Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Shroob]

Okay, so...

Who the hell are Matthew, Lloyd Irving, Magolor and Prince Sable?

Also I swear to God will Heihachi stop showing up in stuff. He's not even the most popular Tekken character, far as I can tell.

Matthew is Isaac from Golden Sun's son.

lloyd is the main character from Tales of Symphonia.

Magolor is the final boss of Kirby's return to dreamland.

Prince Sable is that AT in 4 who could turn into a frog or snake.

 

[Nethermoosen]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

Holy hell, man! That’s incredible

 

[Kuon]

Look at this

For skull kid I didn't realize the pillows are the same colors as skull kid and the chairs is the color of the fairies

Oh man! This is looking very good for these four. Of course, all the stuff they went over we already knew about, but it's still nice to see it getting a lot of attention

 

[Untouch]

The archive was saved on the 13th.
I don't think this is real, likely someone messing around.

 

[Deleted member]

Sakurai: Don't expect too many newcomers.
Leakers: pfft yeah whatever sack your eye

Not too many newcomers = 20 characters

Seems legit.

 

[PLATINUM7]

Who the heck is Stark Kid??? And Mute? And Shisea??

It's a bunch of character's Japanese names run through googe translate.

You can tell because King "Couleur" has the Rs and Ls mixed up for K. Rool.

Stark Kid would be Skull Kid. Not sure about Mute or Shisea.

 

[Amazing Ampharos]

Matthew has better theme music than Felix. That's... about it.

Anyway, let's keep this simple. If this is really as old as it says it is, this is obviously real. This level of accuracy cannot possibly be luck. However, I am as of now unpersuaded by that fact. Let's focus on all possible evidence of that fact first and then digest the consequences (firstly which of these are echoes when we get to that, which is probably most of them).

 

[KMDP]

What I'd like to know is, who are King Kouleur (K. Rool, maybe?) and Stark Kid?

K. Rool's Japanese name is "King Kururu" (King Cruel).

Skull Kids are called "Stalkids" in Japanese, as in "Starukiddo"

It's a bunch of character's Japanese names run through googe translate.

You can tell because King "Couleur" has the Rs and Ls mixed up for K. Rool.

Stark Kid would be Skull Kid. Not sure about Mute or Shisea.

Mute (actually Mut) is Mattew. Shisea (Shizue) is Isabelle.

Mahoroa is Magolor.

 

[Swamp Sensei]

Isaac's son from the Golden Sun game noone likes.

I liked Dark Dawn.

 

[Deleted member]

Isaac's son from the Golden Sun game noone likes.

It must be the best in the series because it has Beard Isaac. I don't know what you're talking about. Has never played a single Golden Sun game

 

[Will]

Yeah I'm hella skeptical in this leak.

Someone in the midst of the wave of reactions said the post was edited, but now I can't find it and it's lost in the darkness.

 

[Zeox]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

The game wasn't even revealed in January! it was in march!
How can we know this was not edited or faked, specially because now someone suddenly has found it, is too weird and suspicious.

 

[Shroob]

Unless this is the ****ing Rosetta Stone of Smash Ultimate, I have to assume there's some wonky ****ery going on here.

This just seems really odd.


I'd ****ing love it to be true, but something's weird here.

 

[Nap_]

I only want Dixie right now but if they give me Banjo too actually I don't care for the rest.
Still there's a lot of them and only 3 months rest. I can't believe it if this become real.

 

[Ivander]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

So if I have this correct:
-King K Rool
-Simon Belmont
-Richter Belmont
-Skull Kid
-Geno
-Ridley
-Banjo & Kazooie
-Inkling
-Daisy
-Robin, which may be Isaac, as his name in Japan is Robin
-Lloyd Irving
-Dark Samus
-Chrom
-Bandana Waddle Dee
-Heihachi
-Dixie Kong
-Magalor
-Sable Prince

As for Shisea and Mute, by what I've been hearing, Shisea might actually be Shizue, which I heard is Isabelle's JP name. And Mute may actually be Matthew from Golden Sun.

Anyway, as for whether it's real or not, only the future will say for certain.

 

[staindgrey]

Did you not play Smash 4 in the slightest?

I played it a ton for the first year and a half. But if they were assist trophies or just plain ol' trophies, I stopped caring about those after Brawl.

