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Smash N64, Melee, and Brawl may be able to get away with the realistic gorilla sounds for Donkey Kong, but it felt like an insult knowing that Takashi Nagasako's voice clips were never used for Smash 3DS / Wii U Donkey Kong.
Though there's a major difference.
Funny. But the purpose of the extra loophole with Ridley is so that a smaller, powered-down version of the character can be playable as a fighter.
That's true. The thing on that is if Sakurai and/or the Smash devs want to go for that route on Ridley or not.
True but that'd potentially leave to confusion or disappointment. If they got rid of Dedede in the Dreamland 64 stage to avoid confusion imagine a small Ridley fighting a big Ridley. The disappointment part comes when people think "Oh, this must mean the other cool bosses are playable!"
You shouldn't include ten new characters because then people will expect 20. Weird argument.
Just have Alfonzo take over.
If Ridley's a boss, people will expect other bosses to be made playable. Master Hand for example and having boss fights but only Ridley is a waste of potential.
It could work if there were other bosses. Beating Ridley on a difficult mode or completing some obstacle in the Metroid portion of the Adventure mode would unlock your encounter with clone Ridley in a tube.
You can fight Giga-Bowser as Bowser in Melee.
Yeah. And Bowser's one of, if not THE most iconic video game villain of all time. Ridley's a popular character, sure, but he probably doesn't even scratch the top 50 of most iconic video game villains
That was in response to the argument that fighting Ridley with clone, test-tube Ridley would be awkward. Well, a similar situation already occurred in Smash with Bowser.
If Ridley is not a top 50 VG Villain what is your top 50?
That's true, but Giga Bowser appears as a Final Smash for Bowser, cutting Giga Bowser's strict boss status entirely in later Smash games. It partially clears that awkwardness up since Final Smashes were made possible in Brawl.
Ridley's one of my favourite villains period. But consider the majority of people who play video games. Metroid's always been niche and being popular in the Smash community means jack ****, especially considering Bayonetta surprised the community despite being the most requested character on the ballot
Again, Bowser's such a recognizable character that people who don't play video games know him
It's a shame Sing is now forever tied to Jiggs. Due to her also having Rest it's not ever likely to be balanced to be remotely useful and she'd benefit from it being removed entirely. With such attacks like Disarming Voice and Hyper Voice she doesn't need Sing to be a sound based fighter, but it and Rest are never leaving her moveset due to how iconic they are. Luckily Rollout isn't nearly as strongly associated with her as the other moves are, so hopefully that barely useful move leaves for a nice Fairy move or to hold Sing for a nice recovery special to be added.
Again, Ridley simply isn't major enough to justify being the only non Master Hand boss. Plus, Bowser was already available as a playable character from the moment you booted up Melee
R.O.B. is a major antagonist in Brawl. He was much less well-known than Ridley. There is already enough precedent in Smash, where your argument does not hold much water.
I like where you're going here. Rollout isn't really as iconic as Sing and Rest is to Jigglypuff/Purin and Pound has better horizontal utility, so if Jigglypuff were to have a redesign of special moves, Rollout could be the one to go.
Giga Bowser is a transformation of a character that has already been established as a playable character. The only other bosses in Melee are Master & Crazy hand who clearly aren't transformations.
We don't know if the roster was chosen first or the story other than Sonic, Ridley was the only character to get 2 unique fights and ROB actually helped sell the NES, the video game crash made video games unpopular, and having a robot toy to play on the Entertainment system was brilliant marketing. Oh, and there's 1 Ridley yet many ROBs
Giga Bowser is exclusively a boss. Who, by the way, is fought like a regular character
The playable R.O.B is the Ancient Minister in the Subspace Emissary that joins your team after his fellow robots are destroyed. He is an antagonist that joins your party after you unlock him. He was less known than Ridley.
I've been arguing the same thing, just providing context and adding on to the points. You're being a broken record, especially as games with ROB have sold more than games with Ridley as Ridley, again, is from a niche franchise
Ridley is in Melee and ROB is not. I doubt your claim is true, which would further destroy your point.
I could see any one of Shovel Knight, Crash Bandicoot, Rabbids, Doom Slayer, Dragonborn, or (Konami permitting) Bomberman making it in. Maybe even two of them.
Honestly in terms of 3RD party reps I just want my boys Rayman and Bomberman. No one else I want to be honest other than the pretty much impossible Banjo-Kazooie.
In my viewpoint, I am, for the most part, interested in 3rd parties considerations. The established 3rd parties in Smash still have characters, franchises, and potentially unique qualities not seen before in Smash. We have companies like Ubisoft, perhaps Konami's return, and Zenimax's Bethesda and Id Software for big names that aren't in Smash, yet. Shovel Knight is a breakout indie star that could shine from the rest.
I can see another Namco character as well as Bethesda and Ubisoft characters.
ROB is in Mario Kart DS. That game sold nearly 24 million.
Ridley is in the first two Smashes (unlike ROB) and in the Metroid series, among other cameos like Mii games. Ridley is known, and R.O.B's popularity exploded when he became a playable character in Smash. A playable Ridley would do the same. My hypothetical idea is already based on precedent. You don't even know what you're arguing anymore.ROB is in Mario Kart DS. That game sold nearly 24 million.
Super Smash Bros Melee is at nearly 7.5 million sales.
Do some basic research.
*hint hint*