I haven't been keeping up, we at the point yet where we're acting like no one ever said Isabelle wouldn't work as a fighter? Or do we need a few more days?
Well after Vergeben broke his news we had some people in here arguing the "Isabelle is too peaceful for Smash!" point, but we've also had some people going "oh Isabelle is a safe pick of course a fake leaker would claim her", so we're at about 50/50 right now.
We went literally 7 months from the initial Brawl reveal (May 11,2006 at a behind-closed-doors E3 presentation) to the Fox reveal in Nintendo World during December.
The Smash Dojo itself didn't go live until May 22nd, a full year after the reveal.
I understand impatience/the situation being different given the modern age and all, but I will gladly take a game being revealed the same year it releases for a change, getting footage beforehand of not just one, but ALL of the returning characters (seeing the off-camera footage at demo events sustains me way more than any Dojo/blog posts ever could) and knowing the game will be out by the same time we would get the literal most obvious veteran reveal.
To add, we also had to wait a year to see anything about Brawl after it was announced at E3 2005 (with the first anything of it being revealed at E3 2006), and then with Smash 4 we had to wait
two ****ing years to see anything about the game (with it being announced at E3 2011 long before it could even begin development and us finally seeing stuff about it at its reveal at E3 2013). It also took months before Smash 4's POTD regularly had new info (and for the first month it was just all a single random screenshot each day, showing absolutely nothing new), and we had to wait six months before we got another newcomer revealed (with Rosalina revealed on December 18 2013, more time than we're waiting for the game to release). I understand some people will just be impatient, but to claim this Smash's "hype cycle" is so much worse with information deprivation at this point is absurd (even ignoring the megaton of information we got at E3 and all the new information about gameplay we're getting from the frequent demos happening).
Saw some people a few pages back talk about which AT could get promoted and didn't mention Saki. Why do people think he's so unlikely? Yeah, he's obscure, but so is Geno. And before people say that Sakurai has acknowledged Geno's popularity as a character request:
"He rivals just about any main character. There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him." - Sakurai on Saki
To me that seems close to the same tier as the quote people are using as evidence Geno, an equally obscure character, might be in.
Remember that quote about Saki occurred back in 2007 and Saki has fallen into obscurity since then, with his series dormant since 2009/10 and his demand has fallen by the wayside. Geno however, while his demand isn't as huge as it was for Brawl, still has his demand and Sakurai's quote about him occurred near the end of 2015, right before Ultimate's project plan was being devised. Sakurai recognizing a character's popularity right as Ultimate's project plan is being devised means a ton more than him doing so nearly a decade prior. Additionally Sakurai didn't just say Geno was popular, he also outright said he wanted to include Geno as a playable character since Brawl but "it couldn't become a reality" (i.e. probably third party licensing issues), he didn't say anything about wanting to make Saki playable, just he "did what he could to include him" (i.e. he passed over him for the roster but did the next best thing he could do, make him an AT).
That said I do think people are sleeping on Saki a bit in regard to the MIA assist trophies and it is possible he gets promoted to playable, whether because he did better on the Ballot than expected, Sakurai wants to represent new series still (with there being a lot less options this time), and/or Sakurai finally looks beyond the NES for a "retro pick".