Matthew is Isaac from Golden Sun's son.

lloyd is the main character from Tales of Symphonia.

Magolor is the final boss of Kirby's return to dreamland.

Prince Sable is that AT in 4 who could turn into a frog or snake.

Thank you. I didn't know Isaac had a different name in Japan. Makes sense.

 

[Guybrush20X6]

One thing noticed, there's not a single ding dang dong Pokemon on it.

You think Sakuai waiting until hearing back from GF or are they going new Pokemon-less?

 

[Gumzilla]

Ok I know that obviously a Hunter or Prowler would make more sense but imagine Sakurai saying we'll get a Monster Hunter representative and it's:

 

[blazefan519]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

Woah, that's crazy. Like, this was back in January and we didn't even know Smash for Switch was even happening. This is definitely something we'll have to rememeber

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

This list is so weirdly put together.

Who is it trying to say remains?

Maybe I'm just illiterate who knows.

 

[Deleted member]

Umm guys, someone made a prediction list of Ultimate's newcomer list back in January. The scary thing is that it predicted every single newcomer so far, even Richter, and Daisy.

https://i.imgur.com/rO3BSa2.png

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/234547-super-smash-bros-ultimate/76899877

Spoiler

I'm sorry

【Entire Participation】 Characters that appeared in the previous game will return as fighters King Couleur Simon Belmondo Richter Belmondo Stark Kid Gino Shisea Ridley Banjo Ink ring Mute Princess Daisy Robin Lloyd Irving Dark Sams Chrome Bandana Wadrudi

Heihachi Mishima Dixie Kong Mahoroa The prince of Saber Kingdom

Is stark kid supposed to be Skull Kid?

and Shisea? Mahoroa (as in Majora?) Mute Princess?

Oh by the way Isaac's name in Japan is Robin soooooo.....

 

[Kuon]

What I'd like to know is, who are King Kouleur (K. Rool, maybe?) and Stark Kid?

Someone named ssjgohhku commented on the post on gamefaqs and gave the translations:

King Couleur: King K. Rool
Simon Belmondo: Simon Belmont
Richter Belmondo: Richter Belmont
Stark Kid: Skull Kid
Gino: Geno
Shisea: Actually Shizue, Isabelle
Ridley: Ridley
Banjo: Banjo
Ink ring: Inkling
Mute: Matthew
Princess Daisy: Daisy
Robin: Isaac
Lloyd Irving: Lloyd Irving
Dark Sams: Dark Samus
Chrome: Chrom
Bandana Wadrudi: Bandana Waddle Dee

 

[CannonStreak]

K. Rool's Japanese name is "King Kururu" (King Cruel).

Skull Kids are called "Stalkids" in Japanese, as in "Starukiddo"

Mute (actually Mut) is Mattew. Shisea (Shizue) is Isabelle.

Mahoroa is Magolor.

So, K. Rool is/isn't Kouleur?

Anyway, someone listed what each name possibly means on GameFAQs.

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King Couleur: King K. Rool
Simon Belmondo: Simon Belmont
Richter Belmondo: Richter Belmont
Stark Kid: Skull Kid
Gino: Geno
Shisea: Actually Shizue, Isabelle
Ridley: Ridley
Banjo: Banjo
Ink ring: Inkling
Mute: Matthew
Princess Daisy: Daisy
Robin: Isaac
Lloyd Irving: Lloyd Irving
Dark Sams: Dark Samus
Chrome: Chrom
Bandana Wadrudi: Bandana Waddle Dee

Just who is

Spoiler

Matthew

?

EDIT: Ninja'd.

 

[CommanderZaktan]

I was wondering who "Shizue" is... found out who... so,,,

1. King K. Rool
2. Simon Belmont
3. Richter Belmont
4. Skull Kid
5. Geno
6. Isabelle
7. Ridley
8. Banjo
9. Inkling
10. Matthew
11. Princess Daisy
12. Isaac
13. Lloyd Irving
14. Dark Samus
15. Chrom
16. Bandana Waddle Dee
17. Heihachi Mishima
18. Dixie Kong
19. Magolor
20. Prince Sable

Boy, am I glad I can read Katakana and Hiragana.

