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I'm actually quite fond of these fan designs, but that's what they are. Fan designs. They're at least inspired by the outfit worn by the actor who played Ninten in the TV commercial for the game, but his actual canon design is literally just Ness but the hat goes the other way.
Again, Colonel's Japanese VA is dead. In Japan at least, they'd have to redo the entire thing if they wanted everyone to get a Codec this time. It would be equity to do the same for English Colonel.
in terms of count because these guys are all the same person.
Does canonicity even matter in Smash at this point? We've had bigger lore departures in moveset and design standpoints.
I'm aware, point is that there is a way to differentiate him if Sakurai ever went through with making him a playable character.
I could understand that with Codecs but not Guidance. The Uprising cast are fine and fit for this, they already did most of these characters already. Why would you even remove them when it's not even that many more dialogue compared to the rest of the cast? At least it's not redoing an entire set.
So you think they won't reuse lines for any of the characters? Or do you think they won't want to reuse lines from a dead person? You're not really being clear here, or maybe you are and I'm just tired and need to go to bed.
I was more comparing the popularity of the two franchises. If we could get Corirn for promotional purposes I don't see any issue with spending development time making Octolings a unique fighter. Probably DLC though.
Dude, if the person is dead, the dead person can't record voice lines. Why would they just get some other guy inbetween and hope nobody notices?
Alright, I think the logic is:
There's a difference between differing from canon and adopting a fan design.
Are ZSS's boots not Smash-made designs that have literally zero basis in lore, in essence, an official fan-design?
I never said they would. I said they can keep all of Colenel's old voice lines, and if they need to make new codec calls they can just feature characters who aren't Colonel. That way Colonel is still represented with his original voice, just don't have the Colonel character in any of the new codec calls.
I'm saying there's a difference between changing a design and adopting a fan design. Smash changes designs all the time. The issue is using a design that's purely fan made as en example of how they character could be changed.
It's not just you, Hikaru Midorikawa does a great job as Marth. Yuri Lowenthal is also not bad but I'm kinda tired of hearing him in everywhere lol.
Yeah, but just not because it's in English.
Corrin actually does stuff that other Fire Emblem characters can't.
So the issue is easily resolved in changing Ninten's design ala ZSS and simply not picking a fanmade one, then?
I wasn't even saying Ninten couldn't be in in the first place, lol. I was just saying the boy scout neckerchief and beret combo is not a design he's ever actually had before.
Personally, I'm used to English Marth at this point. After Fates, Warriors and Heroes, I've grown accustomed to Marth's English voice being Yuri.
Pikachu also speaks Japanese
We haven't got confirmation on Roy's voice yet though, so that might not even be true.
Maybe I'm missing the point, but really I don't see any issue with using a fan design as an example of how it could be changed. It's merely an example in response to a post that asked how he could be differentiated from Ness, not a prediction of what design Sakurai is going to use if he decides to make Ninten a fighter or anything along those lines.
Neither was Roy's in Smash 4. Sure it takes inspiration from both his original appearance and his Awakening design, but it's still a unique design that isn't in any FE game.
Baaaah, no one was actually advocating for a fan design to be made Smash official. We're just saying there's plenty of ways to differentiate similar looking characters and that you can look to fans to see some ways one would do so.
Well I'm more of a hands-on player and I never got the Marth amiibo, played Warriors, or played Heroes, so this is all new to me.
The thing is, there isn't really a big demand or anything for Ninten. I don't know why they would bother for a new design etc.
I don't see why they wouldn't change Roy too. They gave Ike his English voice from Heroes, so it seems certain that they would do the same for Roy.
There really isn't much in the way of demand, but as is, he's way too similar looking to Ness without anything to make him standout against said character.
I wouldn't say upset, but I'll surely miss it.
There's very little demand, especially from an already niche fandom.
Bayonetta speaks Japanese in the JP versions. I see your point though, but I still prefer most of the Japanese voices anyway. Especially Snake. I love Akio Ohtsuka wayyyy more than David Hayter.Pikachu also speaks Japanese
EDIT: But seriously, a few characters speak English in JP version, like Bayonetta or Captain Falcon. I don't know why it's a big deal for English speakers.
People theorize he'll stay in JP because his game is still exclusive to the East.
