Smash Bros. Mafia - OVER! Who lived happily ever after in the Subspace Emissary?

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Wow fail.

EBWOP:

MY NAME IS VRAEL NOT VREAL

Just so everyone sees this.

 

[Fatchu]

@VRAEL (there happy): You were active during your argument with ryker, however since then your activity has died down and you jumped on my bandwagon, which to me means that you are trying to avoid confrontation.

 

[Deleted member]

Then explain ChibiCat's absents and Paparika Killer's name? For all you know, they could two of the three murderers.

Arrr you got me.

>_>
seriously, what has my name to do with this game?
I agree on chibicat's absence, I think I already FoS'd them for that at some point

 

[Deleted member]

@VRAEL (there happy): You were active during your argument with ryker, however since then your activity has died down and you jumped on my bandwagon, which to me means that you are trying to avoid confrontation.

For all you know, that could have taken place during his spring break. I can guaranteen you that once spring break is over for me, don't expect me around in this game until 5:00PM on weekdays due to school (Nothing changes on the weekend unless notified otherwise). If that was the reason, you can't really blame him.

Arrr you got me.

>_>
seriously, what has my name to do with this game?
I agree on chibicat's absence, I think I already FoS'd them for that at some point

The name doesn't really mean anything, I was just trying to come up with an 2nd excuse. Yeah, it's lame. If ChibiCat doesn't respond by the time I go to bed, I'm going to change my vote to him. At least Fatchu is active.

 

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@VRAEL (there happy): You were active during your argument with ryker, however since then your activity has died down and you jumped on my bandwagon, which to me means that you are trying to avoid confrontation.

I've been out of town. With no computer.

Lots of people jumped on your bandwagon, at least I gave reasons unlike some other people.

No one has said much to me, I'm not going to post for absolutely no reason.

 

[Fatchu]

Sorry, I was out of town.

OK so Fatchu hasn't really done anything to benefit this game so far. He's not really being super scummy in my opinion, just not being helpful. It was more of a pressure vote to see how he did under pressure. Basically he doesn't do very well, because from what I've seen he's still doing some suspicious stuff.

I need to find out more about Nich, he's looking kind of scummy at this point. He just jumped on the bandwagon for me and Fatchu (I think) with no explanation. Just seems like he's trying to kill someone. I don't know though, I'm gonna read through his posts again.

Sorry I was gone guys. I'm really tired to I'm sorry if some of what I said doesn't make sense, I'll clarify if I can.

This is basically parroting every other reason that had been stated before hand. Just in a drawn out paragraph form.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Deadline in 3 days.

Nich, Rockin, and, for the love of god, Chibicat, I've played with each of you and know that you guys are capable of more. I want each of you to tell me who is the play and why because I'm getting pretty frustrated at this point.

BF, I love you. Thank you for injecting some common sense.

Clownbot, I love you too. I don't know you, but your keeping your head here.

 

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This is basically parroting every other reason that had been stated before hand. Just in a drawn out paragraph form.

I would have said it earlier, but I was out of town. I never said the reasons hadn't been said before, I said that some people just voted because there was a bandwagon. Like SSBF.

 

[Deleted member]

Not to get off topic, but is it me or do I feel like this is similar to an reality show similar to this game?

@Vrael: That is partly true, but I also made that very poor choice of a vote because I thought it was an oppertunity to get rid of Fatchu prematurely. Man was that a bad idea and as a result, it could cost me the game on Day 1.

But that's an arguement (Or discussion to put it lightly) for another day.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It should have a lot more CSI and a lot less Survivor.

 

[ChibiCat]

Sorry about our activity, we had a bit of a rough start getting into the game, then when we were ready Tom started having computer problems and I had preferred to wait for him so we can play together as planned. He's still going to be out for another day or two but I'm taking over until he's back. Get ready for a big *** multi-quote post.

Lets start off with undoing this business...

Unvote

...wherever my vote was lol

Since I'm dealing with so many quotes here, I'm going to do a point system to sum up my thoughts on who is scummy and who is townie. I think it would be a good way to gauge it somewhat now. + is town, - is scum.

And mod-voting is still a silly thing to do even during RVS. The point of RVS is to vote other players to get reactions, not vote the mod for lulz.

This is a good point, and further reinforces what I said before.

+1 Clownbot

Swords is my brother, I have a right to annoy him.

But seriously, if you have a better idea of who to look at, I'm all ears. Who's scum, Chibi?