Damn, this guy's prediction is solid, and I'm not sure if he's working with the game. So here's what I think the fighters are, besides the ones that were confirmed.
New: Skull Kid, Geno, Banjo, Issac, Lloyd, Bandana Waddle Dee, Heihachi, Magolor, Prince Sable
Echo: Matthew(Issac), Dixie Kong(Diddy), Isabelle(Villager)

 

[Mc.Rad]

I can’t believe there would be 20 new characters, I’m going to assume the last four are dlc.

Wait if that's the case then this is dead? Like Hard Disconfirmed?

 

[Tree Gelbman]

If that list is the true newcomer list for Smash Ultimate.

I'm in love. <3

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Guys, Sakurai was so sick of the Goku requests he made Blood Stark from Kamen Rider Build playable for a Toei character. Not sure how he'd be able to time travel for the design, but eh

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Hmm... so if this Leak is true we have Smash 4 levels of newcomers (albit a lot of them echos)

But the achiving date and the EDITED tag make this a bit suspect.

 

[Rie Sonomura]

There’s no Gen 7 Pokémon there though... a lot of still standing leaks say we’ll get a gen 7 that isn’t Decidueye or Lycanroc

no Elma either...

 

[Captain Shwampy]

Damn, this guy's prediction is solid, and I'm not sure if he's working with the game. So here's what I think the fighters are, besides the ones that were confirmed.
New: Skull Kid, Geno, Banjo, Issac, Lloyd, Bandana Waddle Dee, Heihachi, Magolor, Prince Sable
Echo: Matthew(Issac), Dixie Kong(Diddy), Isabelle(Villager)

How are all these characters gonna be announced within a 4 months timespan

Is sakurai just going to have a blow out at the end

 

[Will]

Dude I don't play Castlevania, but I knew Richter. And I don't play Golden Sun, but I knew Matthew.

Imagine all the people going "literally w h o" if they see Matthew.

 

[KMDP]

Link, Marth, Shulk and Isaac join forces for an epic RPG adventure.

Link is the Warrior
Marth is the Thief
Shulk is the White Mage
Isaac is the Red Mage

Was thinking more about this.

Weapon management is very easy because only Isaac needs new gear; though it does mean he is by far the weakest until the end-game.

Is stark kid supposed to be Skull Kid?

and Shisea? Mahoroa (as in Majora?) Mute Princess?

Oh by the way Isaac's name in Japan is Robin soooooo.....

Stark Kid is Skull Kid, it's meant to be "Stalkid".
Shisea is "Shizue", Isabelle's Japanese name.
Mahoroa is Magolor.
Mute is Mut; Matthew, Isaac's son.
Daisy is listed between Matthew and Isaac, hence "Mute Princess" (Mut | Daisy-hime | Robin)
Isaac is listed as Robin.

 

[Untouch]

It's possible to go back to 2ch to see the post, but the post itself can't be browsed. I don't use 2ch so I don't know if it's possible to edit posts that old.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

I’m not gonna trust this

Dude I don't play Castlevania, but I knew Richter. And I don't play Golden Sun, but I knew Matthew.

Imagine all the people going "literally w h o" if they see Matthew.

and I’ll be one of those people

 

[Omega Tyrant]

In singles he's reasonably well balanced and not even a Top 5 character in the game.

Eh what? Damn that's an early 2016 opinion, I haven't seen anyone seriously claiming Cloud is less than #2 in a long time, much less "not even top 5". Guess Bayo is really stealing his thunder if there's anyone viewing him as "reasonably well-balanced".

 

[Pyra]

What a cool list.
Probably fake.

What a cool list, though

 

[Guybrush20X6]

Mute Princess Daisy?

As if.

HIIMDAISY!

 

[Icedragonadam]

How are all these characters gonna be announced within a 4 months timespan

Is sakurai just going to have a blow out at the end

It's probable. Ultimate is the series Swan song. So it wouldn't be surprising if there was an extravaganza type Direct that reveals 3-5 Unique Newcomers that ends the base roster with a bang.

 

[Idon]

I'd probably hate Cloud less if he wasn't everything I wish Ike was, lol.

Seriously, Sakurai, at least give my boy sword beams.

 

[Deleted member]

If that leak turns out to be true, I'm gonna have to ask where the **** is Shadow