Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

[Will]

Great Assist Trophy idea:

The Namco box art girl

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Why not do the same for Capcom?

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I genuinely love this character.

 

[DarkFalcon]

Might be wishful thinking but I want a character reveal each month. It'd be a good way to keep people excited.

 

[ShadowKoopa]

QUESTION:

When do you think we will have news about Smash Bros Ultimate?

I could see a Smash Direct in September or October (maybe earlier if we're lucky) that goes over the modes and stages along with another reveal

 

[StormC]

Ganondorf and Zelda were both playable in Smash before they were playable in their own series. And uh, Roy.

Wii Fit Trainer, Duck Hunt, Palutena, and Ridley are still unplayable in any other capacity.

 

[DMTN]

Mario: Geno
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
Zelda: Skull Kid
Metroid: Sylux
Yoshi: Burt the Bashful
Kirby: Marx
Star Fox: Slippy, I guess.
Pokemon: Buzzwole
Earthbound/Mother: Porky
F-Zero: Black Shadow
Fire Emblem: Black Knight
Kid Icarus: Hades
Wario: Ashley
MGS: -
Sonic: Eggman
Pikmin: Louie
Animal Crossing: Mr. Resetti
Megaman: Tron
Punch Out: Soda Popinski
Xenoblade: Rex
Street Fighter: Cody (I know he's from Final Fight, but still...)
Final Fantasy: Sephiroth
Bayonetta: Rodin
Splatoon: Sheldon

 

[StormC]

I mean to be fair does anyone really want Metroid Go Karting?

Yes.

 

[T-Hell]

I could see a Smash Direct in September or October (maybe earlier if we're lucky) that goes over the modes and stages along with another reveal

Oh yes I would love a Smash Direct that focuses on the modes. I'm kinda eager to know.

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Might be wishful thinking but I want a character reveal each month. It'd be a good way to keep people excited.

That would probably add up to 6 fighter reveals, excluding any echo fighter additions.

 

[Bowserlick]

What archetypes are important enough to be covered by a new character in Smash Ultimate?

example - Speedy (Rushdown) Character: Mach Rider

 

[StrangeMann]

I would prefer Decidueye, but I'd actually be OK with just about any Gen 7 Pokemon.

I like all of the gen 7 pokemon options I see thrown around, and wouldn't actively mind any of them (although Lycanroc is my least favorite out of Mimikyu, Decidueye, and Lycanroc). Despite this, I think all of these pokemon could be given unique movesets and have a fun playstyle, so I'll be happy if we get another pokemon newcomer, no matter who it is, unless it's lazily done.

 

[Sigran101]

I wasn't really hoping for a fire emblem newcomer before but after the three houses trailer I really want Edelgard as dlc. A female axe fighter. Would add much needed variety to the fire emblem cast.

 

[Will]

Yes.

no anthony no buy

 

[StrangeMann]

no anthony no buy

For real, Anthony Higgs was the only redeeming story element of Other M.
The rest of the story arc either doesn't make sense chronologically or is poorly written.
But the way Anthony Higgs was handled was pretty good, and he's one of the few prominent African american Nintendo characters in general.
I hope Other M's reception doesn't prevent him from reappearing in future metroid titles.

 

[Idon]

I hope Smash 5 tones down the amount of dumb modes that no one plays. Smash Tour might be the biggest flop to ever be heavily marketed.

 

[ErenJager]

I hope Smash 5 tones down the amount of dumb modes that no one plays. Smash Tour might be the biggest flop to ever be heavily marketed.

There is one thing from Smash Tour they should use... and that's the mode at the end of it!

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Two things;

Please don't respond to posts from 4 days back, especially a crapload of pages back too.

Please keep it civil.

And a third, because why not; please report posts if you find them problemsome instead of responding. It's easier to deal with that way.

 

[DYED]

What archetypes are important enough to be covered by a new character in Smash Ultimate?

example - Speedy (Rushdown) Character: Mach Rider

I still think we need more long-range caster/zoner type characters, because the one that are in are usually extremely low tier and forgettable, the only exception being Link.
The major example however is Zelda, which is getting tweaked, which is good, but I still think we need more characters of that type.

