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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.


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There's a Japan-only Nintendo Livestream about Smash Bros. and Mario Tennis next week (it seems to be a tournament of some kind?), they... might reveal someone then. Time will tell.
I saw it as likely being a similar event to the previous announcement on the Japanese Smash blog.

[お知らせ】いよいよ明日、幕張メッセにて行われる「RAGE 2018 Summer」で『大乱闘スマッシュブラザーズ SPECIAL』を国内で初めて体験いただけます!新参戦ファイターのインクリングやリドリーも選択可能!ご来場をお待ちしております!ちなみに、操作方法はこちら。

Announcement: Finally, Super Smash Bros. Ultimate, “Rage 2018 Summer” will be held at Makuhari Messe from tomorrow for the first time! Newcomers Inklings and Ridley will be playable. We are looking forward to it! By the way, here’s how to play the game.
If there's a specific mention by Sakurai this week on the blog that isn't just "look out for the event/start time, how to view/etc." THEN maybe. I know I'd love to eat my own words.
 

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Marth looks so pretty in this game. All the pretty boys looks much nicer in Ultimate. Very happy about that. I will guess the next update will be about Lynn, maybe.
All except shulk, my boy looks really weird for some reason right now. Ike, marth and robin all look bae though
 

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True but doesn't mean they won't show something afterward
Sure but when have they done that? People speculated about reveals for both Smash invitationals, EVO, various conventions etc... but we only ever got them for E3, Nintendo Directs, and other livestream events we knew about ahead of time.
 

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http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._about_competitive_aspect_of_super_smash_bros
Just an instresting article, your thoughts?

Honestly, i kinda agree with Sakurai. For some people, the technicality of the game is fun. but i agree about the prize money part. kinda odd just to get money for playing a game. Your supposed to play the games for fun. not money.
Last time I checked Japanese tournaments didn't pay money. I guess this is just cultural differences.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

It is really hard to tell, but it looks like :ultness:'s PSI Magnet has a pushback effect now. If this is confirmed, how much could this help Ness?
Not by a lot tbh.
 

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Snake: I wonder where I could possibly get a suit like Samus'... Nothing is wrong with this sneaking suit, but it doesn't come with an arm cannon and all of the fixings...

Mei Ling: It's alien technology, Snake, which I doubt that you'll be able to get your hands on. Also, to even use her Varia Suit to its fullest potential, you also have to be very flexible and athletic.

Snake: I get that she's flexible, but how is rolling up into the shape of a ball that small even comfortable for her to do repeatedly? Shouldn't her ribs be crushed or something?

Mei Ling: Unless we ask her ourselves, I guess we might never know...

Snake: Or, I can steal her suit while she's not wearing it, and have Otacon take a look. I could probably even try it on.

Mei Ling: ...You probably shouldn't have said that out loud, Samus is probably angry now. Well, good luck fighting an angry space bounty hunter!
 

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We need to stop freaking out every time Nintendo announces something.

You know that Japan Expo in France that just ended? The one where everyone thought a newcomer could possibly get revealed? Absolutely nothing happened. No new character was revealed, no new stages were seen, and no characters got disconfirmed.

This tournament thing in Japan that features Smash and Mario Tennis Aces could very well be just a tournament and nothing else.
I agree that not every single gaming event is a possibility for an announcement but this is Nintendo livestreaming something themselves (as far as I know they didn't live stream anything for the France event, CEO or Rage).

Not related to your comment, I also think it's totally ok to look forward to little things like this. Like don't assume it will be King K. Rool but who knows what could happen. Gives me something to look forward to at the end of the week and that makes me happier so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Once again not based on your post. But I feel this forum has a tendency to shoot down fun and hope way too fast. Like I'm just excited Nintendo is live streaming Smash content. That's cool.)
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
 

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What if the "Marth" on the website is just King K. Rool in one of his disguises?
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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
I'm assuming you mean out of the cut veterans, in which case it's :ultpichu: for me, I've wanted him back forever lol. Otherwise it's :ultjigglypuff: as always.
 

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I agree that not every single gaming event is a possibility for an announcement but this is Nintendo livestreaming something themselves (as far as I know they didn't live stream anything for the France event, CEO or Rage).

