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But is it fair to classify him as that when the character he was based off of no longer shares some of the moves he was "cloned" off of?
But his down air and down B were/are completely different from Mario's. Because of that, I don't think he ever met the criteria for a dash/echo fighter.
I just thought the same thing, myself, haha.
Then you only strengthen my point.
Someone posited that if you make the Character select screen 12x6 spaces, with the 66 known fighters and the random button, adding seven more fighters would make the CSS a complete rectangle.
The Belmonts are essentially all the same gameplay-wise in the Castlevania series, so I imagine Simon would take all their abilities in his moveset, and there's a strong possibility the other Belmonts are alts, just with Simon as the default (or as the character if there are no alts) because he is the original and most popular.
I just hope their moves are different, at least how they are animated. I don't want Pichu
to be a worse Pikachu , I want Pichu to be the trash joke character.When did you get your 3DS? This is my New (like the gimmicky name) 3DS, I've burned through a 2DS and an old 3DS XL already over the past 5 years, not sure if I really wanna go through the process of another one again.
Japan demo came out September 10 2014 and NA/EU came out on September 19 2014.
Hmm... I got my 3DS for my birthday with Sonic Generations and Mario Kart 7, so... 2011, I think.
But I think the reason they build more off concept than in game moves is often because they lack many in game moves.
So you got the OG one?
Your 3DS is in bad condition though, I have a friend who's had his 3DS since 2011 and the only noticeable flaw is a chipped off part of the side.
A clone can still have a couple or so unique moves (Ganon in Melee had a unique fair and jab and essentially u-tilt, while Pichu had a unique u-smash), "semi-clone" is pretty inaccurate to call someone like Dr. Mario when the character is still 70-90% similar. But a Melee-level clone is also quite distinct from an Echo; compare the Melee clones to Lucina/Dark Pit in Smash 4, and the former have differences in their size/shape, movement specs/physics, and different frame data/hitboxes/damage/knockback values, with a good amount of moves having different functioning even if the animation is the same, and as just pointed out even possibly a couple unique moves. Lucina/Dark Pit on the other hand are identical to their counterparts in their shape/size (Lucina is just a couple pixels shorter, which is completely negligible), identical in movement specs/physics, have the exact same frame data and hitboxes in their attacks (Lucina's tipper hitboxes are just a couple pixels shorter than Marth's, which is again completely negligible), and then all of Lucina's moves function the same (just with consistent strength instead of having a tipper), while all but four of Dark Pit's moves are exactly the same in everything (the exceptions are his jab finisher having a smaller hitbox, his f-tilt having weaker base knockback, his arrows being stronger with less control, his side-b doing electrical damage while being stronger and hitting at a horizontal trajectory, in addition to his finish smash being cloned off of someone else). Lucina/Dark Pit weren't just clones, gameplay-wise they were like 95+% similar and were essentially glorified alts.
As for this, it's just my own personal theory.
Well from what we've seen, the old Melee clone are being treated as Brawl level semis now (Young link keeps all of adult link's old stuff as he gets experimental) and from what we've seen of Daisy, her non- attack animations look different from Peach and even some of the attack ones are subtly different. (She doesn't clench her eyes shut during her toad's counter attack)I just hope their moves are different, at least how they are animated. I don't want Pichu
But isn't it effectively Link's now?
That's because Link's final smash replaces it.
That's fine with me, as long as it doesn't feel like I'm playing a slot waste like in Smash 4...
I have always been extremely careful with my stuff, so the stuff I have rarely breaks, but the mic was the first thing to go; I realized when I tried to replay Apollo Justice and found out I couldn't blow the fingerprinting dust. Such is life.So you got the OG one?
My 2DS bricked (like it won't respond to buttons or the touch screen but it will still turn on) and my 3DS XL top half got obliterated. I've had small issues with my New 3DS but nothing that screams defective until my R button stopped responding normally. It seems like every console I buy has some weird minor flaw in it immediately.
I think Link's is different slightly.
What makes it even more funny is we don't even know if that IS his Final Smash anymore. Unlike Doc and Lucina, we haven't seen Dark Pit's Final Smash yet.
I was never trying to disprove your point lol. I was just pointing out that you were wrong in saying that Dr. Mario was an Echo fighter in Smash 4.
Pokémon technically doesn’t have 10 characters since the
trio attated to strictly count as one character Dark Pit had his final smash shown through one of his pics
Makes sense as only Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Hyrule Warriors Zelda used Light Arrows. Now TP zelda is gone, they got new FS that suit them better (or in Sheik's case, a Ninja better). DP still waves it around in his character art so it could show up.
Which is why I'll eat my own hat if he gets in. Pokemon inclusions are based on Pokemon Company's marketing strategy according to a quote from Sakurai a few 50 pages back in this thread.
But considering the roster was likely decided in 2015, popularity doesn't matter.
But marketing does.
Wario missed Shoulder bash in 4, DK didn't have roll until 4, Sheik doesn't even have harp as taunt, You've already mentioned Dorf, Charizard didn't have seismic toss in Brawl.
Like mentioned above, more well known characters lack or lacked iconic moves or things. While Rool used blunderbuss in one game.
And Greninja showed that even marketing didn't matter too much. Sakurai was the one who picked Greninja, not GameFreak. And considering they allowed Bandai-Namco to use Decidueye for Pokken I highly doubt Decidueye was barred by GameFreak when it came time for Sakurai to pick a Pokémon.
There is one thing Pokken does show us though, which is that, like, people here usually predict that Decidueye in Smash would definitely have an archery based moveset if it gets in... and Pokken proves that it wouldn’t be guaranteed to have an archery based moveset. Yes, it shoots arrows for several attacks, but, how often do you actually see a good Decidueye player just wall out people with arrows in the same way, say, Hawkeye (or one of the actual projectile zoners in Pokken) would? Of course, the way Smash designs movesets is much different than how they’re designed in Pokken, but still.
The problem is, this games planning was done in December 2015. Nearly a full year before Sun/Moon. I don't think popularity polls matter so much here.
Pokemon picks are a complete crapshoot this time around. Last time we could say that a Gen 6 Pokemon would be in (even if we pegged Hawlucha instead) but now, it can be Gen 7, Gen 8 or for all we know Sakurai took inspiration from ORAS instead and we'll get a Gen 3 Pokemon
Yes, his game was one of the games out in time to be considered. Though I'm more banking on an Assist Trophy than playable.
