Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[osby]

Yeah Skeleton appears in Persona 5, I know this for a fact because you need to fuse all the Jack Bros to get Black Frost.

As much as I like Arsene as a Persona, Ren using only Arsene would be a huge missed opportunity, him using multiple Personas makes much more sense.

Um, wiki says you need Jack Bros and King Frost.

And Jack the Ripper doesn't appear in Persona at all.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Has this been discussed?

Source: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76950778

I'm somehow starting to lean towards fake (not that I have anything against Lloyd's inclusion as I still would like him to be playable for Smash Ultimate.)

Definitely fake, the eyes look super off like they were just painted on

Shame too, I’d love Lloyd

if Waddle Dee and Elma show up in another they better at least have quality models

 

[DevaAshera]

So, am I the only one here more hyped for a returning character then a newcomer?

I just love that new design is from A Link to the Past with bits of A Link Between Worlds thrown in. I've always loved that design, even if I like the Maiden Dress more (hope it's an actual alternate costume)
I'm really hoping any character with a new design gets a new amiibo, I need , along with

 

[ThatGuyWhoKnowsNothing]

Uh, just Photoshop. If you have it, you can try it. This isn't mine though, so I'll just clear that out of the way.

I've seen some people who do stuff like that (make real ones) but I can't seem to track one down that isn't super shady

 

[DevaAshera]

Has this been discussed?

Source: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76950778

I'm somehow starting to lean towards fake (not that I have anything against Lloyd's inclusion as I still would like him to be playable for Smash Ultimate.)

Definitely fake, Super Smash Bros never looks this off-model for the renders.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yeah, I'm not too into it, especially with the Agnes and SK renders but the arguments I'm seeing are of the same quality as ESRB.
"It doesn't look good", "it makes no sense" and so on aren't valid counterpoints.

I vaguely remember "Wario's eyes are bad" and "Why is Ganondorf facing sideways?"

Saying that the hair looks painted or that an eye looks off from a crooked, non-HQ picture (even from artists or the ray-man leaker) is a terrible argument.

That Twitter user saying "Its marths nose" on Agnes's/Girls face is literally the new Shulk/Little Mac debacle lmao.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

To be fair didn’t the ESRB leak roster get a clearer image later on? Before had the CPU button on his face and was so zoomed out it looked like ‘s hand clipped into his spot

 

[NintenZ]

Has this been discussed?

Source: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76950778

I'm somehow starting to lean towards fake (not that I have anything against Lloyd's inclusion as I still would like him to be playable for Smash Ultimate.)

Oh my god that render is UGLY... Like if this is real then I’m sorry but I don’t think Kōsuke Fujishima would let this go by at all since it is his character design.

 

[MainJPW]

Ding dong the leak is dead?

What kills it?

The fact that the so called “renders” look like ****ing ****.

 

[Deleted member]

Has this been discussed?

Source: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76950778

I'm somehow starting to lean towards fake (not that I have anything against Lloyd's inclusion as I still would like him to be playable for Smash Ultimate.)

, go home, you're drunk.

 

[SebasSancy]

Lloyd is another photoshopped Young link

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Ding dong the leak is dead?

What kills it?

1. Isabelle and Skull Kid’s “renders” are from images easily found with a Google search
2. I still say Agnès’s eyes are photoshopped Palutena eyes (take a dropper in Paint to the light reflection and you’ll see a hint of green)
3. If that’s supposed to be Isaac, wrong hair color. If Matthew, wrong hair style.
4. All the other models (Ken, Banjo, Dixie, Lloyd) are so low effort it hurts

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

1. Isabelle and Skull Kid’s “renders” are from images easily found with a Google search
2. I still say Agnès’s eyes are photoshopped Palutena eyes (take a dropper in Paint to the light reflection and you’ll see a hint of green)
3. If that’s supposed to be Isaac, wrong hair color. If Matthew, wrong hair style.
4. All the other models (Ken, Banjo, Dixie, Lloyd) are so low effort it hurts

Someone had given an image from which Shadow may have come from as well

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Someone had given an image from which Shadow may have come from as well

May I see it?

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

May I see it?

That was a while back last night you'll have to gimme a sec

To add more fuel to this fire, they just edited everything in Photoshop everything.