Not related to your comment, I also think it's totally ok to look forward to little things like this. Like don't assume it will be King K. Rool but who knows what could happen. Gives me something to look forward to at the end of the week and that makes me happier so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

(Once again not based on your post. But I feel this forum has a tendency to shoot down fun and hope way too fast. Like I'm just excited Nintendo is live streaming Smash content. That's cool.)
For me at least, I'm not shooting down fun, I'm just being realistic. :p
 

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For me at least, I'm not shooting down fun, I'm just being realistic. :p
And that's fair!

I do think it's intresting that it's the first thing Nintendo is posting about Smash since E3 and the blog obviously.

Unless I'm totally wrong and they did do coverage of the other gaming events Smash was present at but I didn't see any.
 

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All the boys including Wario? If so, i agree. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Well... Wario looks better, at least. His butt has never looked so... HD before. :3

All except shulk, my boy looks really weird for some reason right now. Ike, marth and robin all look bae though
I have not compared, but I thought he looked nice. Maybe it is best I don't compare, then, hah. I am happy to have the more pretty-boy-y version of Ike back, as well. Very glad they gave him that alt 'costume'. Still waiting for Gerudo Link, Wedding Dress Mario and Zero Suit Duck Hunt.

So, do we think the'll randomly drop a new echo fighter in the site or such? Or, should we expect things like that to only be in major video form? It'd just be hype to get a surprise reveal of, like, Dark Samus or whatnot. ^^
 

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Today's Fighter of the Day is Marth. Not K. Rool.

There's a Japan-only Nintendo Livestream about Smash Bros. and Mario Tennis next week (it seems to be a tournament of some kind?), they... might reveal someone then. Time will tell.
People say that at literally every tournament/event with Smash, and it never happens. I would recommend everyone assume it won't happen, and possibly be pleasantly surprised.
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:

Young Link coming back is pretty great. He was easily one of the legit forgotten characters in Smash so it's pretty cool to see him back.

Veteran most excited for? Snake. Easy.
 
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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
I loved how Nana is more expressive this time. It's cute when she reacts to the things Popo does.
 

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And that's fair!

I do think it's intresting that it's the first thing Nintendo is posting about Smash since E3 and the blog obviously.

Unless I'm totally wrong and they did do coverage of the other gaming events Smash was present at but I didn't see any.
Whenever i do say something like, Marx isn't going to be in smash. I always say that It would definitley be really cool. for two reasons.
1. I legitimately think Marx would make a good character.
2. So i don't sound like a complete butt :p

Well... Wario looks better, at least. His butt has never looked so... HD before. :3
Ooh La Wah.

Young Link is definitely the best returning vet.
I see that you have good taste.
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
I'm happy for pretty much all of the previously cut characters, but particularly :ultsnake: and :ultpichu:, I think they brought something to their respective games that hasn't been filled since they were cut.

I would have been much more hype for Ivysaur if Pokémon Trainer's Pokémon weren't still forced to switch on death, would have been a potential secondary even.
 
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If we were to get a character reveal at that japanese tournament i bet that it'll be either Reimu, Saber, Ashley, or K Rool.
 
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Whenever i do say something like, Marx isn't going to be in smash. I always say that It would definitley be really cool. for two reasons.
1. I legitimately think Marx would make a good character.
2. So i don't sound like a complete butt :p



Ooh La Wah.


I see that you have good taste.
You know I had always secretly hoped he'd come back, but knew that would never happen unless toonlink got killed off, but I guess it is true when people say you can't predict Sakurai
 

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I loved how Nana is more expressive this time. It's cute when she reacts to the things Popo does.
I love those details. I also like how they fixed the wobble and such with them (hate things like that), by having her not be able to join in things like that. Tho, apparantly, Nana is no longer playable, I think. :s Or so people said.

I am very excited for most veterans, tho I am most hyped for Squirtle and Ivysaur. Never thought they would both return, I loved them in Brawl.
 
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I highly doubt we are getting a reveal at this tournament.

I think we will probably get a reveal around a Nintendo direct.
 

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Double quotes time!

Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
Of all characters? :ultrob:

Of cut veterans? I'm excited for most of them except Pichu and the other parts of Pokemon Trainer. May well end up playing Young Link to replace Link from Sm4sh.

http://www.nintendolife.com/news/20..._about_competitive_aspect_of_super_smash_bros
Just an instresting article, your thoughts?

