Smash Bros. Mafia - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in the Subspace Emissary?

[Nicholas1024]

Man, don't be so harsh Meta-kirby. There's two possibilities running through my mind.

1)He's scum, and he quick-hammered to prevent more discussion, in which case it's a good move on his part, as he was basically certain to be lynched today anyway. Marshy did the same thing in Wonderland mafia.

2)He's town, in which case this was a big mistake. SSBF, when you're town, never hammer yourself. Town could have used the extra discussion, seen your stances, your claim, etc. before you died. Don't self-hammer as town. Just don't.

 

[M.K]

And?

It's a cheap move as scum, and a pitiful move as town. Either way, it's ungrateful to town.

I hope you can understand my frustration.

 

[Nicholas1024]

I understand. Reminds me of how Ronike reprimanded me after I self-hammered to end his mafia game. He was not happy...

 

[Rockin]

Oy, MK...calm down. I understand you getting frustrated, but please calm down man.

So I come back from work and I see someone self-lynch themself. hm.

SSBF, I want to first say that, in future games, you NEVER EVER EVER self vote, even if you're possibly caught in the act. In a mafia game, you never know WHAT's going to happen. Self voting is not a way to do things, sir. It doesn't help town. Nor does it help scum buddies.

If you claimed something legit, then we probably would've consider you not much of a need of a lynch. Sometimes, claims actually save people from a lynch you know.

if anything, it's best if you wait till a game is over to get a review of how you done. Just, in the future. don't self vote. Please. It's un-sportsman like.



also, since you're lynched and all, you may as well tell us who your character was and if you're a vanilla or w/e. >_>;;

 

[Kirbyoshi]

SSBF, if you were town, just for future reference, NEVER self-vote. It does no good for town whatsoever, and even a vanilla claim could save you (it's saved me once or twice).

If you're scum, I would encourage you to develop your own opinion about whether you should do it or not. You have read arguments here that hammering yourself as scum could be a)smart, because it limits discussion; b)dumb, because you never know what's going to happen; or c)a cheap play that probably should not even cross any scum's mind, because it's so unsportsmanlike. Think about where these three opinions are coming from, and choose which one you agree with.

Also, please don't listen to MK's recent posts. He's frustrated with you, yes, but just as Fatchu probably shouldn't take what you said to him too much to heart, so you should not take what MK just said too much to heart.

 

[Deleted member]

I kind of agree with MK that correcting the mod every single time and that comment against fatchu just weren't nice at all.

but I'm not the type that gets angry over the internet so I kind of ignored it.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Vote count

Paprikakiller(1): Clownbot
SSBF(6): Kirbyoshi, Meta-kirby, Chibicat, Nicholas, Paprika killer, SSBF
Nicholas(1): Rockin
Not voting: Bunglefever, Vrael

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch!

While everyone is talking about who to get rid of, SSBF looks around. He stealthily creeps away from everyone.....But then someone grabs him by the neck. It is Meta-Kirby. "Thought you could get away from us didn't you?" he said. SSBF then tries to KO Meta-Kirby, but to no avail. Everyone else comes running to help MK. Captain falcon once again comes out of nowhere. FALCOON PUNCH! SSBF turns into a trophy and flies far away.

SSBF, Bowser

(Mafia goon), has been lynched!

Deadline for night actions is March 27 Noon.​

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[SwordsRbroken]

You all wake up. After a long and boring role call, you find that Nicholas is missing! Everyone rushes throughout the camp, and they eventually find Nicholas' body. He had apparently been killed by some sort of explosion.

Nicholas1024, Pit

(Vanilla townie), has been killed during the night!

Deadline is the last second of April 6 EST. ​

 

[Nicholas1024]

The fight is on, but it goes on without me. Good luck town!

Swords, you forgot to change the thread title again.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Oh, and I'll serve as an emergency replacement if needed.