Please keep outside game relationships out of this, it can make it easier for scum to hide and buddy up with townies, though this isn't a big deal when one of them is the mod lol, just annoying and derails conversation.

I don't have any reads on players who seem scummy yet. Keep reading on in this post, maybe I'll find one.

And also, Clownbot, is it not possible to mod-vote to get reactions from other players? I think your very reaction proves that point.

I hardly see how their reactions could be anything but null-tells. Well, I suppose there are some things now that I think about it, but it's not that important and using RVS to pressure new players is better imo.

not take a hint? my whole point was that he ignored my reason for voting the first time.

Your name is long, it's gonna happen

Vote: Clownbot

Explain plz

-1 Vrael

Way to elaborate. >.>

I know what you're doing, and I like it.

+1 Ryker

Okay, guys, enough with the random voting Please. We should get ourselves started with some real business here.

I see a lot of new faces here. A LOT. The only ones I can even recognize is Chibi cat (Tom/Chibi) and...well, that's about it.

So, I'm just curious from everyone (besides Chibicat). Is this ya first game here? If not, what other games did ya play in?

Further helping to move out of RVS, connecting with new players and learning their history to get a feel for them.

+2 Rockin

: | Nice.

Unvote Vote Ryker

You aren't helping.

-1 Clownbot

I've played in the Disco Room before. This is my first game in DGames.

Glad to see ya in dgames

Rockin, if you wnat to know what games I played you can find that out yourself. rather focus on something more serious.

like fatchu, agreed with who? nobody said to get serious for the 10 or so posts before you.

Lil' aggressive there dontcha think?

-1 Paprika

ah, if you said that right away I'd have answered. while UC is the only other game here I've played (am playing, w/e) about 10 games on SmashNL.

Saved yourself.

+1 Paprika

I thought you'd never ask.

Useless

Uselesser

Useless

Back to the original useless

Directly answers a question. First useful post all game and only barely

Has done nothing to even try and progress the game. At this point, he can start playing Mafia or he can go.

I figured you had a reason behind all this. I'm a little dissapointed you didnt ride it out a bit longer to get a reaction from Vrael which I thought was bound to happen, but then again perhaps him not getting worked up is a good sign showing confidence.

+2 Ryker
+1 Vrael

It's called RVS. If you look at other posts from the first few days, none of them say anything. You could say the same thing about everyone else in the game.

You're calling my posts useless? You voted for me like 8 times in a row. Yup, that's progressing the game.

You're just trying to cover up all of that by just saying RVS? Well in that case you shouldn't be focusing so much on RVS imo. Staying in RVS is a good way to keep scum under the radar and you saying RVS kind of gives you a freebie to turn everything you've said so far into a null-tell, covering up things you might not be for anymore.

-3 Vrael

I pulled a stunt to get people talking. Finally, I got a response from Rockin. No, I'm not being hypocritical.

What do you plan on doing to continue. As of right now, you appear to be doing your ****edest to shrug off what I'm saying and continue lurking through an extended RVS.

This.

+1 Ryker
-1 Vrael

Find out as much information as I can by pressuring people with votes.

Go ahead, lynch me. You're either trying to lose, or you're scum.

Is that really your only way of going about things (in day 1 at least)? Just pressure votes?

Vote: Ryker That is a HORRIBLE way to get discussion started. That's a really good way to get a townie to react in a way that could be taken as scummy. I also think the octo-vote is some of you being cocky from Bat2, and gearing up for another scum win. Not cool.

Sorry, but you're going against something I was fine with getting town reads from. You're choice of wording such as "HORRIBLE" is trying a bit harder than not to push suspicion from Vrael onto Ryker.

-1 kirbyoshi

Kirbyo, way to OMGUS vote for your buddy.

That's your information?

How was his post an OMGUS? Unlike you, he had justification.

It kind of was an OMGUS vote imo. Ryker also picked up on it right away.

Rykers on a roll here, +1

I do not lurk in Mafia games. RocketPSIence can vouch for that, he's been in both of the DR mafia games with me.

I didn't vote because I don't see a compelling reason to vote for you at this point. You're certainly impulsive, and I don't think you're going to help town if you continue like this, but I don't like to vote with little information.

I feel like you're making conclusions based on very little information. Hell, some people have only posted like twice. What's the value of coming to conclusions this early in the game?

Solid backing on your points there, whether or not I agree with the big picture.

+1 Vrael

I have concluded Ryker is scum. I'm acting on that by voting him. Once.

Bit too early to put it in such conrete terms dontcha think?

Well Vrael, almost everyone has posted. Except Fatchu, 'cause HE'S TOO SLOW!