This is the pic someone posits he shopped shadow from

 

[Rie Sonomura]

This is the pic someone posits he shopped shadow from

For next time, don’t double post. Edit your last post and copy and paste the quote into there

But yup, that’s the Shadow render alright. They just mirrored it like with Agnès.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

Well the Lloyd render looks a lot better but

WHO THE **** IS THE OTHER DUDE??

Also two more ??s...please be Waddle Dee and Elma

 

[NintenZ]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

Is that the Wave Race guy or whatever?

Also this render of Lloyd is EONS better than the other one, like good god what an improvement.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Hoping this image isn't too far off from the actual roster in the end, save for a few stragglers who deserve to be in with these characters (Geno, Banjo, Waddle Dee etc).

I have my doubts and will say it's fake, but I adore the characters (except Agnes b/c I haven't played bravely yet) seeing these would make me sad if several don't get in nowXD

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

Ura is the guy who made this up, the dude on the left looks like Andy

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Is that the Wave Race guy or whatever?

Also this render of Lloyd is EONS better than the other one, like good god what an improvement.

Well the Lloyd render looks a lot better but

WHO THE **** IS THE OTHER DUDE??

Also two more ??s...please be Waddle Dee and Elma

It's Ryota Hayami

 

[SvartWolf]

what is with this leaker and eyes? those loyd irvings eyes looks like they are on the forehead? ._.

the second one at least doesn't have glaring issues... bu it feels that people will soon find those renders...

 

[RandomAce]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

Andy looks so ****** up.

As much as I want him (and a potential Will echo) it’s just flat out fake.

 

[NintenZ]

It's Ryota Hayami

Yeah it definitely looks like him, this ain’t Andy guys.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Yeah it definitely looks like him, this ain’t Andy guys.

I mean it doesn't exactly look that much better but I'm sure its supposed to be Ryota

 

[Paperchampion23]

Yeah it definitely looks like him, this ain’t Andy guys.

It's Ryota Hayami

Lol captain falcon 2.0. You literally have to make up a moveset for him.

 

[Nethermoosen]

At least the last Lloyd photo actually looks like a fit for the UNIVERSAL style of Smash Bros Ultimate....

 

[IGuessItsOver]

people will soon find those renders...

That's what they said about this one and it ended up being real:

 

[Deleted member]

Yes, keep bringing the image leaks, I'm loving 'em.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

Another one just popped up on 4chan

4chan is going nuts today lol. This Lloyd at least doesn't look absolutely atrocious, but it's difficult to believe these when the others were pretty much definite fakes and it's piggybacking off of the timing.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Yes, keep bringing the image leaks, I'm loving 'em.

Masochist confirmed!

 

[AreJay25]

Lol captain falcon 2.0. You literally have to make up a moveset for him.

He'll be Falcon's Echo, but with water punches instead of fire.

 

[IGuessItsOver]

Unrelated, but a Nintendo Direct """"""""""leak"""""""""" just appeared:
New Nintendo direct September 11th

>The Legend of Zelda The Dragon’s Lament will be shown. Release date is late 2019
>New Super Mario Bros 3
>Donkey Kong Country Jungle Jamboree
>Fatal Frame Tome of the Forgotten
>Metroid Prime 4 gameplay. Release date summer 2019
>Fire Emblem Three Houses gameplay release date spring 2019
>Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee gameplay will be shown
>Animal Crossing Amiibo festival will be shown release date is October 19th
>more Smash gameplay will be shown. Ken and Shadow will be revealed as echo fighters
>third party games shown include FF7 ported to switch available that day, and the remake of FF7 will be available on Switch at release
>Fallout 4 on Switch
>Marvel vs Capcom Infinite on Switch
>Resident Evil 2 and KH3 will be available on Switch though not at release

I hope this helps
Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/429702489

 

[~ Valkyrie ~]

Has this been discussed?

Source: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76950778

I'm somehow starting to lean towards fake (not that I have anything against Lloyd's inclusion as I still would like him to be playable for Smash Ultimate.)

Oh god kill it with fire

I guess my biggest pet peeve with this "leak" is that the way characters look in it feels pretty unprofessional if trying to imagine the character artwork pose their accompanied with (Isabelle most glaringly).

