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Official Smash Ultimate Discussion

Almost one month has passed since release. In retrospect....

  • This is by far the best Smash ever. Like, I don't even know how they will top this.

  • Pretty freakin' good; I have a few qualms over things like internet play, balancing issues, etc.

  • It's ok, but [insert Smash game here] is better.

  • I'd rather play Parcheesi.

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Shroob said:
Is Platinum really owned by Sega? I saw that they partnered with Sega for a few years, but that partnership ended awhile ago,
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Dunno if Platinum is owned by Sega, but I believe the two companies co-own Bayonetta. Don't quote me on that though
 
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Lampy said:
There's always a chance that he could have more alts in the full game.
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It's rather hard to say at this point. For the most part, I think that most fighters will still be plagued with having only 8 palettes total. This is especially disturbing for Bowser Jr., since I was hoping that he'd get his own set of recolors, while the Koopalings are an extra bonus.
 
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92MilesPrower said:
There's also the off chance that it could be Mach Rider for our new retro rep.
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I doubt Mach Rider would use a gun, Captain Falcon doesn't use his. Also remember no character is using a realistic gun. Snake has no gun and Bayo's are magic.
 
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Got as far as page 1134 I think before E3 happened. Chose to skip to the most recent discussion since there's no point being that far back and reading hype for an event that's already happened and people wondering if Ridley will be in when we now know he is :p

Not too big a fan of the starting roster being just the original 8 or 12 since I've been pretty hit or miss with them. I like Link in 64, Melee and PM but not in Brawl or Sm4sh. I've always been able to use Mario but he's painfully boring in Sm4sh. Haven't liked Falcon or Fox after 64. Only liked Pika and Yoshi in Brawl and I've never been a huge fan of the others. Probably gonna focus on Fox and Link since I imagine those 2 will unlock Falco, Wolf, the other Links and Ganon faster.

Speaking of other Links, any ideas what Young Link's final smash will be? He's a bit of a hodgepodge between OoT and MM Yink, right? If so, I can see Fierce Diety Link being it. Go figure, that alt for Link is gone I believe. Not that that means anything since you can have Samus and ZSS fight and if ZSS gets the final smash, she equips the power suit. Actually, I wonder if the colour of the power suit will change depending on what outfit ZSS has. Also, it's kinda funny how if ZSS and Ridley fight, you can have Ridley use his final smash and blow up her ship and then it can come back fully repaired in ZSS'.

Any speculation so far on what differences Daisy will have from Peach? Animations and frame data should be the same as should movement specs. Range could be different since Marth and Lucina had slightly different range.

Took 4 games for Ganondorf to use a sword in his default moveset and 5 games for Link to get sword beams and kinda Ike too (fully charged Eruption) and yet Bayo gets all sorts of source material in her first appearance and it ends up making her OP :rolleyes: Happy about the Ganon changes anyways although fsmash and usmash look borrowed from Ike and dsmash from Cloud. Also OoT design is way better than TP. Glad Zelda has a brunette outfit to still reference her TP design though. Link's non BotW outfit looks awful. So does Yink's dark link outfit, just like every other black Zelda character outfit. Love seeing Wolf back and his design is nice. Also love that MK's Galacta Knight outfit has a pink sword and the proper mask. He might even have angel wings with it :o

Kinda odd how they show DK's new final smash and then Mac's right after since it shows how similar they are. Bowser and Pit now share similar final smashes too and it's just a glorified Dragoon now. Funny enough, Zelda and Sheik getting new final smashes means Dark Pit's is more unique since he at best shares it with Link now.

Any ideas on what Snake's codecs will be on Shadow Moses? Plenty of new faces and certain ones wouldn't make sense like him asking what happened to Zelda for Sheik, being asked if he knows who Mario is along with the 'once in a lifetime chance' line and I wanna say the Link codec mentioned his green attire. Could be wrong on that though. They could always take out the codecs or pull the Palutena Temple DLC route and have one codec for every character that wasn't in Brawl.

