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For me to 100% put backing into a leak and fully trust it, I need video footage of at least one entirely new newcomer fighting a veteran we've seen played at E3/CEO before, so we can compare and tell if this really is the game or if it's just some elaborate fabrication. Although, I will believe things with faaaaarrr less evidence than that purely off of gut feel, because I'm not THAT hard to fool, but objectively I think the above is what we need to really trust one.
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Here's an edited roster of 74, which I think is going to stay my roster for a while. It features 8 unique newcomers and 7 echo fighters, which is probably more than we are going to actually get...oh, well.
Newcomers:
Echoes:
- Ashley & Red Cast A Spell! (Wario) - Ashley and Red are by far the most popular Wario characters, and the two have a set of skills that, unlike some of the other reoccurring Wario cast, could transfer very well into a moveset. Ashley & Red as characters could be based around Ashley casting spells to change the attributes of their opponents, such as making heavier opponents lighter so they're easier to defeat, or making a faster character slower so they're easier to trap. This could be balanced through making the effects of these spells somewhat inconsistent (much like in canon) and only lasting for a short period of time. The fact that Ashley's assist trophy is gone makes me think that she will likely join the battle as a playable fighter.
- Geno Whirls Into Battle! (Mario) - I spoke about Geno on my last post, so I'll just skip to the moveset discussion. Geno is a character based around timing in Super Mario RPG, and I think this could definitely transfer to Smash by making his moves stronger and having additional effects if you follow up your combos in a rhythm. Basically, Geno is a moveset-wide version of Marth's dancing blade, and I think he could be a character who rewards players who are extremely familiar with the game, as he is extremely difficult to master.
- King K. Rool Krushes the Kompetition! (Donkey Kong) - K. Rool's moveset potential is literally endless, as his popularity for all intents and purposes, but his main gimmick of being a heavyweight based on projectiles and trapping rather than brute force already creates a very fascinating idea of a character. Rather than relying on his brute strength (which he does have and will use if he has to, make no mistake), K. Rool should rely on his blunderbuss and other weapons to make the battlefield an utter living hell for every opponent he faces, and not be afraid to use dirty tricks such as playing dead.
- Elma Makes It Double! (Xenoblade) - Also already spoken about Elma, and I think she is the most likely new inclusion out of everyone here. Her dual pistols and blades could make for a very interesting technical character who is focused on changing weapons for a dedicated situation (like starting with the pistols to get an opponent that is far away, and using the blades to finish them off when they're up close).
- Lip Puzzles the Opposition! (Panel de Pon) - A change in retro pick from the previous roster of mine, Lip ended up beating out Mach Rider because we've seen the re-designed Lip's Stick flowers, but not the stick. I think this is because Lip is joining the roster as a playable fighter, and I have a rather cool moveset idea for her. Lip would be the game's lightest character and be easy to defeat, but wield Lip's Stick as her weapon, which, like other games, gradually damaged opponents once flowers are placed on their head, but unlike its other Smash appearances, returns the sapped health to Lip once she attacks again. This causes Lip to be a character who benefits most from being at lower percentages, a stark contrast to the power boost gained by heavyweight characters due to rage at high percentages. Plus, we haven't really had a healing character yet, and Lip could be a great character to use this idea with.
- Ridley Hits the Big Time! (Metroid) - Confirmed.
- Inkling Brings the Paint! (Splatoon) - Confirmed.
- Never Fear, Simon Belmont Is Here! (CastleVania) - Basically confirmed, and could use his whip to make a fun ranged moveset based on grappling opponents and using the iconic weapons from the CastleVania games. Simon could be an utter terror to air fighters due to his sheer range, but perhaps this could be balanced out by somewhat limiting his KO potential? A heavyweight based on whittling opponents down could be another interesting take on the weight, much like K. Rool above him.
- Honorable Mentions: Bandana Dee, Lycanroc, Mach Rider, F-Type, Chorus Men
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- Honorable Mentions:
More than one practice character in Training Mode
Agreed on Stage Builder.
Let us choose/record what attack/s the computers use in training mode so people can finally figure out how to counterplay some things, such as learning how to SDI Bayonetta's Witch Twist combos instead of having to use a human to teach them everything when they might not have any Bayonetta main friends who'll help them out and practice it.
There will be Something new, we know that much.Someone mentioned a pretty nifty idea: What if like how Snake had his Codecs and Pit had Palutena's Guidance-
Little Mac had Doc Louis giving advice a la Punch-Out intermission round cards.
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The ability to select which kind of assist trophies I want to use.
I got a soft spot for those old bonuses. Single player modes have always felt a little hollow without them, you know?
Oooh, that'd be so cool! Please, let that be it!
Would you be okay if it wasn't tailor made to each character like it was for 64?
Who knows. I mean, they slightly existed in Brawl as it gave some end match stats, but 4 had nothing of the sort. It could be just something that took too long to make work well. It's another full mode and has many stats to program, due to how they work. Not simply number of KO's, but how many points for each one. Could be simply "not enough time". 4's own RNG system during Classic might've been the effective replacement for it. I wonder if the actual new versions of "Achievements" Brawl introduced was meant to replace the idea?
That would depend on how well the deigns are. If it's something like Brawl, then I'm not interested
Okay, so this one's takes some splainin'
Oh ****, that means it HAS to be real!
Really? An Echo fighter for MARIO?!! Who would even qualify?
Hmm...
My god, this is dredging up old memories...
The **** is that, a Doug character?
Ever heard kf Brawl in the Family? Eario's one of the few, if any, original characters there. He's also Waluigi's dad iirc
okay so
Here's a crazy idea I had for Classic/Adventure (& maybe All Star) mode trophy unlocks.
Sal Romano from gaming site Gematsu jokingly said he guessed Mega Man, Villager, Wii Fit Trainer, Little Mac, Pac-Man, Miis, Chrom, a Gen 6 Pokemon and Palutena as someone told him those characters would be in Smash. All of these ended up being right except Chrom, who Sal's source told him would be playable and when Robin and Lucina's trailer popped up, he said "Enjoy my boy Shulk" Whether or not Sal's source had legit but outdated information or was always full of **** is hotly debated for some reason
1. Shellfie (Splatoon)
116, according to tehponycorn's list.
Honestly? I think it's impossible to keep count, only one we know for certain was one that called Ridley, Daisy, the title of the game, the release date and Bomberman as an Assist Trophy which we all deemed fake, personally, I called fake the moment I saw the name because Smash Ultimate is a dumb name imo
DaybreakHorizon
really deserves a thread and i commend him for his work on this. Like, I think this will actually be interesting to see once all is said and done.
