Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Cosmic77]

Dark Samus is now referred to as female by the Smash team and Nintendo.

So yeah, Dark Samus is our first female villain.

Wrong, sir!




(Edit: 'd. Though I'd say DS should still count as genderless, since "she's" just an alien taking on the form of a female character.)

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Wrong, sir!

Alt costumes don't count as their own separate characters in Smash.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

Now that I'm looking at the picture again, it seems that King Dedede is just dodging Richter's attack and he's not really scared.
Wario may be scared by Pokèmon Trainer but there is something wrong with the picture, while King Dedede matches well with Richter, Wario doesn't seem to look at Pokèmon Trainer, the sight is just oriented differently and Pokèmon Trainer seems to be in a different, backward layer compared to Wario.

I have the impression that the character who scares Wario is to be announced yet... or maybe he's not scared, maybe he just can't hold his fart lol

I don't know, really.

EDIT: Maybe it's even Incineroar.

 

[RandomAce]

Wrong, sir!

Forgot about Wendy.

Though since she is just an alt for Bowser Jr, and since Dark Samus is her own fully playable character with her own attributes, I think that spot has to go to .

 

[Opossum]

Alt costumes don't count as their own separate characters in Smash.

This is exactly why I cringe when people suggest demoting echoes to costumes.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Man do we need more female villains.

Medusa fits it perfectly.

 

[ErenJager]

I dunno about that last bit, i liked the idea of Ultron Sigma being a fusion of villains from both Capcom and Marvel, but my idea would be Dr. Doom an M Bison forming a sort of Deadly Alliance

Fusion is lame after mortal kombat did darkseid and shao khan... Unoriginal and lame. X-men has the best villains.

 

[Deleted member]

Man do we need more female villains.

Medusa fits it perfectly.

I hope you’re joking.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

This is exactly why I cringe when people suggest demoting echoes to costumes.

They wouldn't have their own taunts, victory animations or unique set of Smash trophies. Perhaps not even an Smash amiibo (female Corrin, AC Cloud and "A Witch With No Memories" Bayonetta are the only alt costumes to get their own Smash amiibo).

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I hope you’re joking.

???

Well sorry for having an opinion yeesh...

 

[KingofKoopas]

Hello, I am sorry for the inactiveness again.

But...I'm sorry to say that, but I really don't have anything to discuss with you. I don't feel like I can pull off a discussion starter...

Its cool if you wanna just watch us go bananas thats fine too lol

 

[Icedragonadam]

Whatever happened to wanting characters because of liking their character? I really don't get this need to add a character just to fill a quota. Like adding Medusa just because she's female and a villain.

 

[Iko MattOrr]

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Well sorry for having an opinion yeesh...

This post reminded me that Mr Bison would be an interesting newcomer and a good rival for Captain Falcon (Yes contests).

Spoiler: Yesh

 

[Deleted member]

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Well sorry for having an opinion yeesh...

It’s fine to have an opinion, it’s just the “we need an X rep for the sake of having an X rep” mentality is pretty dumb IMO.

Medusa at least has other merits beside muh female villain.

 

[Iridium]

Man do we need more female villains.

Medusa fits it perfectly.

I would agree with you if you just said female characters. Not the biggest advocate, but it would be nice.

 

[KingofKoopas]

Fusion is lame after mortal kombat did darkseid and shao khan... Unoriginal and lame. X-men has the best villains.

Yeah but none of them hold a candle to Doom. The be all and end all of Marvel villains so if they had a story id want him as one of the main Villains for sure.

 

[Cosmic77]

If there just so happens to be a unique female villain who would actually make sense on the roster, then I say go for it, Sakurai.

If not, then I wouldn't want him to force it. Characters should be judged on their popularity, iconicness, and moveset potential. Gender should be an afterthought.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

We need Dr. Coyle

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I also want Medusa because I feel she'd balance the Kid Icarus roster perfectly. Both Pit and Palutena would have their dark counterparts (Though Dark Pit is more of an anti-hero). That's why out of any other Kid Icarus rep she is IMO the best choice.