Think those are all of my thoughts for now, messy as they came out. Actually, last thing: I get it easy :3 my birthday is the day before the game comes out so I can just ask for enough money to get the game as a gift.
 
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I might be in the minority but I prefer a Melee style Adventure mode over a new Subspace. Mainly because producing all those CGI scenes must take a lot of time to make. If that time can be put in some other mode I'd take that any day.
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If they hire a company to do it like they did with the character trailers I think it would not take a lot of work.
Most work would be spent making the levels.
 
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PLATINUM7 said:
Original article
http://news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/shuno_sakurai

Sakurai, "I bought a figure of Biffer before this. It is an old robot animation. That does not mean that it is a short-circuited story that it is making a game of "Galaxy Drifting Bifam". I wanted the attached rifle to make it a reference to my work."
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Sure, but why would he want the rifle for reference?

Geno's is built into his arm.
So are Ray's.

It's a rifle meant to be wielded by a giant mech. He doesn't need the mech for reference. Monolithsoft would provide the model of Elma's Skell. But he could use the rifle and post the figurine around with it.
 
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Sure, but why would he want the rifle for reference?

Geno's is built into his arm.
So are Ray's.

It's a rifle meant to be wielded by a giant mech. He doesn't need the mech for reference. Monolithsoft would provide the model of Elma's Skell. But he could use the rifle and post the figurine around with it.
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I think the option that makes the most sense to me is that it was a reference for some sort of boss character he created himself. It does not make any sense if the character already exists.
 
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Jetsurge said:
I doubt Mach Rider would use a gun, Captain Falcon doesn't use his. Also remember no character is using a realistic gun. Snake has no gun and Bayo's are magic.
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Falcon used his gun in the comic once and just gave it to Ryu to use in the anime. Not in the games does he use it, it's just there for decoration.

EDIT: If you think I mean like the Street Fighter Ryu the main character of the anime's name is Ryu. :072:
 
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I wonder if “66” on the Smash website means there are 66 slots so far.

“Pokémon Trainer counts as one; number includes Echo Fighters”

I’m assuming that means Mii Fighters don’t count as one and now have their own slots.

  1. :4mario:
  2. :4dk:
  3. :4link:
  4. :4samus:
  5. :4yoshi:
  6. :4kirby:
  7. :4fox:
  8. :4pikachu:
  9. :4luigi:
  10. :4ness:
  11. :4falcon:
  12. :4jigglypuff:
  13. :4peach:
  14. :4peach: Daisy
  15. :4bowser:
  16. :popo:
  17. :4sheik:
  18. :4zelda:
  19. :4drmario:
  20. :pichumelee:
  21. :4falco:
  22. :4marth:
  23. :4lucina:
  24. :younglinkmelee:
  25. :4ganondorf:
  26. :4mewtwo:
  27. :4feroy:
  28. :4gaw:
  29. :4metaknight:
  30. :4pit:
  31. :4darkpit:
  32. :4zss:
  33. :4wario:
  34. :snake:
  35. :4myfriends:
  36. :pt::squirtle::ivysaur::4charizard:
  37. :4diddy:
  38. :4lucas:
  39. :4sonic:
  40. :4dedede:
  41. :4olimar:
  42. :4lucario:
  43. :4rob:
  44. :4tlink:
  45. :wolf:
  46. :4villager:
  47. :4megaman:
  48. :4wiifit:
  49. :rosalina:
  50. :4littlemac:
  51. :4greninja:
  52. :4miibrawl:
  53. :4miisword:
  54. :4miigun:
  55. :4palutena:
  56. :4pacman:
  57. :4robinm:
  58. :4shulk:
  59. :4bowserjr:
  60. :4duckhunt:
  61. :4ryu:
  62. :4cloud:
  63. :4corrin:
  64. :4bayonetta:
  65. :substitute: Inkling
  66. :substitute: Ridley

Assuming there are 12 character slots per row... we might get about 72 slots in total. Sakurai did say not to expect too many newcomers in this game.