Honestly, i kinda agree with Sakurai. For some people, the technicality of the game is fun. but i agree about the prize money part. kinda odd just to get money for playing a game. Your supposed to play the games for fun. not money.
I agree with Sakurai on most of the things I've read about the technicality of the game, but one thing in particular I actually enjoy which most people don't is relatively low hitstun and relatively sparse combos.

The reason is interactivity. In many fighting games, if your opponent starts a combo then there is often categorically nothing you can do but wait until your opponent finishes. Your input doesn't matter. There are few things less enjoyable than getting hit and watching as your character slowly loses and you can't do anything about it.
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
I am pretty excited for Young Link, surprisingly. Wasn't a fan in Melee, and I dislike Tink, but the Classic Link does seem cool. Also Snake, since I thought he didn't fit in Brawl, but I'm excited to see him return.

Still, most excited for? No question.

I'M SO HAPPY SQUIRTLE IS BACK!!!
 

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Well... Wario looks better, at least. His butt has never looked so... HD before. :3


I have not compared, but I thought he looked nice. Maybe it is best I don't compare, then, hah. I am happy to have the more pretty-boy-y version of Ike back, as well. Very glad they gave him that alt 'costume'. Still waiting for Gerudo Link, Wedding Dress Mario and Zero Suit Duck Hunt.

So, do we think the'll randomly drop a new echo fighter in the site or such? Or, should we expect things like that to only be in major video form? It'd just be hype to get a surprise reveal of, like, Dark Samus or whatnot. ^^
I preferred Ike's older version so having both is nice.

Girls also look good. Palutena's render is breath taking.
 

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I feel like the tournament's a way for people in Japan to play the new Smash Bros.; it's not like everybody can go to E3 in order to try the demo.

It would be nice if they made a demo like that available on the eShop, but it would be datamined within a day, and there could very well be something like the material that revealed Ryu's inclusion in Smash 4.
 

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I preferred Ike's older version so having both is nice.

Girls also look good. Palutena's render is breath taking.
Everyone's render is breathtaking xD.


I feel like the tournament's a way for people in Japan to play the new Smash Bros.; it's not like everybody can go to E3 in order to try the demo.

It would be nice if they made a demo like that available on the eShop, but it would be datamined within a day, and there could very well be something like the material that revealed Ryu's inclusion in Smash 4.
Where'd your icon come from? Just curious
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
:ultganondorf:. He looks like so much fun in this game. Like Melee Dorf, but better.

edit: I'm dumb. From the returning fighters, :ultsnake:
 
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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
For me, it's :ultpokemontrainer:.

I always thought a Pokemon Trainer would be the next best rep after Pikachu, so I was ecstatic to see him get in Brawl. Charizard is cool and all, but the whole trainer concept and being able to switch between Pokemon is hands down the best way Sakurai has ever represented the Pokemon franchise on the roster.

I don't care if people think it's impractical. The gimmick is unique and it works so well.
 
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For me, it's :ultpokemontrainer:.

I always thought a Pokemon Trainer would be the next best rep after Pikachu, so I was ecstatic to see him get in Brawl. Charizard is cool and all, but the whole trainer concept and being able to switch between Pokemon is hands down the best way Sakurai has ever represented the Pokemon franchises on the roster.

I don't care if people think it's impractical. The gimmick is unique and it works so well.
Agreed. For my favorite fighters, PKMN Trainers up there
 

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Everyone's render is breathtaking xD.



Where'd your icon come from? Just curious
:ultsnake: and :ultlucina: are the only ones I found a bit weird and even they look good.
M faves are probably :ultrobin and :ultrob:.
 

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Which returning fighter are you most excited for? This is probably an unpopular opinion, but for me it's Young Link. :ultyounglink:
I suppose pichu, so my friends and I can mess around with him again. 4 player pichu matches are the best.
I was excited for young link and snake as well, and pokemon trainer is cool too I guess.
 

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Honestly I am just happy that everyone is back, but I'm not gonna lie: I squealed like a little girl when :ulticeclimbers: and :ultpokemontrainer: showed up in the trailer. I was always indifferent about Snake, and after his reveal plus the "EVERYONE IS HERE" message (and the reveal that Pokemon Trainer is returning), I kinda put 2 and 2 together and figured out that Pichu, Young Link, and Wolf were probably returning, too.
 
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