 

[AreJay25]

Unrelated, but a Nintendo Direct """"""""""leak"""""""""" just appeared:
New Nintendo direct September 11th

>The Legend of Zelda The Dragon’s Lament will be shown. Release date is late 2019
>New Super Mario Bros 3
>Donkey Kong Country Jungle Jamboree
>Fatal Frame Tome of the Forgotten
>Metroid Prime 4 gameplay. Release date summer 2019
>Fire Emblem Three Houses gameplay release date spring 2019
>Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee gameplay will be shown
>Animal Crossing Amiibo festival will be shown release date is October 19th
>more Smash gameplay will be shown. Ken and Shadow will be revealed as echo fighters
>third party games shown include FF7 ported to switch available that day, and the remake of FF7 will be available on Switch at release
>Fallout 4 on Switch
>Marvel vs Capcom Infinite on Switch
>Resident Evil 2 and KH3 will be available on Switch though not at release

I hope this helps
Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/429702489

Yes, I'm sure Capcom would definitely port MvC:I, the game that's literally deader than the chicken I ate last night.

 

[Deleted member]

Masochist confirmed!

I mean, you're right, but for the wrong reasons.
Most of my participation in Smash 4 speculation was in the leaks thread going over all and any leaks that appeared. Text leaks were boring but image ones were always fun to discuss and dissect.
I've been very disappointed with the number of image leaks we've had this time around, a consequence I attribute to the Rayman leak. I really don't care if this is fake or not I just don't want it to die yet because it's the best topic we've had and will have for a long while.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Unrelated, but a Nintendo Direct """"""""""leak"""""""""" just appeared:
New Nintendo direct September 11th

>The Legend of Zelda The Dragon’s Lament will be shown. Release date is late 2019
>New Super Mario Bros 3
>Donkey Kong Country Jungle Jamboree
>Fatal Frame Tome of the Forgotten
>Metroid Prime 4 gameplay. Release date summer 2019
>Fire Emblem Three Houses gameplay release date spring 2019
>Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee gameplay will be shown
>Animal Crossing Amiibo festival will be shown release date is October 19th
>more Smash gameplay will be shown. Ken and Shadow will be revealed as echo fighters
>third party games shown include FF7 ported to switch available that day, and the remake of FF7 will be available on Switch at release
>Fallout 4 on Switch
>Marvel vs Capcom Infinite on Switch
>Resident Evil 2 and KH3 will be available on Switch though not at release

I hope this helps
Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/429702489

lmfao why would anyone try to say MVCI isn't a dead ass game

 

[Spazzy_D]

Man, you guys are spending way too much time debating an awful looking "leak."

 

[Rie Sonomura]

Unrelated, but a Nintendo Direct """"""""""leak"""""""""" just appeared:
New Nintendo direct September 11th

>The Legend of Zelda The Dragon’s Lament will be shown. Release date is late 2019
>New Super Mario Bros 3
>Donkey Kong Country Jungle Jamboree
>Fatal Frame Tome of the Forgotten
>Metroid Prime 4 gameplay. Release date summer 2019
>Fire Emblem Three Houses gameplay release date spring 2019
>Pokemon Let’s Go Pikachu/Eevee gameplay will be shown
>Animal Crossing Amiibo festival will be shown release date is October 19th
>more Smash gameplay will be shown. Ken and Shadow will be revealed as echo fighters
>third party games shown include FF7 ported to switch available that day, and the remake of FF7 will be available on Switch at release
>Fallout 4 on Switch
>Marvel vs Capcom Infinite on Switch
>Resident Evil 2 and KH3 will be available on Switch though not at release

I hope this helps
Source: http://boards.4chan.org/v/thread/429702489

>new Fatal Frame
>Fallout 4, KH3, FF7R, Resident Evil 2
God I wish

>MvCI
I thought that was dead...?

>Animal Crossing amiibo Festival
...nope anything but this disgrace to Animal Crossing now I want this leak to be fake

Also, during the Smash segment they should at LEAST reveal one unique newcomer. I know Ken and Shadow are third party echoes but Uniques arguably generate way more hype