:4mario::4dk::4link::4samus::4yoshi::4kirby::4fox::4pikachu::4luigi::4ness::4falcon::4jigglypuff:
:4peach::4peach::4bowser::popo::4sheik::4zelda::4drmario::pichumelee::4falco::4marth::4lucina::younglinkmelee:
:4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4metaknight::4pit::4darkpit::4zss::4wario::snake::4myfriends::pt:
:4diddy::4lucas::4sonic::4dedede::4olimar::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::4villager::4megaman::4wiifit:
:rosalina::4littlemac::4greninja::4miibrawl::4miisword::4miigun::4palutena::4pacman::4robinm::4shulk::4bowserjr::4duckhunt:
:4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute:

Could we possibly have only 9 newcomers? We have 3 so far... Inkling, Daisy, and Ridley. We could possibly get only 6 more newcomers.

How many months are there before Smash Ultimate comes out? 6 months!

July newcomer
August newcomer
September newcomer
October newcomer
November newcomer
December newcomer

Oh wait... I forgot about the Random slot. I guess it could be only 5 more newcomers. No December newcomer since the game comes out at the end of the first week anyway. Maybe we could have only 8 newcomers in total. Yeah, better to keep our expectations very, very low this time.
 
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Arcadenik said:
I wonder if “66” on the Smash website means there are 66 slots so far.

“Pokémon Trainer counts as one; number includes Echo Fighters”

I’m assuming that means Mii Fighters don’t count as one and now have their own slots.

  1. :4mario:
  2. :4dk:
  3. :4link:
  4. :4samus:
  5. :4yoshi:
  6. :4kirby:
  7. :4fox:
  8. :4pikachu:
  9. :4luigi:
  10. :4ness:
  11. :4falcon:
  12. :4jigglypuff:
  13. :4peach:
  14. :4peach: Daisy
  15. :4bowser:
  16. :popo:
  17. :4sheik:
  18. :4zelda:
  19. :4drmario:
  20. :pichumelee:
  21. :4falco:
  22. :4marth:
  23. :4lucina:
  24. :younglinkmelee:
  25. :4ganondorf:
  26. :4mewtwo:
  27. :4feroy:
  28. :4gaw:
  29. :4metaknight:
  30. :4pit:
  31. :4darkpit:
  32. :4zss:
  33. :4wario:
  34. :snake:
  35. :4myfriends:
  36. :pt::squirtle::ivysaur::4charizard:
  37. :4diddy:
  38. :4lucas:
  39. :4sonic:
  40. :4dedede:
  41. :4olimar:
  42. :4lucario:
  43. :4rob:
  44. :4tlink:
  45. :wolf:
  46. :4villager:
  47. :4megaman:
  48. :4wiifit:
  49. :rosalina:
  50. :4littlemac:
  51. :4greninja:
  52. :4miibrawl:
  53. :4miisword:
  54. :4miigun:
  55. :4palutena:
  56. :4pacman:
  57. :4robinm:
  58. :4shulk:
  59. :4bowserjr:
  60. :4duckhunt:
  61. :4ryu:
  62. :4cloud:
  63. :4corrin:
  64. :4bayonetta:
  65. :substitute: Inkling
  66. :substitute: Ridley

Assuming there are 12 character slots per row... we might get about 72 slots in total. Sakurai did say not to expect too many newcomers in this game.

:4mario::4dk::4link::4samus::4yoshi::4kirby::4fox::4pikachu::4luigi::4ness::4falcon::4jigglypuff:
:4peach::4peach::4bowser::popo::4sheik::4zelda::4drmario::pichumelee::4falco::4marth::4lucina::younglinkmelee:
:4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4metaknight::4pit::4darkpit::4zss::4wario::snake::4myfriends::pt:
:4diddy::4lucas::4sonic::4dedede::4olimar::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::4villager::4megaman::4wiifit:
:rosalina::4littlemac::4greninja::4miibrawl::4miisword::4miigun::4palutena::4pacman::4robinm::4shulk::4bowserjr::4duckhunt:
:4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute:

Could we possibly have only 9 newcomers? We have 3 so far... Inkling, Daisy, and Ridley. We could possibly get only 6 more newcomers.

