Smash Bros Direct on April 8th, 3pm PST!!

[Sehnsucht]

REGGIE IS READY... ARE YOU??

For some reason, I prefer this Final Smash over Zero Suit Samus'.

 

[Pega-pony Princess]

I strongly disagree. I understand your point about how sparsely populated the Bionis was in places - however, there were clearly technical limitations to releasing on the Wii, and the scope of the game is phenomenal considering the hardware it ran on. Personally I found Xenoblade to be one of the most innovative and engaging RPGs I've played in a long, long time, and it made a lot of interesting choices, particularly in regards to combat, that really paid off. I truly do consider it a masterpiece, and it would seem many others feel the same. It's a fantastic new franchise for Nintendo and with X looking to be a fantastic game I believe Shulk deserves his place - partly for the potential available in his moveset, and partly as the most notable representative of one of the most critically acclaimed JRPGs in recent memory. I don't see any reason that he isn't deserving of a spot, though it's cool if you're not a fan.

I agree. Personally, I liked how sparse Bionis was strangely enough. Like any good video game, I really felt really immersed into the storyline, like I was traveling along with Shulk and the others. Despite the limitations, the graphics were still amazing for being on the wii. Plus, sights like these made my jaw drop:

Spoiler

 

[Eight Melodies]

 

[Banjodorf]

I agree. Personally, I liked how sparse Bionis was strangely enough. Like any good video game, I really felt really immersed into the storyline, like I was traveling along with Shulk and the others. Despite the limitations, the graphics were still amazing for being on the wii. Plus, sights like these made my jaw drop:

Spoiler

Wasn't the reason for Bionis' lower population addressed in the game? Because only a couple of colonies were left after the last huge Mechon attack? That, and technical limitations the Wii had made perfect sense to me. I was often shocked that this was even able to be a Wii game with how beautiful they made it.

 

[Lozjam]

Hey guys less than

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Though is cool if you're not a fan? He wasn't trying to "offend" any fans, and one shouldn't be acting like it was 'acceptable' for him to have an opinion. Being a fan has nothing to do with it. Bravely Default was more critically acclaimed and its a newer Nintendo JRPG. Who's to say that wouldn't be a better representation? Each character in that game has access to 23 different "jobs" and so the possibilities for that are even more immense.

I think its rather going to be based off two factors: WTF characters for shock value, as well the best representation of Nintendo's history.

Shulk would be a fine character, I don't disagree with that. But there are other yellow hair contenders that just seem to make sense after having a longer history of Nintendo.

I didn't make out that he'd tried to offend anybody - you needn't be so touchy. And seriously, Bravely Default more critically acclaimed? It averaged 8s and 9s. Xenoblade averaged 9s and 10s. Looking at it right there, at it's most basic level, it's clear that Xenoblade was the more acclaimed. But who cares? I love it, you don't. My point was that the audience is there for Xenoblade, as is the potential moveset. Not to mention that it could act as effective promotion for the sequel this year, an obvious benefit to Nintendo. It would make sense that they may choose to represent such an acclaimed game, but who knows?

 

[Dark Phazon]

Nintendo of America's live YouTube stream. Less lag than using their dedicated Ustream page.

What about NoE?

 

[Banjodorf]

Isn't Xenoblade a bit more first party than Golden Sun (which I thought was second party) or am I completely missing something?

Also, people need to chill out, because Shulk and Isaac aren't in competition.

 

[Starphoenix]

What about NoE?

Every region is going to have a stream: NoA, NoE and NCL. Japan just happens to have their stream up first. Just go to the respective YouTube channel around the time of the stream.

 

[MopedOfJustice]

I would actually love it if Chibi-Robo were revealed tomorrow. I've got a soft spot for him, haha. Plus, a turret-based moveset could be awesome.

We already have a turret-based character

I don't want another one.

 

[Deleted member]

I was often shocked that this was even able to be a Wii game with how beautiful they made it.

I disagree. The textures made it resemble a slightly enhanced PS2 game. I was much more impressed with The Last Story's graphics, which are the best I've seen on the Wii so far.

On Topic: From my experience, situations like this can be very suspenseful.

@ MopedOfJustice : We already have a bajillion sword-based characters. We can have more turrets.

 

[Saito]

My point was that the audience is there for Xenoblade, as is the potential moveset. Not to mention that it could act as effective promotion for the sequel this year, an obvious benefit to Nintendo. It would make sense that they may choose to represent such an acclaimed game, but who knows?