 

[Clownbot]

Lot of new info to process here. I'll have to reread later but my initial reaction is to look at the people who didn't vote SSBF and perhaps Kirbyoshi as well. Less suspicious of TPK after he put SSBF at L-1.

 

[Clownbot]

Well for now I'll Vote Junglefever because you haven't really done anything since D1.

Still may need to look over some old posts. I did reread a bit and I am looking at Jungle most so far. Iirc, on D1 he pointed at SSBF a few times but he never went so far as to vote him, granted most people were looking at Fatchu then but still.

 

[M.K]

My suspicions are Rockin, Vrael, and Bungle.
Doing a re-read to determine which of those three was the most anti-SSBF lynch.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Rockin is the obvious choice for voting Nich imo, but it could be the same thing as what happened last night where Ryker got killed and lots of people went after me.

So yeah, I might look into him.

 

[Deleted member]

meh, just looked back at rockin's reasoning behind his vote and it wasn't really a good one.
it comes down to that he dislikes nicholas for the claim thing and the bad excuses nicholas later made for it.

after that they just went back and forth with the usual "I didn't say"that" stuff.

rockin is at PAx though so we won't hear from him before monday.
Will try to do an actual serious reread before that.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

No one seemed to get past the claim thing, eh. I didn't see at as such a huge deal like some other people did.

Rockin, what are your thoughts?

 

[Deleted member]

lol, vrael I just said he's gone until monday

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Lol I'm not very smart sometimes. I'll ask again when he gets back.

 

[SwordsRbroken]

Vote Count

Junglefever(1): Clownbot

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

Jungle has until tomorrow at noon EST to post before i replace/modkill him.​

 

[Kirbyoshi]

So then, Nick might be coming right back into the game? Meh, at least we know he'll be active.

No idea what to make of the NK. Seems like almost everyone was suspicious of Nick for suggesting the quick-claim, so I don't know why he would be NK'd. Rereading and posting tomorrow, sleep now.

 

[ChibiCat]

Lot of new info to process here. I'll have to reread later but my initial reaction is to look at the people who didn't vote SSBF and perhaps Kirbyoshi as well. Less suspicious of TPK after he put SSBF at L-1.

Well for now I'll Vote Junglefever because you haven't really done anything since D1.

Still may need to look over some old posts. I did reread a bit and I am looking at Jungle most so far. Iirc, on D1 he pointed at SSBF a few times but he never went so far as to vote him, granted most people were looking at Fatchu then but still.

So, by this mindset you're trying to say that you think that scum didn't bus Smash Fan at all and that scum lurks in the 4 people that didn't vote him and we should look at them, and yet you're one of the 4 people that didn't! Are you saying we should FoS you as well?

Matching up Jungle as a non Smash Fan voter though with poor play earlier on does match up though

And I believe your thoughs on Paprika are pretty valid.

My suspicions are Rockin, Vrael, and Bungle.
Doing a re-read to determine which of those three was the most anti-SSBF lynch.

Out of curiosity, why did you take the same route as Clownbot and suspect everyone not on the Smash Fan lynch that isn't Clownbot?

Rockin is the obvious choice for voting Nich imo, but it could be the same thing as what happened last night where Ryker got killed and lots of people went after me.

So yeah, I might look into him.

If you might look into him then you might want to look into yourself as well lol. I find it odd that you would defend yourself when you were the natural suspect to Ryker and yet your almost ready to point the finger at Rockin.

I just can't see scum being that obvious imo, and therefor can't really see Vrael or Rockin being scum. Especially after seeing Vrael not be lynched, I would believe scum to not attempt the same trick again and expect it to work.

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FoS: Clownbot, MK

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Swords - will Nich replace Bungle if needed? I don't know a lot of mod's policy on member rejoining games like that. I think I've seen it before in a game. A modkill would be really lame this late in the game, but so would a replacement. Would a modkill end the day regardless of his flip? Ridiculously short day and another death this late in the game would be awful for us.

 

[Clownbot]

So, by this mindset you're trying to say that you think that scum didn't bus Smash Fan at all and that scum lurks in the 4 people that didn't vote him and we should look at them, and yet you're one of the 4 people that didn't! Are you saying we should FoS you as well?

The way I see it those who put SSBF at L-1 and L-2 are less suspicious simply because of when they placed their votes. MK seemed to be really pushing for SSBF so I didn't think he was scum. From the people that voted SSBF that leaves you and Kirbyo, neither of whom I feel are the lynch toDay.

Not saying it's impossible that MK or Paprika Killer could be scum but I doubt they're the play toDay. I see it being Rockin or Jungle for now but we've got plenty of time so that may very ell change.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I think that one out of MK/PK, if not both, is scum. This comes mostly by process of elimination, since I have town reads on everyone else (except Fever, but he's about to be replaced). So for now I'll...

Vote: The Paprika Killer, FoS: Meta-Kirby

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

If you might look into him then you might want to look into yourself as well lol. I find it odd that you would defend yourself when you were the natural suspect to Ryker and yet your almost ready to point the finger at Rockin.

Rockin isn't even suspicious to me at this point. I just wanted to re-read his posts since for the most part he's been flying under my radar.

I agree with pretty much everything else you said.

 

[ChibiCat]

The way I see it those who put SSBF at L-1 and L-2 are less suspicious simply because of when they placed their votes. MK seemed to be really pushing for SSBF so I didn't think he was scum. From the people that voted SSBF that leaves you and Kirbyo, neither of whom I feel are the lynch toDay.

Not saying it's impossible that MK or Paprika Killer could be scum but I doubt they're the play toDay. I see it being Rockin or Jungle for now but we've got plenty of time so that may very ell change.

I didn't mean it was bad to assume that Smash Fan wasn't bussed (since it really doesn't look that way to me either tbh), more just confirming that is what you think. The part I found more suspicious not mentioning anything about how you fit into the group that didn't vote him and didn't mention it at all. Even just thinking he wasn't scummy is fine lol. I particularly found him to be a pretty poor player, and am glad that we nailed scum with all the reads we had on him.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

Also: FoS: Meta-Kirby

He's immediately targeted me (yesterday and today to a lesser extent) and Rocking (today) when they are the obvious suspects. He hasn't voted so he's not exactly pushing for a bandwagon, but I dunno. It's more of just a preliminary suspicion than anything else.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I found more suspicious not mentioning anything about how you fit into the group that didn't vote him and didn't mention it at all.

Notice how he subs himself in for me in that list.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

EBWOP: Subbed me in for himself, not the other way around.

 

[Clownbot]

Only mentioned you because you were the first to vote SSBF which doesn't really put him at as much risk of getting lynched, Kirbyo.

 

[Deleted member]

I think that one out of MK/PK, if not both, is scum. This comes mostly by process of elimination, since I have town reads on everyone else (except Fever, but he's about to be replaced). So for now I'll...

Vote: The Paprika Killer, FoS: Meta-Kirby

Flawed logic much? You don't get a town read on Jungle but for the sheer fact that he's about to be replaced you don't care.

I also find the "argument" of a read vey weak and I want so actual reasoning from your side, but if that's the way you decide votes I still don't see why you picked me over jungle.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Sorry, I didn't mean it as I thought Fever was scummy at all, just that he hasn't posted quite enough for me to get a solid read on. I've had a slight nagging scum read on you from the beginning of the game, and now that everyone above you on the list is gone, I'd say it's time.

 

[Deleted member]

as said, I don't think of this "read" being much of a ground to lynch someone.
Do you have any actual reasoning at all?

 

[ChibiCat]

Notice how he subs himself in for me in that list.

Didn't really seem to me that he subbed you in, it more just seemed like two separate cases, you, and the people that didn't vote for Smash Fan. A reason for him suspecting you would be nice, and the problem with the other group is being suspicious on a group of people that involve himself based on something that he did himself.

Only mentioned you because you were the first to vote SSBF which doesn't really put him at as much risk of getting lynched, Kirbyo.

I don't get this...

Flawed logic much? You don't get a town read on Jungle but for the sheer fact that he's about to be replaced you don't care.

I also find the "argument" of a read vey weak and I want so actual reasoning from your side, but if that's the way you decide votes I still don't see why you picked me over jungle.

This is a legit point, the person that replaces Bungle will still have bungle's role. If you got a scum read on him it's still legit.

Sorry, I didn't mean it as I thought Fever was scummy at all, just that he hasn't posted quite enough for me to get a solid read on. I've had a slight nagging scum read on you from the beginning of the game, and now that everyone above you on the list is gone, I'd say it's time.

Understood, and yea this case doesn't help the fact that we can't get a solid read on him now being inactive (thinks back to me day 1 @_@)

 

[M.K]

I'm going to suggest that players who are confused who to vote for go back and look at SSBF's posts. I also suggest everyone take a good look at ChibiCat. The way SSBF talked about him Day 1 ("he's probably trying to decide who the real criminal is", "excellent post, you are now off my FoS", and "it seems ChibiCat will be gone most of D2. Oh well" <--without mention of it before) makes him seem like he's scum.

Vote: ChibiCat. It seems you've relied on your big posts to dazzle an audience of people waiting for your opinion, but the charade is done. I see how different SSBF referred to you as a player compared to others.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

im borrowing a computer for today, mainly because i have to write a paper, will do that then reread everythign i missed.

sorry guys.

 

[Clownbot]

@ChibiCat: What do you mean you don't get it?

During both of the SSBF wagons (there was one on D1 after his attempted hammer) Kirbyoshi was the first to vote SSBF. Putting a vote on someone who doesn't have any votes doesn't cause much risk, so you can look less suspicious by putting a vote on you scum partners without actually putting them in a lot of danger.

I know it's nothing huge to suspect him for but, as I stated, I don't think he's the lynch toDay anyway.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Couple things

this game has me jumping through hoops and im going to be honest, i don't remember most of D1, the only day i was here for. While I'm here, I'll respond to a few things

Clownbot: I never voted SSBF because I gave him the benefit of the doubt (of being new, which was, obviously, a mistake). I found fatchu scummier, and you can dig up my old posts for that. I think the D1 wagon on SSBF is actually more interesting than the actual lynch of SSBF. By the time SSBF was under suspicion, it was pretty clear, imo. Easy to say hindsight, especially when i was gone, but his posts were were weak in general and the vibe got worse and worse D2 ( can give evidence if you guys want it). So obvious, in fact, i dont even know if scum would attempt to bus him. HOWEVER, i do think it's possible that the FIRST quick wagon on SSBF could've been an attempt to bus, while th second said scum would distance. All speculation and I need to look at D1 closer but yeah.


For those of you with suspicion, is it soley based on the fact i was gone all of d2? check anywhere on the boards, i was no where. Ask people who talk to me online, i was gone. I can give you my million excuses, but i'm sure none of you really care. I'm here now and I'm ready to go.

 

[Rockin]

so, I'm back from PAX. Yayuz

I've skimmed a bit, but I see that Nicholas was killed. Didn't think he was actually town, but at least he was telling the truth. >>

I saw one or two people saying they have some scummy vibes on me. Can anyone please explain what I did scummy/why people find me suspicious?

 

[ChibiCat]

During both of the SSBF wagons (there was one on D1 after his attempted hammer) Kirbyoshi was the first to vote SSBF. Putting a vote on someone who doesn't have any votes doesn't cause much risk, so you can look less suspicious by putting a vote on you scum partners without actually putting them in a lot of danger.

I know it's nothing huge to suspect him for but, as I stated, I don't think he's the lynch toDay anyway.

Makes sense.

I mean yea it's something to note, but certainly not the means to shoot him to the top of a suspect list lol (not saying you did, just stating)

 

[Kirbyoshi]

Or it could be that I was the first to suspect him enough to vote him both times, Clownbot >.>