How many months are there before Smash Ultimate comes out? 6 months!

July newcomer
August newcomer
September newcomer
October newcomer
November newcomer
December newcomer

Oh wait... I forgot about the Random slot. I guess it could be only 5 more newcomers. No December newcomer since the game comes out at the end of the first week anyway. Maybe we could have only 8 newcomers in total. Yeah, better to keep our expectations very, very low this time.
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Isn't it funny people forget that the random select button exists? :090: I wouldn't be too trusting of the whole thing, who knows what daddy Sakurai would pull on us. He may just leave the bottom row disjointed on purpose.
 
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Arcadenik said:
I wonder if “66” on the Smash website means there are 66 slots so far.

“Pokémon Trainer counts as one; number includes Echo Fighters”

I’m assuming that means Mii Fighters don’t count as one and now have their own slots.

  1. :4mario:
  2. :4dk:
  3. :4link:
  4. :4samus:
  5. :4yoshi:
  6. :4kirby:
  7. :4fox:
  8. :4pikachu:
  9. :4luigi:
  10. :4ness:
  11. :4falcon:
  12. :4jigglypuff:
  13. :4peach:
  14. :4peach: Daisy
  15. :4bowser:
  16. :popo:
  17. :4sheik:
  18. :4zelda:
  19. :4drmario:
  20. :pichumelee:
  21. :4falco:
  22. :4marth:
  23. :4lucina:
  24. :younglinkmelee:
  25. :4ganondorf:
  26. :4mewtwo:
  27. :4feroy:
  28. :4gaw:
  29. :4metaknight:
  30. :4pit:
  31. :4darkpit:
  32. :4zss:
  33. :4wario:
  34. :snake:
  35. :4myfriends:
  36. :pt::squirtle::ivysaur::4charizard:
  37. :4diddy:
  38. :4lucas:
  39. :4sonic:
  40. :4dedede:
  41. :4olimar:
  42. :4lucario:
  43. :4rob:
  44. :4tlink:
  45. :wolf:
  46. :4villager:
  47. :4megaman:
  48. :4wiifit:
  49. :rosalina:
  50. :4littlemac:
  51. :4greninja:
  52. :4miibrawl:
  53. :4miisword:
  54. :4miigun:
  55. :4palutena:
  56. :4pacman:
  57. :4robinm:
  58. :4shulk:
  59. :4bowserjr:
  60. :4duckhunt:
  61. :4ryu:
  62. :4cloud:
  63. :4corrin:
  64. :4bayonetta:
  65. :substitute: Inkling
  66. :substitute: Ridley

Assuming there are 12 character slots per row... we might get about 72 slots in total. Sakurai did say not to expect too many newcomers in this game.

:4mario::4dk::4link::4samus::4yoshi::4kirby::4fox::4pikachu::4luigi::4ness::4falcon::4jigglypuff:
:4peach::4peach::4bowser::popo::4sheik::4zelda::4drmario::pichumelee::4falco::4marth::4lucina::younglinkmelee:
:4ganondorf::4mewtwo::4feroy::4gaw::4metaknight::4pit::4darkpit::4zss::4wario::snake::4myfriends::pt:
:4diddy::4lucas::4sonic::4dedede::4olimar::4lucario::4rob::4tlink::wolf::4villager::4megaman::4wiifit:
:rosalina::4littlemac::4greninja::4miibrawl::4miisword::4miigun::4palutena::4pacman::4robinm::4shulk::4bowserjr::4duckhunt:
:4ryu::4cloud::4corrin::4bayonetta::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute::substitute:

Could we possibly have only 9 newcomers? We have 3 so far... Inkling, Daisy, and Ridley. We could possibly get only 6 more newcomers.