I love me some bravely default. But I don't think they have a chance making it in smash.

More ontopic... If its between Shulk and Issac I'm prone to say that Shulk is more likely. Just a hunch.

 

[StreetPassWanter]

I want Neku in Smash, but it'll never happen.

 

[toonist22]

well apparently there's a song

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

Though is cool if you're not a fan? He wasn't trying to "offend" any fans, and one shouldn't be acting like it was 'acceptable' for him to have an opinion. Being a fan has nothing to do with it. Bravely Default was more critically acclaimed and its a newer Nintendo JRPG. Who's to say that wouldn't be a better representation? Each character in that game has access to 23 different "jobs" and so the possibilities for that are even more immense.

I think its rather going to be based off two factors: WTF characters for shock value, as well the best representation of Nintendo's history.

Shulk would be a fine character, I don't disagree with that. But there are other yellow hair contenders that just seem to make sense after having a longer history of Nintendo.

I'm totally fine with either Shulk or Isaac, but isn't recency kind of better than having a series with long history? Golden Sun hasn't had a game in a while, and the fact that Xenoblade is getting a spiritual sequel should guarantee that Monolith Soft is going to be working with Nintendo for a long time, which means a long continuation of the Xenoblade series.

Oh, and Bravely Default isn't a Nintendo game.

I disagree. The textures made it resemble a slightly enhanced PS2 game. I was much more impressed with The Last Story's graphics, which are the best I've seen on the Wii so far.

On Topic: From my experience, situations like this can be very suspenseful.

@ MopedOfJustice : We already have a bajillion sword-based characters. We can have more turrets.

Well, the game is open world, which sacrificed the graphical fidelity for a large-scale open world. The Last Story featured beautiful graphics, but it suffered from a lot of frame drops.

 

[Trick or Treat]

Unlike everyone else, the days have gone by very quickly for me, because I've been at work or out with friends.
Tomorrow I work 1-6, and 6 o'clock is when the Direct starts. So tomorrow won't be slow either.

 

[Katy Parry]

I didn't make out that he'd tried to offend anybody - you needn't be so touchy. And seriously, Bravely Default more critically acclaimed? It averaged 8s and 9s. Xenoblade averaged 9s and 10s. Looking at it right there, at it's most basic level, it's clear that Xenoblade was the more acclaimed. But who cares? I love it, you don't. My point was that the audience is there for Xenoblade, as is the potential moveset. Not to mention that it could act as effective promotion for the sequel this year, an obvious benefit to Nintendo. It would make sense that they may choose to represent such an acclaimed game, but who knows?

But you see? I never implied I didn't like it - or love it. You assumed that because I didn't agree with you.

And once again, we're comparing Apples and Oranges, but they're both fruit. Ratings out of tens from animistic "reviewers" isn't equal to being critically acclaimed. So many of those companies are paid off to highly praise certain types of games. Regardless, its more recent, but I'm not going to debate that with you here.

 

[Saito]

Unlike everyone else, the days have gone by very quickly for me, because I've been at work or out with friends.
Tomorrow I work 1-6, and 6 o'clock is when the Direct starts. So tomorrow won't be slow either.

Implying everyone else's day has been going slow.

Feels like normal time for me.
Actually pretty fast since this thread is moving fast.

Keeps me entertained and I've been sitting here for like 3 hours.

I haven't even begun to start up my maximum time killing activities.

 

[Katy Parry]

I'm totally fine with either Shulk or Isaac, but isn't recency kind of better than having a series with long history? Golden Sun hasn't had a game in a while, and the fact that Xenoblade is getting a spiritual sequel should guarantee that Monolith Soft is going to be working with Nintendo for a long time, which means a long continuation of the Xenoblade series.

Oh, and Bravely Default isn't a Nintendo game.


Well, the game is open world, which sacrificed graphical fidelity for scale.

It's a published Nintendo title. This is just as a Nintendo title as is Xenoblade, as is Golden Sun. They are all published by Nintendo and developed by second/third party companies.

This particular one was developed by Silicon Studio, and published by Nintendo in America/Europe.

 

[The Slayer]

well apparently there's a song

That song is glorified with auto-tune. Someone's voice must be very terrible to result into that.

 

[The Real Gamer]

And tomorrow I'll be playing TITANFALL all damn day!

Can't friggin waittttttttttttttttttttttttt

 

[RelaxAlax]

Guys.