That and I feel she has lot of potential whether a semi-clone or echo or such like her moveset and Final Smash which could play out like Zeus in PSASBR.

 

[**Gilgamesh**]

I know this is just silly and fun but two things,

Legitimate question, is Duck Hunt reffered to as male??? I didn't know that.

I think it's fair to put all the other Pokemon in either gender, as in the Pokemon game they can be. Not Mewtwo though it's in the right place.

Lucario is clearly male in Smash

 

[LoboRundas]

Hello, I am sorry for the inactiveness again.

But...I'm sorry to say that, but I really don't have anything to discuss with you. I don't feel like I can pull off a discussion starter...

Don't feel bad for not participating, there isn't much to talk about in here until we get new info, you can probably spend your time better elsewhere

 

[Fenriraga]

Huh. I don't know how I never noticed this until now, but Simon's Vampire Killer makes 8 bit sounds when it strikes foes while Richter's doesn't. I'm sure plenty of people have noticed before me, but that's a nice touch.

Also Richter's character video has more views than Simon's. Richter confirmed best Belmont.

 

[Lynn Eslie]

Which Belmont is better?

WWE Superstar Belmont:
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Or K Pop Star Belmont:
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I’m just happy that these two beautiful pictures even exist.

Personally, I prefer to refer to them as "Conan the Belmontian" and "Richter's Bizarre Adventure."

Naturally, this means Richter is more fabulous, and thus superior.

 

[Iridium]

Huh. I don't know how I never noticed this until now, but Simon's Vampire Killer makes 8 bit sounds when it strikes foes while Richter's doesn't. I'm sure plenty of people have noticed before me, but that's a nice touch.

Also Richter's character video has more views than Simon's. Richter confirmed best Belmont.

I'm a little bit triggered now...

 

[Deoxys911]

Whatever happened to wanting characters because of liking their character? I really don't get this need to add a character just to fill a quota. Like adding Medusa just because she's female and a villain.

I can't speak for everyone, but I like Medusa for many reasons other than her sex! For starters, she's the main villain from Kid Icarus (and one of the major antagonists from Kid Icarus: Uprising), which automatically gives her prominence in the series and, consequently, makes her a great pick to be playable. But beyond that, when you start to think of what she could do, she sounds like a unique and fun character! The classic Medusa stoneforming abilities and her Underworld Army underlings alone could largely fill out her special moves, then add in the myriad of lasers and projectiles and such she used in Uprising and you've got a pretty good pool of abilities to draw from for a Smash moveset. Of course, that great redesign that she got also makes her that much more of an appealing choice. I was always way more interested in seeing Medusa become playable than Palutena, and I still maintain that if there's ever a third unique Kid Icarus character it should undoubtedly be Medusa. The fact that she is a female villain specifically is only one more reason why it would be cool to see her.

 

[Fenriraga]

I'm a little bit triggered now...

Naw, don't be. I'd imagine it's more due to the fact that Simon is more widely known to be in than Richter, especially with Simon's inclusion being practically confirmed more than a month before he was shown and being leaked a day before.

I'm just being a silly butt with a Richter obsession.

 

[Michael the Spikester]

I can't speak for everyone, but I like Medusa for many reasons other than her sex! For starters, she's the main villain from Kid Icarus (and one of the major antagonists from Kid Icarus: Uprising), which automatically gives her prominence in the series and, consequently, makes her a great pick to be playable. But beyond that, when you start to think of what she could do, she sounds like a unique and fun character! The classic Medusa stoneforming abilities and her Underworld Army underlings alone could largely fill out her special moves, then add in the myriad of lasers and projectiles and such she used in Uprising and you've got a pretty good pool of abilities to draw from for a Smash moveset. Of course, that great redesign that she got also makes her that much more of an appealing choice. I was always way more interested in seeing Medusa become playable than Palutena, and I still maintain that if there's ever a third unique Kid Icarus character it should undoubtedly be Medusa. The fact that she is a female villain specifically is only one more reason why it would be cool to see her.

I'd also love the Underworld to be a stage which could easily be hers while Hades himself is the stage boss. That'd probably only happen though if she's a semi-clone since I don't think echos would get any stages of their own.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

We need Min Min

And Fixed it...