 

[SlickWylde]

I hope Smash 5 tones down the amount of dumb modes that no one plays. Smash Tour might be the biggest flop to ever be heavily marketed.

What about that dumb Subspice Emishary mode they put in Brawl that nobody cares about?


/s

 

[MainJPW]

So just for fun, if each represented franchise were to get one more representative, who would you pick?

Mario: Captain Toad
Yoshi: Kamek
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool
WarioWare Inc: Ashley
Zelda: Tetra
Metroid: Dark Samus
Kirby: Bandana Dee
Star Fox: Krystal
F-zero: Black Shadow. I want to replicate this:

Mother: Masked Man
Fire Emblem: Lyn
Kid Icarus: Viridi
Animal Crossing: Bill Trinen's wife.

Xenoblade: Raiden
Sonic: Tails
Mega Man: Proto Man
Street Fighter: Chun Li
Final Fantasy: Sephiroth
Bayonetta: Rodin
Splatoon: Octolings
Konami: Simon Belmont

 

[blackghost]

He is, but did he dominate Injustice (GaU and 2), MVCI and DBFZ to the extent ZeRo did for Smash 4? I know Sonic is good, but I don't think he knows what he's getting into if he's going up against ZeRo, of all people, in a Smash game.

he has dominated soulcalbur 5 to that level and marvel infinite in its brief time. he is the only player ive ever seen be king of multiple games that are in different sub genres and his dominance of soulcalibur 5 was worse than zero of smash 4. id argue his dominance in mortal kombat x and injustice 2 were worse becuase smash 4 community doesnt do a lot of necessary reasearch to learn and adapt. those other communities do and it didnt matter.
no he's never played a smash game competitively but his abillity to attack a persons head outside the game is incredible. zeros biggest weakness is that he gets flustered. also keep in mind if zero doesnt win a first to ten by at least 7 thats not a win to me. if this is even SOMEWHAT close (assuming it happens) its a black mark on the smash 4/ ultimate community.

 

[-crump-]

Speaking of different modes, I seriously want to see a remastered Smash Run. If they included different levels, the ability to see and team up with other players, and online functionality, I honestly think it might be the best mode of any Smash game to date.

The idea was so good, but it just couldn’t flourish in the weak little 3DS.

 

[RodNutTakin]

The only mode I need is Smash Run 2

...or a Melee/3DS style Classic mode.

 

[ErenJager]

The game modes will make or break this game...

Smash 4, lacked modes very badly.

 

[Murlough]

Yeah I like Mimikyu but I'm expecting a Pokeball of it 50 times more than an actual playable character. Or any Pokemon this time, for that matter.

Yeah, when going down the list of issues with Mimikyu getting in I neglected the one where no Pokemon newcomer gets in at all. That seems like a very real possibility this time around but I'll keep my hopes up anyway. Worst case scenario theres DLC to look forward to.

 

[Captain Shwampy]

God just add adventure mode from melee and break the targets

Idk why we got angry birds with bombs and watered down mario party last time

 

[GaroMaster]

Given Ultimate is placing more emphasis on the competitive side of Smash, I would not put it past Sakurai to put in a reworked Training mode with more customization.
Granted, I don't think they'll go as far as show frame data, but then again, I did not think Sakurai was going to put much stock into the competitive Smash community's wants and listen to them, so I could be wrong.

 

[Will]

The only mode I need is Smash Run 2

I honestly loved Smash Run, just thought it would need some more improvements and interactivity to not be so repetitive.
Maybe instead of KO-ing Sonic in a fight, you have to beat him in one of those Races from Smash Run to unlock him. Something creative!

 

[Super Flygon]

QUESTION:

When do you think we will have news about Smash Bros Ultimate?

I'm thinking they'll do something similar to what they did in 2015.

General Nintendo Direct in September with at least one newcomer shown (could be two if they do something like K. Rool & Dixie in a trailer), followed by a Smash Bros. Direct in October. The SSB Direct would have at least 2 newcomer trailers, much like the SSB Presentations in June & December 2015.

