't see myself ever revisting it. Maybe custom moves would help this a bit.

 

[DraginHikari]

Why are we talking about cuts again? Cuts are dumb, and half the time people cut characters they don't like because they don't like them.

Let's see some damn movesets! Anybody?

Frankly, I think a lot of people are considering an actual reality that is fairly likely to happen as such it's another thing to talk about in the midst of no other information.

 

[Arcadenik]

OOOH, let's try a new challenge then!

Top 5 characters you'd want to get cut if 5 had to get cut, even if they can come back as DLC later. You can't pick Doc, Lucina, Dark Pit, or Miis.

My Top 5:
Lucas
Roy
Jigglypuff
Corrin
Ryu


...That was surprisingly difficult for me.

Surprisingly easy to do when you bring back your pre-Brawl self.

 

[cipher35]

OOOH, let's try a new challenge then!

Top 5 characters you'd want to get cut if 5 had to get cut, even if they can come back as DLC later. You can't pick Doc, Lucina, Dark Pit, or Miis.

My Top 5:
Lucas
Roy
Jigglypuff
Corrin
Ryu


...That was surprisingly difficult for me.

I really dont think any character should be cut minus clones, but here goes...

 

[New_Dumal]

My pick of five no "clones" characters to leave the roster would be:


(I don't care he is unique in a sense)

(I completely hate this character)

Guess who I mained most of time at Smash4 ?... Yes,

 

[Fenriraga]

Oh boy, this is a fun idea.
"OR "

Keep in mind, I only want these picks gone because I want to make room for more or less "better" or more "current" choices for each series. Robin is enough for an Awakening rep, but Lucina is very popular, so either or when it comes to Marth Clones. Corrin I just don't like in general despite having a fun moveset, so I'd be more down for other Fire Emblem reps, like Lyn and Celica or someone from the upcoming FE or something of the sort. Same kinda deal for Greninja and Lucario, Gen 6 is obsolete and Lucario has more than had his time in the sun. I'd like different Pokemon reps, preferably one from 7 and one from another gen. and I can't see them getting rid of any more Gen 1 Pokemon.

Same thing for ZSS too. I don't like her as a concept. Just give us an ACTUAL Metroid rep.

 

[papagenos]

If I had to cut 5:
Corrin
Roy
Lucas
Toon Link
Greninja

But luckily I don't expect any cuts tbh and if we do have some we have 3clones and 3Miis as padding before we'd ever have to dig 5 unique characters in.

 

[Pacack]

Note to people axing Bayonetta: I hope you guys realize that she was the ballot winner, and thus is an unlikely cut.

 

[Lyndis_]

Note to people axing Bayonetta: I hope you guys realize that she was the ballot winner, and thus is an unlikely cut.

I'm fairly certain nobody thinks these cuts are actually happening or likely, though. I'm assuming most are just doing who you'd miss the least.

 

[Starcutter]

Hey, if you guys could pick any veteran from previous smash games to main, how would you want them changed?

I really want Ness with an extremely quick Dair, that's half the reason why I play him in pm and secondary him in 64

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Note to people axing Bayonetta: I hope you guys realize that she was the ballot winner, and thus is an unlikely cut.

We can always dream

 

[Lyndis_]

Hey, if you guys could pick any veteran from previous smash games to main, how would you want them changed?

I really want Ness with an extremely quick Dair, that's half the reason why I play him in pm and secondary him in 64

Ganondorf with a moveset that is completely de-cloned and not like CF at all.

Visually Hyrule Warriors. I'd love the Project M neutral-B even though it'd never happen.

 

[Danpal65]

Hey, if you guys could pick any veteran from previous smash games to main, how would you want them changed?

I really want Ness with an extremely quick Dair, that's half the reason why I play him in pm and secondary him in 64

Honestly, with the chance of a BotW looking Zelda (which is my absolute favourite Zelda character design) I would love for her to, y'know, actually be good. Not sure how that happen precisely, but that is what I would like. If that were to happen I reckon my mains for this Smash would be Zelda, Ridley (hopefully) and Rex/Pyra (who I fully expect to get in).

 

[MSmariosonic]

I can´t choose 5 characters I want cut, so I won´t.

 

[ColietheGoalie]

Hey, if you guys could pick any veteran from previous smash games to main, how would you want them changed?

I really want Ness with an extremely quick Dair, that's half the reason why I play him in pm and secondary him in 64

Jigglypuff with some actual, non-jokey killpower and specials that are useful in any way shape or form, ha

As for five cuts...

 

[Camc10]

Here's something i havent seen people talk about.
Should the Co op modes (Group Classic/All Star/Event/Stadium) return?

 

[Danpal65]

Here's something i havent seen people talk about.
Should the Co op modes (Group Classic/All Star/Event/Stadium) return?

Short answer. Yes. Long answer. Also-frickin-lutely! They are like one of the best things to do when not playing competitively or solo.

 

[MamaLuigi123456]

Hey, if you guys could pick any veteran from previous smash games to main, how would you want them changed?

I really want Ness with an extremely quick Dair, that's half the reason why I play him in pm and secondary him in 64

Make a LOT of changes to Dedede, including the following:

• Chop off a lot of the endlag on forward aerial.
• Make dash attack less punishable (decrease startup lag, increase range, etc.)
• Make the first two jabs of neutral attack combo better to make it far less risky up close.
• Boost Dedede's air speed a bit.
• Fix down attack's hitbox so it can hit opponents who are right next to Dedede.
• Fox up smash's hitbox so it can hit smaller opponents like Kirby who are right next to Dedede.
• Make Dedede's throws a bit easier to KO off of.
• Chop off a lot of the endlag of Inhale.
• Boost the Gordo reflect percentage from 2% to around 6%-8% so it can get through most projectiles and neutral attacks.
• Fix the damn super armor with Super Dedede Jump, it's so confusing.
• Let us shorthop while charging Jet Hammer.
• Change Dedede Burst to Waddle Dee Army, or at least make it impossible to escape Dedede Burst.