 

[Iridium]

Naw, don't be. I'd imagine it's more due to the fact that Simon is more widely known to be in than Richter, especially with Simon's inclusion being practically confirmed more than a month before he was shown and being leaked a day before.

I'm just being a silly butt with a Richter obsession.

Yeah, I guess the view count difference isn't that bad. Olimar's view count, compared to everyone else though, is a sad tale.

 

[TheMilkmann]

"Leaks" seem to have quieted down a fair bit, any reason why?

 

[lightdrago]

"Leaks" seem to have quieted down a fair bit, any reason why?

Even 4chan is bored with the lack of information.

 

[Untouch]

"Leaks" seem to have quieted down a fair bit, any reason why?

Every "leak" is the same now so debunking them have gotten really boring.
Ken
Incineroar
Geno
Steve
Shadow
Some WIldcard Character

That's all of them now.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

"Leaks" seem to have quieted down a fair bit, any reason why?

Probably because Verg is considering retiring from leaks, because of the backlash he got with claims like Minecraft content and Incineroar

 

[Iko MattOrr]

"Leaks" seem to have quieted down a fair bit, any reason why?

Because with the flood of fake leaks people don't trust them anymore, so it's pointless to make new leaks.
Basically, most fake leakers disappeared, and the legit leaks are actually rare, so it's normal that there are no new ones.

 

[TheMilkmann]

Probably because Verg is considering retiring from leaks, because of the backlash he got with claims like Minecraft content and Incineroar

I'm guessing thats a super recent development?

 

[AugustusB]

Now that I'm looking at the picture again, it seems that King Dedede is just dodging Richter's attack and he's not really scared.
Wario may be scared by Pokèmon Trainer but there is something wrong with the picture, while King Dedede matches well with Richter, Wario doesn't seem to look at Pokèmon Trainer, the sight is just oriented differently and Pokèmon Trainer seems to be in a different, backward layer compared to Wario.

I have the impression that the character who scares Wario is to be announced yet... or maybe he's not scared, maybe he just can't hold his fart lol

I don't know, really.

EDIT: Maybe it's even Incineroar.

It's hard to say. My take on Wario being freaked out towards Pokemon Trainer it could be a nod to how Wario acted as an antagonist to Lucas in Brawl. Lucas teamed up with PT and they both took Wario on later in SSE.

But looking at the Mural, these are my questions.
-Is Snake planning on firing his missile at Sonic?
-Who is Daisy looking at?
-Is the blue butterfly, the Villager is trying to catch, a hint to Persona?
-WHY IS THERE A MR. SATURN!?

I don't think we should look at the mural too hard for hints on placement.

 

[Ramen Tengoku]

I'm guessing thats a super recent development?

no, he said it before in the past, like ever since the Steven Battle theme was uploaded

 

[Robertman2]

It's hard to say. My take on Wario being freaked out towards Pokemon Trainer it could be a nod to how Wario acted as an antagonist to Lucas in Brawl. Lucas teamed up with PT and they both took Wario on later in SSE.

But looking at the Mural, these are my questions.
-Is Snake planning on firing his missile at Sonic?
-Who is Daisy looking at?
-Is the blue butterfly, the Villager is trying to catch, a hint to Persona?
-WHY IS THERE A MR. SATURN!?

I don't think we should look at the mural too hard for hints on placement.

god i wish

 

[N3ON]

Probably because Verg is considering retiring from leaks, because of the backlash he got with claims like Minecraft content and Incineroar

That's not what he said, he said he's visiting GameFAQs less frequently because they just recycle the same discussions and denial incessantly. If he has something worth saying, something new, saying it would alleviate that problem, so obviously he'd do it. Or presumably he'd take it to reddit.

Misinformation everywhere.

 

[Blargg888]

But looking at the Mural, these are my questions.
-Is Snake planning on firing his missile at Sonic?

Snake doesn't like Sonic, remember?

No particular reason for it though, he "just doesn't like him".
Yes, I know it's a VA reference.