These lame jokes are really starting to irk me

Actually, I take that back, Fatchu didn't promise a post; he said "lets get dangerous" and LEFT. Now, granted, all but 3 players aren't here, but the most depressing absence to me is Fatchu's, since he agreed with Rockin that everyone should get serious, and that was his last post. Maybe because Ryker is doing a good job articulating the thoughts of the scum?

Fixed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=375ENQbru8s

Kirbyoshi, not everyone is on 24 hours in a day.

As far as Vrael v.s. Ryker, I agree that Ryker was being hypocritical somewhat about the "unhelpfulness" thing, however, I cannot deny that his argument against Vrael has gotten us out of the RVS. I think Ryker was purposely doing something controversial to start an argument and jumpstart the game.At any rate, there's no harm in adding a little pressure to the wagon, so...

Vote: Vrael

lol

Oh yea, +1 Nicholas

Sword can't you just be nice and say you're sorry for F-ing up my name so I will actually start playing the game?

Can you please drop this point? There is PLENTY to discuss right now and you're still hung up on this. PM him or talk to him on AIM or something. The fact that you're on and posting and not commenting on Ryker vs Vrael is interesting.

-1 Paprika

1) I posted more than other players so don't imply I'm inactive.
2) you might not care that much about your nickname getting screwed over but I do. He did like 3 votecounts after my more serious request and he could've easily bottomlined that he's sorry.
3) FoS: Super Smash Bros. Fan, where you at man?

Why FoS Smash Fan? There are plenty of other people that are also inactive (myself included at the time). What makes them not get FoS'd?

-1 Paprika

PK, just because you have posted more than someone else, does not mean you are being more active/helpful than they are. Therefore, I issue a challenge to you...

COME ON, STEP IT UP!

omg...

-10,000 kirbyoshi

...

... just kidding

Kirbyo.

Vrael dead yet?

imo you're getting too pushy now.

-1 Ryker

Also, Vrael had no way of knowing that you were voting him legitimately, at least try to push his lynch by providing your case before you keep making useless (and yes, they were, for the most part, useless) posts voting him. I figured you were just ****ing around like most everyone else.

A vote is a vote, don't take votes as joking around unless they are on the mod and obvious RVS votes. I understood Ryker completely fine when he did the octo-vote, and could tell his reasoning behind it.

-1 Clownbot

Great, twist my words however you want.

I'm not taking a stance this early. I don't know anything about anyone other than you. I like to, Iunno, gain information before voting.

Not wanting to end the day early or confirm a stance until he's heard more from people. Gives some town vibes.

+1 Vrael

This is a very odd game and I cant get a read on anybody lol however I say this


vote paprika the mean ones are always scum.


*fires diddy peanut guns at paprika.

Please don't tell me you're name claiming - big wtf at that.

Thanks for having a 1,000% useless vote. You have NO comment on anything that's happened besides it being odd?

-4 Fatchu

@ryker, it was a gut feeling. *hehe gut fatchu* sorry just saw that play on words.


But w/e unvote


As for my thoughts on vreal v. ryker. I dont feel threatened by vreal just making mistakes in communication. I dont have a read on ryker yet.

Reading this post over 3 times, I seriously don't even know what you are trying to say.

-2 Fatchu

Which one do you think is more potentially scum? QUOTE]

Side though from reading this... I do not think Ryker v Vrael is SvS, no way two scum did something that convaluted. I'm wanting to think that it's TvS, though it could still be 2 stubborn townies against each other.

@clownbot: I would have to go with ryker. Hes playing unintended consequensies and he is no where near this agressive.

Guess what though, do you know his roll in Unintended? No you don't. If he was already flipped townie in that then perhaps you could use this argument to say he's acting the opposite of himself as a townie, but yea - this makes no sense.

-1 Fatchu

You know what since we are at that point vote ryker


*Fires pop guns*

actually unvote


Ill hold off on that decision.

Reading your posts makes me want to shove a spoon in my ear.

-1 Fatchu

Vote: Clownbot

Murders tend to be very silent when a game is going on. They are traitors of there own people and will kill at any time.

Due to his small amount of posts here, I have come to this conclusion that he should be hanged.

Clownbot has been more active and helpful than other people here certainly, I don't know where you got such a vibe from.

-1 Smash Fan

Vrael dead yet?

Seriously, people besides Vrael need to be discussed.

-1 Ryker

but some of Vrael's most recent posts are kind of fishy to me.

Mind saying which ones and why?

Ok im definitly going to vote ryker

Your attitude is detrimental to the game, honestly it has scum all over it.


post edited to make bold. I know im not supposed to sorry.

1. Don't edit no matter what
2. You're far more detrimental to the game

Vrael dead yet?

You are completely ruining all credibility you had with me.

-2 Ryker

Calling Vrael out in the first place, even as an attempt to get us out of RVS was absolutely terrible, you may have well called anyone else out. You claimed the posts he made during RVS were useless but what's scummy about that? The fact that he mod-voted? Yeah, you did that too. And if you're upset that he did it after the modscene so did Paprika Killer. The fact that he made a joke-post calling MK and Kirbyoshi scumbuddies? Several other people made similar posts.

When you began voting him your reasoning was horrid and it wasn't until Vrael's most recent posts that I've found him even remotely scummy. You didn't even explain your reasoning until someone piped up about your accumulation of useless "Vote Vraels" and "Is he dead yet?" posts, and until than you didn't make it clear that you found him a legitimate lynch candidate. (It was during RVS. A lot of people do weird **** during that.)

On that note, Vote Ryker





Unvote, Vote Ryker

Quality post.

+1 Clownbot

Good man!

1.) Say what you want about my tactics. It worked didn't it? I could've picked just about anyone, but I did pick Vrael and it did work.

2.) Nothing in particular made him stand out originally.

3.) The fact that I had nothing to begin with does not mean that I have nothing now.

4.) I didn't say, "Vrael dead yet" until after someone finally asked me why I was voting Vrael. I was simply awaiting someone to pipe up about it and show they were ready for RVS to be over.

I retract my earlier good man comment. You simply summarized my options and have not explained why any of it has been scummy. Please tell me why getting us out of RVS is a bad thing and why you think that my suspicions regarding Vrael should be discarded simply because of the way it originated.

Unvote

What can I say. : |

Just to clarify,



These are what changed my mind most. I suppose 1 did work to get us out of RVS, I wasn't even aware of 2 (which made a huge difference), and yeah, I guess 3 makes sense too.

I'm still new at this. 9_9

I'm assuming Vrael is still scummiest to you.

Good posts.

+1 Ryker
+1 Clownbot

I think I noticed something there Clownbot, let me know if I'm right.






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Ok, so that wraps up the first 15 pages. That took a while, I need to take a lil break. The things that stood out to me were:
1. Ryker had a great first half of that segment, but then started to lose it by being a bit too tunneled on Vrael and refused to look into other people.
2. Vrael's defense got increasingly better as it went on, but early on really wasn't looking good.
3. Fatchu is 100% useless.

Here were the point tallies I got. If you're name isn't on there, you have 0 and I didn't give or take away points.

Clownbot: 0
Vrael: -2
Ryker: 1
Rockin: 2
Paprika: -2
kirbyoshi: -1
Nicholas: 1
Fatchu: -8
Smash Fan: -1

Vote: Fatchu

Going to continue to keep a close eye on Vrael.

 

[Fatchu]

So your going to make a vote in a game after only reading half the game?? You need to read all of it for your opnion to be taken seriously.

 

[Deleted member]

@ChibiCat: Excellent post there. I cannot wait until the next segment.

You are officially off my FoS.

 

[Clownbot]

Bra. Vo.

Mind saying which ones and why?

Especially since I'll flip town. If you lynch me, Mafia will get 2 free kills. Yes, that will help the town >_>

AtE

And yet you've said nothing to show that I'm scum. No compelling evidence, just saying that I'm "acting scummy." Reasoning please.

At this point Ryker had shown sufficient evidence behind Vrael's scumminess.

I think I noticed something there Clownbot, let me know if I'm right.

...What do you mean? xD

Vote Fatchu

After SSBF and Chibi's posts I'm really thinking that he's the lynch toDay.

 

[Deleted member]

So your going to make a vote in a game after only reading half the game?? You need to read all of it for your opnion to be taken seriously.

he did more than you did in just that single post.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Care to explain why SSBF's posts infuenced you ata ll

 

[Clownbot]

They didn't really influence me so much. Some of his latest posts, as well as Chibi's post, show a decent amount of effort and I think they've redeemed themselves for toDay. (You'd better keep it up though )

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Hmm, I don't see how effort should let anyone off the hook. All I'm getting from SSBF is that he's saying he's new and shoudn't be scrutinized so hard for his mistakes, which isn't a legit reason at all. One post he talked about the possibility of Vrael being in spring breka, something that is Vrael's responsibility to report, not his, and TPK's name, something totally off topic. He ecven said it was jsut a reason to have a second point, like..what?

