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By definition none of these would be Echo fighters then. Echo Fighters are pretty clear that generally alot stays the same, especially in terms of specials. Maybe Shadow teleports up instead of uses a Spring but it's got to effectively do the same thing the spring does for Sonic.
I'm not stating absolutes, there are of course always exceptions. Especially as release approaches and more information opens up to more people. But in my experience, most true leaks speak in positive terms of what is in as opposed to what isn't.ChasoZero Leak
"Lucario takes Mewtwo's place" (Mewtwo is not in the game)
NyaseNya Leak
1.) The final roster will have 35 characters on the select screen.
2.) Despite being shown in pre-release materials, Snake and Sonic must be unlocked.
3.) The claims that "no clones" will be included is false, as Falco and Ganondorf are part of the final roster.
4.) Other unlockable veterans are Luigi, Captain Falcon, Ness, Jigglypuff, Marth, and Mr. Game & Watch.
5.) This of course means that Mewtwo, Young Link, Roy, Pichu, and Dr. Mario have been cut.
6.) There are only four more hidden newcomers: Toon Link, Lucario, Wolf (from Star Fox 64) and R.O.B. (shockingly enough).
7.) Ridley and Mega Man will not be included and it's unlikely they'll be included in future installments (in my opinion).
More details from our leaker:
>Aether Paradise is the Pokemon stage, the Ultra Beasts are stage hazards.
>Lor Starcutter is the Kirby Stage
>Shadow's Up B is Mewtwo's Teleport, Shadow's Side B is Chaos Spear which works like Dark Pit's Neutral B
>Greninja's Final Smash is Ash Greninja Shuriken
>Lucario's Final Smash is Aura Storm but he is Mega Lucario Now
I'll make one for Ryu, Corrin & The Inklings.
Shadow, Isabelle, and Ashley all get playable character promotions (echo or not), and as for cutting 5 of them...
Depends on the fighters
Like Yoshi you are a heartless and tax fraud committing monster
I would be more hyped for Dr.Mario than the other three, but Mewtwo was definitely needed for a comeback
Brinstar was in 3DS, it's probably coming back.
I don't really want some fighters to have more colors than others. I think 8 works perfectly for Bowser Jr and the Koopalings as well as 8 Player Smash.
And ULTIMATE Miiverse, where the background is 9-year-olds awkwardly roleplaying with each other as their vampire Mary-Sues.
There's been a lot of bad examples such as making Dixie an Echo of Diddy, but I feel like the worst suggestion for an Echo fighter is without a doubt...
I think he’s talking about the actual Brinstar Depth stage with Kraid in the background (and Brinstar itself was confirmed to return already)
For them maybe, but someone like Little Mac or Mario could use atleast 10 alts (Mario without a Fire Mario alt is wrong, while Little Mac losing 6 alts wouldn’t be bad)
I beat you to your own game.
Brinstar is in this one too.
it's on pictochat; calling it now.
HOT TAKE:
In the interview, all Nate and Bill said is that they share the same general characteristics, but not moves.
I disagree. They should have removed Mario's Waluigi colors in the first place. They never should have been there.
You mean Planet Zebes?
The fact that exists to begin with, and the fact that they decided to remove costumes, but not that one, and the fact that they kept it in place of Wario and Fire, and the fact that they made Luigi's version of it even less accurate than it already was,
Need is a strong word, almost as strong as your bias.
I guess it's compensation. The Green L is pretty dumb though
We do have two examples of Lucina and Dark Pit so far though. And they generally keep the same type of moves. Dark Pit's Side-B is named and somewhat a different item but otherwise acts the same way Pit's Side-B did. Lucina's main difference is she doesn't have a tipper and her moves do the same damage no matter where you hit. But otherwise differences are minuscule other then animations to reflect a character's different personality. I'm not going by just what Nate and Bill said. While it's subject to change, we do have examples in Lucina and Dark Pit in SSB4 and they're not exactly promising when it comes to differences between their counterparts.
My bias for Mario colors that make sense?? Is that really bias?
I'll take that to my grave. Mewtwo is one of my least favorite characters...
Yes (since they’re both called Planet Zebes on the wiki, but treated like a movie title) and No (since Melee also calls the stage Brinstar Depths, so Planet Zebes: Brinstar Depths)
It really is
Since it’s a demo, I really hope they only left out those Mario alts in the demo and not have truly taken them away (like how Ridley still has his Meta alt overall, but not in the demo)
Even though it's likely fake
Saying a color choice should get thrown out for the sake of another is a bias by definition, yes.
Can't imagine the impossible
In many ways Roy is associated with Smash Bros as much as Captain Falcon for some since he debuted in Melee.
Okay. What's your point? Like who cares? I mean, I obviously care about the absurdity of what colors were removed and which ones were kept, but it sounds like you're taking this personally. Like you have a serious attachment to Mario with Waluigi colors.
So you mean big lava rotating stage?
"Because I'm a big fan of Meow Meow Mario."I know the perfect Mario echo.
Might as well go nuts and add these Echoes as well:
