Smash Bros. Mafia - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in the Subspace Emissary?

[Rockin]

Okay, while Fatchu was lynched and all, we really didn't gain much information to talk about for D2. Then again, Fatchu was hella suspicious with the way he defended.

I still feel a bit uneasy about Nich cause of the fast claim, but right now he's neutral.

I'm gonna have to reread the thread and see what else I can find. I would like SSBF, Kirbyyoshi, Meta Kirby, and Vrael to post a bit more. Me no like sheeps/lurkers >:

 

[Deleted member]

@Rockin: I'll be looking forward to your next post.

Also, regarding the quick claim, Nicholas1024 did apoligize for it. He thought there was a deadline two days from the original one, but he didn't notice that SwordRbroken delayed it to March 16, 2010 due to an mod error, so therefore, he assumed that the it was time for a claim then.

 

[ChibiCat]

I will post the rest (or most of the rest) of my analysis tonight. I'm at work atm so it's tough to pay attention to long drawn all posts (this is why I'll still be on Smashboards, just wanted to let people know I'm not neglecting the game). I also have to take the flip and night kill into consideration as well.

 

[Deleted member]

EBWOP: Sorry, I meant that SwordsRbroken delayed Day 1 of the game to March 18, 2010. My bad.

 

[Deleted member]

Sorry to double post and to get off topic, but SwordsRbroken has finally updated the list of players that are out or still in the game.

Now we can focus on what is important, the game.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I'm about to get mad busy this next week, see if i cant get a post or two in per day.

@Rockin: I didn't feel what I was saying was hurtful, i felt that I was trying to help him create a better defense. All I did was tell him why the suspicion wasn't lifted off him, but he refused to change the way he was doing things.

 

[M.K]

Because Ryker was killed during the night, I'm having strong suspicions towards Vrael...
I mean, they did have a back-and-forth that was interuptted by the eventual Fatchu lynch, so that's where I might focus my attention during a reread.

 

[Deleted member]

I'm not entirely sure if vrael would be that obvious, then again he might just be hoping that we're thinking that (etc. ad infinitum) so I won't bother thinking about that too much.

Besides ryker going against vrael and fatchu, is there anyone else? I didn't see anything that struck me as vey odd unfortunately.

 

[Deleted member]

@The Paprika Killer: Not really. The closest one to being suspicious is Meta-Kirby. Some of his posts are good, but there are a few that were relatively aggressive. But right now, I can't really find a lead that could prove his scumminess, so I'll wait for for information before saying otherwise.

@Meta-Kirby: Had it not been for Fatchu's interrupting the arguement with his poorly executed posts, it would have been a much longer timespan before the arguement would actually end. Vrael probably would still have some sort of grudge towards Ryker despite the arguement prematurely ending. To be able to get more information out of him, I suggest starting a bandwagon to get his attention:

Vote: Vrael

 

[Clownbot]

Aggressive =/= scummy. In fact, you were aggressive towards Fatchu near the end of D1.

Not sure that the Vrael wagon will go anywhere, but it's worth a shot

Vote Vrael

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

After I saw that Ryker got killed, I immediately knew that I would have a few votes on me. It's not really surprising. It seems logical that Mafia would do that in an attempt to make me look more suspicious with the hopes that I'd be lynched. If I were Mafia, it's be what I would do.

So anyway. I didn't/don't have any grudge against Ryker, in fact we both ended up agreeing at the end on the Fatchu vote.

I never thought Ryker was scummy, at first I was just trying to defend myself, and then I got kind of angry with all the "Vrael dead yet?" posts. So yeah. I don't see what else I can say.

I think you guys' votes are a bit hasty. I mean you didn't even wait for me to post. The fact that you guys are voting so quickly looks a bit suspicious to me, since it seems like you're pushing for a lynch. I mean they could be pressure votes but eh. So yeah, I'll answer any questions or anything.

I want to ask a question to all of you: from the eyes of the Mafia, what would be the beneficial reasons to kill Ryker?

 

[Clownbot]

The fact that he's a contributory townie.

 

[Deleted member]

basically what clwonbot said, and the option to shove it in someone else's face (read: Vrael).

 

[Deleted member]

@Vreal: Ryker has not done anything really suspicious since the Ryker Vs. Vrael arguement.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

The fact that he's a contributory townie.

But then why him as opposed to Chibi, or anyone else?

I'm almost certain Mafia killed him to frame me.

SSBF: And...?

 

[Deleted member]

SSBF: And...?

An arguement with that person with him or her getting killed shortly after can lead to that other person being questioned.

Which is why you are in this situation.

 

[Nicholas1024]

Doctor is an incredibly common role, which is probably why mafia didn't go for Chibi cat... due to his awesome end of day postings, he'd be the obvious doctor protect. Ryker was another widely-thought-to-be-town, had been contributing a ton (if not the most), and had drawn stances on several people.

As far as the Vrael wagon goes... I don't think Ryker really thought him suspicious at the end of the day. His Vrael wagon early in the day was to get us out of the RVS, and it did that quite well. However, one thing that I don't like about him is part of his response to the wagon.

I think you guys' votes are a bit hasty. I mean you didn't even wait for me to post. The fact that you guys are voting so quickly looks a bit suspicious to me, since it seems like you're pushing for a lynch. I mean they could be pressure votes but eh. So yeah, I'll answer any questions or anything.

I don't like the way he's throwing suspicion at everyone who's voting him. It reminds me way too much of what I did back in Ronike's test subject mafia. N1 I had killed the person most suspicious of me (I was basically the SK, it was my second game and first as anti-town), and when D2 came around, I successfully argued that mafia was trying to frame me and lynched one of the townies that had pushed a case on me at the beginning of the day.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I agree with Nick, Ryker v Vrael was more of an attempt at getting out of the RVS mroe than anything, imo. Ryker sort of seems like an obvious kill since he got us out of the RVS then stayed quiet, hinting towards trying to stay out of the spotlight but being useful early so people remember. Hmmm, more on this later

 

[Deleted member]

@Junglefever: While he will be most remembered for the Ryker Vs. Vrael arguement in here, we must remember that he has always been active in the game. He was especially active during the Ryker Vs. Fatchu phase of Day 1.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I dont really remember him doing much but posting one liners about how bad everyone is, 'is vrael dead yet' and..other one liners, nothing like the contributions he made during the Ryker vs Vrael. I could be wrong here, but if my memory serves me correctly, he was active, but not actively contributing to discussion, a way of being here without being here.

 

[Deleted member]

In an attempt to increase activity in here, I'm going to ask you all a question.

Who do you think is susipicous and why? I want all to answer this question as soon as they get the oppertunity to do so. You can name out just one or list multiple people who you think is scum.

 

[ChibiCat]

Sorry I got held up after work, and I'll be at a tourney tomorrow. Will post as soon as I can.

 

[Deleted member]

@ChibiCat: I really do hope so because the last thing we need is for you to go through another inactive period like you did during the majority of Day 1.

 

[M.K]

SSBF, you are being very, very pushy with activity. Stop the activity policing. Where I am currently, it's 1:14 A.M., so I'm sure most of the game is sleeping. The game will pick up as new information is introduced in a steady (not forcibly exumed) pace.

 

[Kirbyoshi]

I'll have to reread Ryker's posts to see who else would kill him, but I just think Vrael is too obvious. But for now...

Vote: Super Smash Bros. Fan

He seems like the most likely to take advantage of "simple WIFOM," i.e. just one step ("Vrael will probably become the top suspect if I kill Ryker"). Just a preliminary vote--I'm going to make a more informed vote after I sleep for awhile.

 

[Deleted member]

SSBF, you are being very, very pushy with activity. Stop the activity policing. Where I am currently, it's 1:14 A.M., so I'm sure most of the game is sleeping. The game will pick up as new information is introduced in a steady (not forcibly exumed) pace.

I'm gonna agree on this one. you don't have to have every other post just saying people need to be more active. WE GET IT. Instead try to contribute some more, like answering your own question, since you posed it yourself (quid pro quo)

 

[Clownbot]

Vote Paprika Killer

It's come to my attention that you've done extremely little to progress the game.

Some of your posts make it look like you're skimming too.

Okay, guys, enough with the random voting Please. We should get ourselves started with some real business here.

unvote

agreed lets get serious.

like fatchu, agreed with who? nobody said to get serious for the 10 or so posts before you.

(this was at the time when SSBF was V/LA due to computer problems)

3) FoS: Super Smash Bros. Fan, where you at man?

 

[Deleted member]

"let's get serious" and then nothing else in a post isn't really helping right?

also, I corrected myself on SSB Fan shortly thereafter after checking if he had a reason for it.
now who's skimming?

 

[Clownbot]

"let's get serious" and then nothing else in a post isn't really helping right?

What point are you trying to make?

also, I corrected myself on SSB Fan shortly thereafter after checking if he had a reason for it.
now who's skimming?

I was aware of that but if you had been keeping up with things you would have known in the first place.

 

[Deleted member]

the "10" was a figure of speech, especially with the "or so" after it, and my post contained something serious, namely the question towards fatchu.
my previous post can be forgotten as I kind of interpreted your post wrong, my bad.

 

[Deleted member]

also, I corrected myself on SSB Fan shortly thereafter after checking if he had a reason for it.
now who's skimming?

It's good that you've corrected yourself on the situation, but how was I skimming? I've read through the entire thread from post 1 to now and I have not seen a question directed at me where I was skimming. If I was skimming on any questions, tell me and I'll answer them.

 

[Deleted member]

>_> that was an ironic response aimed at clownbot.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

So after Rockin's post I went back through and looked at each of Paprika Killer's posts (I think.)

Basically, on every single vote or FoS he had, he barely posted any explanation whatsoever. He hasn't asked anyone any questions at all, and hasn't really posted his feeling outside of a few really short posts. Basically, he's just trying to fly under the radar, and not generating any information.

Town's best weapon is their vote. You need information to make votes. Why would town not try to generate information? Maybe because Paprika Killer isn't town at all.

Just speculation at this point, but I'd like to see what he has to say.

FoS: The Paprika Killer

 

[Deleted member]

so your reasoning is like this:

asking questions = generating information => votes = good for town

and about me
not asking questions = not generating information !=> votes
aka not good for town

(asking if this is correct)

funfact: there have been posed a total of 3 questions today
1) nicholas:
@Chibi cat
Is the next installment of your game analysis ready yet?
2)Vrael:
SSBF: And...?
3)Clownbot
What point are you trying to make?
(@me)

there basically isn't much to talk about and I find it strange that you pick out me.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

You have not consciously attempted you generate any information for the entire game.

If you have, please show me the posts, I must have missed them.

 

[Deleted member]

506 I asked Fatchu to tell us what his scumcandidates were

520 I asked junglefever what his thoughts were on fatchu not claiming

I still want to know if my train of thought in the previous post was correct.

what are your other candidates for a lynch besides me?

 

[Deleted member]

@The Paprika Killer: You said in post #634 that there wasn't much to talk about.

Are you serious? There are 600 posts of information here, more so then in the Down & Dirty Mafia. I cannot believe that you would think that we have little information to go on after this long.

Can't really go after Vrael anymore: Unvote.

FoS: The Paprika Killer

 

[Deleted member]

2 things SSBF:
1) I meant that currently not much is happening and thus not much to talk about.
2)quantity =/= quality. it isn't until post 106 that people decide RVS should stop

here is something to talk about:
deadline is coming close and you have the deciding vote, who is gonna die and why. This is a question to everyone. give me a few minutes to make up my mind and I'll answer it too.

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

506 I asked Fatchu to tell us what his scumcandidates were

520 I asked junglefever what his thoughts were on fatchu not claiming

I still want to know if my train of thought in the previous post was correct.

what are your other candidates for a lynch besides me?

Two things? I still feel like you're flying under the radar way too much, and I don't understand why someone who is town would neglect to gather information when that is their best resource. Which is exactly why I don't think you are town.

I don't have any lynch candidates at the moment, including you. I'd like to see what this discussion reveals before I make an official vote.

@ your train of thought:

asking questions = generating information => votes = good for town

and about me
not asking questions = not generating information !=> votes
aka not good for town

More like this:

Good:

Asking questions/stating opinions leads to gaining information which is the only way to make informed votes which benefit town.

Bad:

Not asking questions/stating opinions leads to the town being left in the dark which leads to misinformed votes which are bad.

The second is pretty much what you're doing.

So again, if you are town, why would you neglect to generate information since it is the best resource of the town?

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

@Paprika's question:

I would not vote, as I do not have enough information at this time. If I had to pick someone I'd pick you, because you have been flying under the radar by not blazing any new paths of thought and pretty much just going with the grain the entire time. That's scum activity right there.