 

[ChibiCat]

I'm going to try and do another catch up post later tonight then wrap it all up tomorrow.

ClownBot if you re-read the post of yours I quoted and didn't do anything sneaky in that post lol, then it's just my imagination (nothing scummy though). I'd also say what I thought you did lol.

I'm willing to bet that if I voted for anyone besides Fatchu that he wouldn't have said anything lol.

Normally I'm all for lynching someone scummy over someone whos bad for the town but I haven't picked up on a definite scum read yet, and Fatchu is just so absolutely useless and detrimental from the town that if he doesn't flip scum (which there's still a good chance of as I can see his posts being like a noob scum player) that I honestly won't be all that upset lol.

He has completely ignored everything else in the game even when being active.

Even AGAIN with his most recent post, instead of commenting on the plethora of content I just gave, all he worried about was my vote on him. How scummy.

 

[Deleted member]

I think I might have an interesting idea for Mafia games. It'll be divided into sagas. Saga are major events in this thread that are in days.

I'll try to explain myself. If there were four major sagas in a day, then it would be inside a day. Basically this:

Game boils down to days (Obviously)
Days boils down to sagas
Sagas boils down to pages
Pages boils down to posts

Just trying to explain. Anyway, here is how I see the sagas for Day 1 as of now:

Saga I: Random Voting Stage
Saga II: Ryker Vs. Vrael
Saga III: Ryker Vs. Fatchu
Saga IV: Fatchu Diss the Town
Saga V: Super Smash Bros. Fan's Outlanish Actions
Saga VI: Super Smash Bros. Fan Vs. Fatchu And the Return of ChibiCat!

Now I know what you're thinking that this is just stupid and that it doesn't do anything, but I can attempt to explain how it can benefit the game.

When a person wants to bring up evidence against a person, this can help them because they can go to an certain saga and use certain posts against them. It can help the game feel more organized and better planned. Also, it can also be used for reading over once the day (Or the game in general) is over.

But how do we define sagas? By choosing certain posts and certain pages. We'll take Saga II: Ryker Vs. Vrael. Let's face it, we can't really define when a saga starts or ends, but we can at least try to do that. Here is what I mean:

Saga II: Ryker Vs. Vrael (Pg. 9-Pg. 14)

If you want to go into more detail:

Saga II: Ryker Vs. Vrael (#122-#196)

Sagas can also overlap if necessary. That mean Saga IV can be occuring with Saga V, but Saga IV cannot overlap with Saga VI.

Do you see what I'm getting here? It would be an nice addition to the Mafia games. The only other thing we need is someone who isn't actively particapating in the game, but is documenting it. At the end of a day, the person responsible will record the saga's during the Twlight and Night phase and can document it during the Day phase as well, if he or she so choose. Then the person will send it to the person running the game and he'll review it to see if it can be approved.

This idea if approved, will not be required and will only exist on forums Mafia games like this, since doing it elsewhere will be much more difficult to do.

So, what do you think of my idea?

@Bunglefever: I think we should wait and have that question answered later, once he gets his quote done. We have less then half of the thread that have gotten quotes.

Then I feel it'll be apporite to ask that question to him.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

When you make a large post like that can it please be RELEVANT? It isn't something you should bring into a specific game thread.

On that note, if it helps YOU organize your thoughts, go ahead and go for it.

And what question? that was shot at Clownbot, who isn't working on a quote.

 

[Fatchu]

I'm going to try and do another catch up post later tonight then wrap it all up tomorrow.

ClownBot if you re-read the post of yours I quoted and didn't do anything sneaky in that post lol, then it's just my imagination (nothing scummy though). I'd also say what I thought you did lol.

I'm willing to bet that if I voted for anyone besides Fatchu that he wouldn't have said anything lol.

Normally I'm all for lynching someone scummy over someone whos bad for the town but I haven't picked up on a definite scum read yet, and Fatchu is just so absolutely useless and detrimental from the town that if he doesn't flip scum (which there's still a good chance of as I can see his posts being like a noob scum player) that I honestly won't be all that upset lol.

He has completely ignored everything else in the game even when being active.

Even AGAIN with his most recent post, instead of commenting on the plethora of content I just gave, all he worried about was my vote on him. How scummy.

My concern would of been the same even if you voted for someone else, you shoudnt base an opnion only after half the game.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

he isnt allowed to have an opinion while reading?

scum shakin in his boots yo.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Good to see you Chibi.

 

[Deleted member]

@Fatchu: How can you not take his post seriously? He spent a lot of time gathering up those posts and all of them are very good responses. Sure, it would be nice if he had them all, but seriously, fifteen pages of quotes and solid responses aren't good enough for you?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I agree with SSBF (what). While his initial analysis is incomplete that doesn't mean you should just brush it aside, scummy yo.

 

[Fatchu]

I just think that you shoudnt post in a game until your competly caught up with whats going on.

 

[Clownbot]

Would you have preferred that they kept us in the dark for even longer and gave us too much to stomach in one post?

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Not even too much to stomach, i just like to see someones gradual thinking rather than see just the conclusions, even if it takes more than one post

 

[DtJ Jungle]

Also Fatchu, if thats the case, why do you care if he voted you so much? If his opinion means nothing while he hasnt caught up why did you make a big fuss about being voted?

 

[Nicholas1024]

YES! Chibi cat post! Unvote

Alright, a few things I wanted to address.

First off, I'm liking SSBF's recent posts. Let's go through a few.

Meta-Knight was basically lurking through the Random Voting Stage until it ended, then his activity picked up. This really isn't much to say and isn't enough to vote him or even give him an FoS for that matter.

Wrong. Check the post counts. Meta Kirby is one of 3 people with less posts than the mod. (The other two are Bungle and Chibi cat)

Fatchu has shown signs that he does not care for the town and is selfish, even thought people might say the same thing about me.

A bit of captain obvious here, but true, and Bungle did ask for his reasoning.

Nicholas attampted an quick claim against Fatchu and to get rid of him until my outlanish attempt to prematurely lynch Fatchu.

Yeah... that was a mistake on my part. Besides, I had the deadline here wrong.

Post #226 by ChibiCat:



Well, about thirteen pages later, you still have barely contributed to this game at all. Where are your arguements, who do you vote for, and do you have any people that might look like scums?

Decent point. His lurkishness has been pointed out before, but it's nice to see you address it. (Thankfully, Chibi cat is back in action! )

Post #234 by Fatchu:



It sounds like he's attempting to reveil himself who he is to drive away votes from him.

I disagree. This is AtE (appeal to emotion). Anyone can say "I'm a townie, don't lynch me!"

Post #270 by Fatchu:



When you are trying to discourage other people, attack other people, and faiiling to respond to questions, that's how people can consider you worse then other people.

Exactly.

Post #272 by Fatchu:



By the time you posted this, there were around 250 posts of evidences in this thread, so you should have at least begun to think of a possible lead.

*nod*

Post #277 by Fatchu:



At that time, you had the most vote, so wouldn't you want to defend yourself and save your hide from being lynched? Also, why are you trying to say other people are wrong when they have good reasons to lynch you?



Post #303 by Fatchu:



What? Plenty of people have contributed well to this game, by this time, your contribuation has been poor at best.

Then prove it. How do you expect us to think you are even attempting to contribute if you made multiple hateful, flame-like posts on this thread? And most other people have contributed well to this game, you are not one of them.



Most members have said a lot here and all of them have been saying someting of value. You on the other hand, have made yourself a prime target to be lynched and remained that way until my outlanish posts arrived.

*more nodding*

Post #326 by Fatchu:



Ryker has not shown any scummy behavior on this thread since the Ryker Vs. Vreal arguement. Therefore, he does not need anymore investigation done on him. Also, while Nicholas quick claims are unecessary, he did have legimate reasons for doing so.

Actually, I'm going to disagree. The claim question was unnecessary, and a big mistake on my part.

This was all I could find. I searched through the end of the Ryker Vs. Vreal arguement to now. Based on these conclusion, I Vote: Fatchu. Not because I want a quick lynch, it's because of his scummy behavior he has presented in this thread.

Also, FoS: ChibiCat.

@Bunglefever: While Nicholas did propose an quick claim, I was the one who made the very poor decision to attempt to lynch Fatchu without any real evidence supported. Now I have voted him again, but this time, I actually give out evidences above of why I voted him.

All in all, a good post. While no one part of it is really new, it sums up the case against Fatchu excellently, and adds some good points in on other things as well. +1 for SSBF.

@ssbf:


response to 270: I have not been attacking other players, besides how was what I was doing different from rykers attacks on vreal, asking if he had been lynched yet?

But you were being rude. Rude behaviors can lead to other people being suspicious of you and therefore, voting you. How you were different was that Ryker was just arguing with Vreal after Ryker's joke on him. You on the other hand threw a fit at basically everyone and as a result, people noticed it and critiscized you for your actions. Downplaying the town is especially offensive.

272: There were several people at the time who could be scum, I was holding back on casting a vote until I relized who should be dead first.

That's true. During your stage of this day, me, you, ChibiCat, Nicholas, and early on, Ryker had some form of scummines. Ryker and Nicholas manage to clean up there acts (Nicholas is starting to do that). Me, you, and ChibiCat are still prime susicpions of the nine in this stage.

If you're like "What are you saying about stages?", I'll try to briefly explain from how I see this:

Stage I: Random Voting Stage
Stage II: Ryker Vs. Vreal
Stage III: Ryker Vs. Fatchu (You)
Stage IV: Fatchu's (Yours) outlanish statements.
Stage V: Super Smash Bros. Fan's (Mine) outlanish statements
Stage VI: Fatchu Vs. Super Smash Bros. Fan (You Vs. Me). This can be considered a stage if this debate between you and me were to continue for awhile.

277: At that point I had been defending myself againest other peoples points, however we still had to wait for lurkers and non posters to say something and for me to respond.

In that case, you should have continued to defend yourself, because with your attitude there, nobody would have sticken up for you. I do admit that lurkers like me at the time should have been posting responses, but it's not entirely their fault you were closed to getting lynched.

303: At The game has gone from rvs, to ryker v. vreal, then ryker v. me, alot more has happened since then so that reference is unnessessary.

I'll give you that.

326: So your saying we should forget his previous actions and just forget about them? No I wont also what were the "legitimate reasons" for nichs quick claim?

No, not that. What I am saying that more recent actions are where more people would take evidences from. Ever since your outlanish's posts, Nicholas has declined in scumminess, which is why he is not my target or even FoS.

This is the legimate reason Nicholas was talking about:

Has Fatchu claimed yet? From a quick read-through of his latest posts, I'd be willing to hammer. He's not even trying to contribute, despite 20 pages of discussion.

My arguement is above.

Another good post. Aside from the bit about my offering to hammer being legit (NEVER hammer this early. NEVER. I had the deadline here wrong. I thought it was only in another couple days when we had 6 days left. HUGE error on my part.), it's pretty spot-on. The stage idea is a nice way to organize things, so if it works for you, then do it. (I might steal that idea for myself, actually...)

@Fatchu: How can you not take his post seriously? He spent a lot of time gathering up those posts and all of them are very good responses. Sure, it would be nice if he had them all, but seriously, fifteen pages of quotes and solid responses aren't good enough for you?

Very true, and later echoed by Bungle.




Meanwhile, Fatchu is just digging himself a deeper hole...

@ssbf:


response to 270: I have not been attacking other players, besides how was what I was doing different from rykers attacks on vreal, asking if he had been lynched yet?

SSBF summed this up nicely. It wasn't that you were attacking people, it was the form of the attacks. It wasn't a "You're scummy because of X" attack, but more just plain rude behavior and attacks without reasoning to back it up.

272: There were several people at the time who could be scum, I was holding back on casting a vote until I relized who should be dead first.

You should have a #1 suspect, or if you don't, just pick one of your top suspects at random and pressure them. Votes are excellent for pressure, always use them.

277: At that point I had been defending myself againest other peoples points, however we still had to wait for lurkers and non posters to say something and for me to respond.

Keep defending, and point out who's scummy with reasoning. If you don't have an idea, by all means, pressure a lurker.

303: At The game has gone from rvs, to ryker v. vreal, then ryker v. me, alot more has happened since then so that reference is unnessessary.

*shrug*

326: So your saying we should forget his previous actions and just forget about them? No I wont also what were the "legitimate reasons" for nichs quick claim?

No, and there isn't one. The claim was a mistake on my part. Always keep previous actions in mind, but don't forget to evaluate the new ones as well.

@ bungle: Right now my suspisions are as follows:

SSBF: Even when I was saying stupid stuff, there was no reason to hammer at d1

Nich: Trying to force a claim this early was very stupid as well.

Vreal: After his argument with ryker he has fallen under the rader and not posted as much, and then jumped on the bandwagon for me to get lynched, its like hes trying to avoid confrontations.


right now my vote is on ssbf, if he is scum nich is as well, if not vreal is so its either:


ssbf/nich ( my prime suspision)
ssbf/vreal
nich/vreal.

No suspicion on Chibi or MetaKirby? Admittedly, the claim was a mistake on my part, but that's hardly a lynch-worthy mistake. I really don't like how you're automatically tunneling that "My top suspects must be scum." Still though, you're arguments on Vrael and SSBF do hold some merit.

So your going to make a vote in a game after only reading half the game?? You need to read all of it for your opnion to be taken seriously.

FAIL. You're trying to discredit the best-thought out and reasoned post in the whole game with that little nitpick? The fact that it targets you as #1 scummiest only adds to your scumminess.


Other tidbits:
It's nice to see Bungle back in action. Haven't seen anything wrong with Bungle's posts so far, and there's some good points in them.

Chibi cat is awesome. Can't wait for the next installment.

Paprika Killer doesn't post much, and doesn't have all that much when he does post. Just a one-liner here, and a couple of sentences there, saying stuff that's obvious. FoS

Vrael needs to give us an opinion on what's happened since he left. Meta Kirby and Kirbyoshi need to become more active as well.

@Ryker
Does this count as stepping my game up? Sorry for the delay in my analysis.

Overall standings change:
SSBF is becoming less scummy in my eyes. He's still up there due to the hammer, but I'm beginning to consider newbie mistake.
Fatchu is still at the top. He just can't get any higher.
Nice to see Bungle and Chibi cat back. They've gone down on the scumlist.
Paprika Killer is rising steadily. He needs to give some serious content to get back down.
Meta Kirby and Kirbyoshi are going up as well due to their lack of activity.
Vrael has stayed somewhat level due to his claimed V/LA. However, he'd better deliver some content ASAP.
Haven't seen as much from Ryker and Rockin lately as I'd hoped. They're still on the townie side, but I want to see more about recent events from them.

Top suspicions:
1)Fatchu
2)Paprika Killer
3)SSBF
4)Meta Kirby
5)Kirbyoshi

That's a wrap, folks.

@mod
Votecount please

 

[Fatchu]

I am at 6 votes right now, someone else could come in and hammer without chbi completing his investigation.

 

[Fatchu]

*As nich continues to urge to get this day over and done with asap* when is the deadline again?

 

[Clownbot]

Last second of March 18th.

Also, you're not at six votes. >_> In the last votecount you only had two votes, and only two more people have voted you since then. Also not sure, but Vrael and/or Bungle may have even unvoted you.

 

[DtJ Jungle]

I haven't unvoted, nor do I want to.

 

[M.K]

You know, in a game like this, you hate to say "OMFG I agree" but god **** ChibiCat, that was nearly everything I think about this game. Yeah, that sounds horrible, but it is.
Nich, I agree with many of your points as well. I apologize for my inactivity; I found the game a bit difficult to get into at the beginning and, like others pointed out, we've had a rough start. Also had some IRL johns, but those shouldn't be used on the internet just because I made this commitment as well. I will definitely try to be more active; balancing two games at once is hard @_@ (lol nub)

Scum-spicions:
1) Fatchu
2) SSBF
Distant, distant, distant 3) Nich

1) Fatchu:
This appeal to emotion is pretty common in desperate scum. Also, I don't really like how, with the most substantial post coming from ChibiCat, Fatchu is quick to find fault with it. This looks like scum wishing to pass the "attention" to another member. All of the anti-town statements when confronted were either dumb, crazily fretful Town or, more likely, scum trying to act on emotion.

2) SSBF:
Sorry to anyone who disagrees, but I really, REALLY REALLY do NOT like the fact that he almost hammered Fatchu. NO MATTER if it had been the hammer vote or NOT, he clearly (and it even states, "Which makes seven") had the intention of lynching way, way too early. Also, his re-entrance post from V/LA status was incredibly horrible, giving us almost nothing to work on. At least 3 names, even more actually, were nothing but "Nothingness" or "not worth mentioning". This is incredibly irksome to me. Fatchu and SSBF, in reality, are a very very very close 1st and 2nd.

3) Nich:
The early claim request. That's all I can say about you, and I do believe your claim that it was just a fluke. He did have alot of votes, I presume, but it's also sorta a scummy thing to do, almost a fishing attempt. However, you are so distant that it's almost negligible to suggest your lynch over the two listed above.

So yes, I believe that either SSBF or Fatchu should go.

 

[Fatchu]

I just counted Im at 5 or 6, I know you need 7 but someone could sneak one in. Vrael has not unvoted me, I dont think bungle has either, correct me if i wrong though.

 

[Clownbot]

...Whaaaaat?

Tell me who has their votes on you.

 

[Fatchu]

ninja'd obviously lol.

 

[Clownbot]

...

Again, what?