After that, probably nothing major until launch. I do wonder if any newcomers will be saved for us to find on our own.

 

[ErenJager]

I need new stock - new character game mode.
I need online stock matches. (with strangers for glory & fun)
I need an adventure mode, even melee style will do...
I need a classic version of classic mode...

 

[Playcube]

Do you Think that Ashley,Shadow the Hedgehog,and Dillon be in Super Smash bros Ultimate.

Reason:There are not Confirmed as Assist Trophies

 

[FantasticMr.StarPit]

I'll share of who I would like to see; even if we're limited to only 6-8 newcomers.

Mario: Honestly, none at this point; I share no care for Captain Toad. And Waluigi is an assist trophy. Wah!

Donkey Kong: King K. Rool (The croc finally has the shot)

Zelda: I suppose Impa but I think the Zelda cast is already good as is. (Please no Tingle)

Metroid: With Ridley out of the way, I think its all good with the Metroid characters. Sylux is just a bonus.

Kirby: Eh, whoever's interesting. Bandana Dee is likely, but I don't see it right now.

Star Fox: Slippy & Peppy so that we'll have the original Star Fox crew in battle, just like the good times.

Earthbound: I guess Porky; he's interesting.

F-Zero: We could've had Samurai Goroh, but he's out of the park as an assist trophy. Honestly none at this point.

Fire Emblem: The roster is fine; no need to add more unless DLC comes in.

Kid Icarus: Viridi or Medusa(Another classic Nintendo villain please); I was going for Hades, and I'm still holding onto Hades, but he fits more as a trash talker than a fighter.

Wario: I guess Ashley.

MGS: I don't think the franchise needs another character imo.

Sonic: Same with MGS.

Rest I don't care about or is just not possible imo.

 

[Playcube]

Dillon Could be a Semi Clone or Echo Clone of Sonic.

Except his Final Smash is Completely Different

 

[ErenJager]

Do you Think that Ashley,Shadow the Hedgehog,and Dillon be in Super Smash bros Ultimate.

Reason:There are not Confirmed as Assist Trophies

We know of about 30 of the 50 assist trophies.
Fair to say we could see many previous ones returning as assists, but it wouldn't surprise me if atleast one made it to playable status.
Or if others were cut completely.

 

[Playcube]

I'm Little bit of Surprised that Bomberman is a Assist Trophy not a Fighter.

At Least Rayman is not a Assist Trophy like Bomberman

 

[Mario & Sonic Guy]

Do you Think that Ashley,Shadow the Hedgehog,and Dillon be in Super Smash bros Ultimate.

Reason:There are not Confirmed as Assist Trophies

There's always the possibility that some Assist Trophies from past Smash Bros. installments will be cut from the game entirely. Not all of Brawl's Assist Trophies made it back into Smash 3DS / Wii U after all.

 

[Will]

At Least Rayman is not a Assist Trophy like Bomberman

Yeah, he's not in the game at all.

 

[Dragoncharystary]

Do you Think that Ashley,Shadow the Hedgehog,and Dillon be in Super Smash bros Ultimate.

Reason:There are not Confirmed as Assist Trophies

All are definite possibilities, though Shadow is the only one I'm very confident in.

 

[RandomAce]

A mode I’m surprised isn’t in Smash yet.

How about a King of the Hill mode? One spot on the stage becomes the hill, and the person who stayed on the hill the longest wins.

Seeing how Smash is a platform fighter, it’s perfect for Smash, especially on the big stages like Great Cave Offensive and Palutena’s Temple.

 

[RileyXY1]

All are definite possibilities, though Shadow is the only one I'm very confident in.

There's also Ashley, Dark Samus, and Isabelle. Especially Dark Samus, because Samus's Dark Samus based alt was mysteriously removed.

 

[GaroMaster]

I'm Little bit of Surprised that Bomberman is a Assist Trophy not a Fighter.

At Least Rayman is not a Assist Trophy like Bomberman

I kind of doubt Rayman would be an AT since Ubisoft does not have a fighter yet, unlike Konami.
Honestly, if Rayman does get in, I could see the Rabbids getting in as an AT or an enemy in Smash Run 2.