How many months are there before Smash Ultimate comes out? 6 months!

July newcomer
August newcomer
September newcomer
October newcomer
November newcomer
December newcomer

Oh wait... I forgot about the Random slot. I guess it could be only 5 more newcomers. No December newcomer since the game comes out at the end of the first week anyway. Maybe we could have only 8 newcomers in total. Yeah, better to keep our expectations very, very low this time.
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You're forgetting hidden characters. If we end up getting a reveal every month, then add a two or three to that number and that's how many we would likely have.
 
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You're forgetting hidden characters. If we end up getting a reveal every month, then add a two or three to that number and that's how many we would likely have.
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Hidden characters? I think all the characters not in Smash 64 are the hidden characters.
 
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Been saying that a newcomer a month seems logical. That would put us at 8 newcomers for this game, while giving us something to keep us on our toes until the game drops in December monthly.
 
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It just hit me that with the vast majority of the roster being unlockable, we're gonna have around 60 or slightly more characters to unlock, and that's a huge number. They definitely need to get creative with single player modes and methods to unlock everyone with. Can we actually see 10 Man Smash and 3 Minute Smash actually be worthwhile to do? If a character is locked behind 15 Minute Smash though...
 
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92MilesPrower said:
It just hit me that with the vast majority of the roster being unlockable, we're gonna have around 60 or slightly more characters to unlock, and that's a huge number. They definitely need to get creative with single player modes and methods to unlock everyone with. Can we actually see 10 Man Smash and 3 Minute Smash actually be worthwhile to do? If a character is locked behind 15 Minute Smash though...
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wait 15 minutes for sonic :4pacman:
 
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92MilesPrower said:
It just hit me that with the vast majority of the roster being unlockable, we're gonna have around 60 or slightly more characters to unlock, and that's a huge number. They definitely need to get creative with single player modes and methods to unlock everyone with. Can we actually see 10 Man Smash and 3 Minute Smash actually be worthwhile to do? If a character is locked behind 15 Minute Smash though...
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What if they will make you beat 20 opponents in cruel man smash in order to unlock Sonic and Tails as his Echo fighter this time around?

:troll:
 
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What if they will make you beat 20 opponents in cruel man smash in order to unlock Sonic this time around?

:troll:
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Don't remind me how aggravated I was trying to complete the Cruel Smash challenges in Smash 4, Cruel Smash is definitely my least favorite of the Multi Man Smash modes. At least Duck Hunt (both stage and character) only required 1 KO in Cruel Smash...
 
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92MilesPrower said:
Don't remind me how aggravated I was trying to complete the Cruel Smash challenges in Smash 4, Cruel Smash is definitely my least favorite of the Multi Man Smash modes. At least Duck Hunt (both stage and character) only required 1 KO in Cruel Smash...
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It's a callback to that one april fools rumour from Melee.

I don't think they will make you beat 20 opponents to unlock anything (At least, nothing of much value) in Cruel Smash.
 
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It just hit me that with the vast majority of the roster being unlockable, we're gonna have around 60 or slightly more characters to unlock, and that's a huge number. They definitely need to get creative with single player modes and methods to unlock everyone with. Can we actually see 10 Man Smash and 3 Minute Smash actually be worthwhile to do? If a character is locked behind 15 Minute Smash though...
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This game is probably gonna be a completionist nightmare in general.
 
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I thought it would be a cool thing to have some of the unlock methods be the same ones that were used in the previous games...

....but then I remembered Mewtwo and I was like "you know what, never mind".
 
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Impa wouldn't even be that hard to do since there's like no consistent appeara. They could just mak
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What do you mean? The leak was posted after E3 which means the creator was late to the party. The date is 06/16/18(Sat)

You got fooled. Ha ha ha...;)
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let me say this slowly.
IT
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And it completely flew over your head
 
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