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The character trailers reveal more than you think. This game isn't that different from smash 4 so presumptions can be made. We know the mechanic changes, we know everyone is slightly bugged to various extents.
Except Olimar had 3 Pikmin in Smash 4 and was still considered a high mid-tier, if this game is truly not that different then I don’t see how Olimar is a bottom tier at all lol
If I'm allowed to be a little unrealistic, here's mine. Though no Spring man changes things a little bit from my actual top 10 list.
What exactly does Jigglypuff's trailer reveal then? She does cutsey things and a combo with a Launch Star. That's it. I just think it's dumb when literally nobody has figured anything concrete out due to limited play time
That's really good! But, darn it, I was gonna post a Phoenix Wright moveset later... I think I'm going to change plans then and do a different character now. Again, though, that was probably better than I could have done!Phoenix Wright moveset, cause why not?
Overall Phoenix isn't a fighter, so his actual damage outputs will be a little low. However, just as he finishes off criminals in court, he has great knockback to KO foes. And, just as he often has to recover from near-defeat in trials, his recovery and jumps are good as well.
Specials:
Neutral Present Evidence: throws a random piece of evidence from the games with varying properties. Projectiles will travel about half of Battlefields length.
Side B Commute to work: Phoenix Wright rides his bike everywhere in the game and has no car or even a driver's license. This acts similar to Bowser Jr's attack. Does a slight hop at first when in the air, cancelling does not leave you in a vulnerable state
Up B From the Ashes: Maya and Mia Fey grab Phoenix by the legs and throw him into the air, helping him to recover just as they do in the games. Slow start-up but fast moving allowing for KO potential
Down B Objection: Phoenix slams his hands down on a table in front of him, if the opponent hits him as he slams, Phoenix will make his famous Objection declaration and finger point, which will act as a counter and send the desk flying as a projectile.
Jab: basic one-two punch with kick at the end.
Side-tilt: stabs forward with a pencil
U-tilt: swats at the sky in an arc with papers in hand
D-tilt: swipes at the ground with a magnifying glass
F-Smash: swings a briefcase horizontally in front of himself
Up-Smash: Phoenix frustratedly throws his papers up in the air in a less than 180 degree radius above his head
Down-Smash: Edgeworth appears beside Phoenix and both make objection points at each other except they shout “hold it!” (Like the games). When they do so, they also stomp down their outside legs creating a small damaging shockwave on both sides.
N-air: Phoenix kicks in front of himself
U-air: Phoenix swipes upwards with his bike
F-air: Phoenix swipes with his briefcase
B-air: Phoenix does his objection point backwards
D-air: Phoenix does an elbow drop
Pummel: Phoenix hits with a piece of paper
F-throw: Phoenix yells “take that” and tosses the opponent forward
Down-throw: Phoenix rides his bike on top of the opponent for multiple light hits before sending the opponent upward
Back-throw: Phoenix once again yells “take that” and dropkicks the opponent behind him
Up-throw: Phoenix throws the opponent with a flurry of papers skyward
Final Smash: Judgement Day. One of Phoenix's nightmares is played put on stage as a giant, evil judge slams his gavel down on the stage. “GUILTY” comes across the sky.
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Taunt 1: Phoenix, Maya, and Mia all raise their fists in the air in victory
Taunt 2: Phoenix bashfully scratches the back of his head smiling, a pose from his game
Taunt 3: Phoenix takes out some papers and taps them with skepticism, another pose from his game
Costumes: red reskin resembles Edgeworth, green Godot, orange Damon Gant, purple Manfred Von Karma. Others just recolors
Let me know what you guys think
ESAM posted his views/video after having a limited amount of playtime (with items on/doing time matches half the time no less) and before any serious footage to analyze was made available. On top of this, he was comparing them to their best appearances in the series (Melee/Brawl) rather than how they are now Ultimate.
For me, Blaze would be preferable to Shadow. Blaze would have a more unique moveset and she's also popular.
It's good, first come first serve. I'll just do another one of my most wanted third parties later, if that gives anyone a hint...
Lol sorry friend. Always nice to see a fellow Phoenix advocate
I'm predicting seven more fighters, so I'll do my ideal seven.
If we don't get Brawl Wolf as a costume swap, a color swap based off the colors from his Brawl or Assault costumes would be great. Otherwise, bring back Wolf's black alt from Brawl for his new outfit, and I'll be very happy.
Well I mean they were only strong because of wobbling and chaingrabs being really obnoxious. With that gone I don't see what their Strengths are. When one of them dies which isn't hard to do when you've them they lose 50% of the damage, their recovery becomes terrible, someone like snake who can control the field would have a field day with their wonky AI.
I think his final smash will either be the same as Tink or be the Fierce Diety
ESAM most likely had little to no time to go fully in depth with every character in the demo (well that and he might show slight bias towards Pikachu)...also I’ve heard Fox was the worst (though of course there’s still Pac-Man...who’s barely been used at all)
Considering Pichu’s got Pika’s Volt Tackle, I’d expect YL to get Link’s old Triforce Slash. I just really want him to put on the FD mask before he starts hacking away.
Yeah it's not just ESAM saying that though that's just an example. Fox isn't great but Idk anyone who would place him top 5 worst.
"Massive flops" generally don't get 2.06 million units sold.
3. Bandana Dee
I understand, I do want him too having Shadow would be a blast, Tails too, but for Amy, she's better be Sonic Boom Amy.
She definitely has no chance of being anyone's echo that's for sure.
So true, shooting flames, flight, flame teleportation, spinning horizontally (instead of vertically) a different fighting style altogether, and she still has a Super form with it's own unique abilities to boot..
I'm late on this but it would be something like:
Only Amy that matters (and if we don’t get Boom Amy...then I better get a season 3 of the show)
If it makes things better, we're also on the tier placement predictions
Guess I'll mention mine too:
Dr. Mario's playstyle certiantly wasn't identical to Mario's. As a Doc Main, I call BS. The difference in Doc's movement speed hurts much more than most realize.
We might get something like Melee's Adventure mode in the base game, so I'd say Likely.
Ironically, 2.06 is close to what Awakening sold, and people often regard that game as a huge success.
How about more Fire Emblem discussion?
I be honestly more fine with this too.How about more Fire Emblem discussion?
But the brand new model made for his Mii Costume!