I just realized.

What if ... this is... the beginning of


THE YEAR OF SMASH BROTHERS?!

 

[CyberWolfBia]

Guys.

I just realized.

What if ... this is... the beginning of


THE YEAR OF SMASH BROTHERS?!

:OOOOOOOO

 

[EmbersToAshes]

But you see? I never implied I didn't like it - or love it. You assumed that because I didn't agree with you.

And once again, we're comparing Apples and Oranges, but they're both fruit. Ratings out of tens from animistic "reviewers" isn't equal to being critically acclaimed. So many of those companies are paid off to highly praise certain types of games. Regardless, its more recent, but I'm not going to debate that with you here.

It's a base measure of the acclaim designated to a game. Bravely wasn't measured as highly as Xenoblade. Simple as. It's clear you're being as picky about my wording as you can, however, to incite some form of argument, so there's no point in continuing such a conversation with you. I couldn't give a **** if you like, love or loathe the series - that was never the point I was making. You chose, however, to get narky about my wording for the sake of it.

Oh, and you're wrong. Bravely isn't a Nintendo game, it's Square Enix. Xenoblade IS a Nintendo game, as Nintendo own Monolith Soft.

 

[leprechaunlink727]

Am I the only one here who thinks Shulk has no chance? I mean I'll gladly eat my words tomorrow if he shows up in the direct, but he seems like far too niche a character to be considered a "Nintendo All-Star". He could be an Assist Trophy for sure, and indeed, so far all of the Nintendo characters from series as obscure as his have been. Most people, maybe not on this board, but out in the general public, will just go "What the hell, who?" if he is announced, which is not particularly "hype". I'm not trying to start an argument with any of his supporters, more power to you. I'm just saying I really don't think it's gonna happen. And if he is in the game, I doubt he'll be announced tomorrow.

 

[Luigi#1]

well apparently there's a song

This is so addicting.

 

[StreetPassWanter]

Everyone should sing this and send .mp3s in. I could put them all together have like a mini chorus. If you want to do it, send PMs to me. I don't know if it'll happen before the Direct or if anyone will even do it, but if you want to, do it.

 

[cmbsfm]

I booked some disappointment cabs for all of us just in case. But right now I'm enjoying the hype train. God I can't wait why does there have to be school tomorrow!

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Everyone should sing this and send .mp3s in. I could put them all together have like a mini chorus.

Best thing I've ever heard.

:')

 

[SpindaMaster]

It's a published Nintendo title. This is just as a Nintendo title as is Xenoblade, as is Golden Sun. They are all published by Nintendo and developed by second/third party companies.

This particular one was developed by Silicon Studio, and published by Nintendo in America/Europe.

The game was published by Nintendo in America and Europe only. In Japan it was Square Enix. Silicon Studio made it for Square Enix. Really, Bravely Default is in the same boat as Professor Layton, just not as requested/likely.

 

[Katy Parry]

It's a base measure of the acclaim designated to a game. Bravely wasn't measured as highly as Xenoblade. Simple as. It's clear you're being as picky about my wording as you can, however, to incite some form of argument, so there's no point in continuing such a conversation with you. I couldn't give a **** if you like, love or loathe the series - that was never the point I was making. You chose, however, to get narky about my wording for the sake of it.

This is a forum, so yes, I am going to pay close attention to your wording. I wasn't getting 'narky' about anything - I was simply making a point that what he originally stated was valid. By you saying something like 'its cool if you don't like it' or 'I like it, you don't, that's fine' is a contender to the point you were making because its in your wording.

No need to get upset or anything. Just making conversation to pass time until the direct anyway.

The game was published by Nintendo in America and Europe only. In Japan it was Square Enix. Silicon Studio made it for Square Enix. Really, Bravely Default is in the same boat as Professor Layton, just not as requested/likely.

Oh, trust me, I know its not likely. But I was just making a point. It is still considered a Nintendo game because Nintendo published it.

 

[Opossum]

We already have a turret-based character

I don't want another one.

Looks like I wasn't clear enough. Basically, Chibi-Robo would be like an actual turret. He'd plug himself in with his Down Special, and while in this state, he would have more powered up moves, reduced knockback, and electrical powers, at the expense of no jumps and shorter range. The trade off would be the opposite. That's essentially what I meant.

 

[Saito]

It's okay guys.

Bravely default won't be in smash but it's already set to get a sequel.

Back on topic.

Issac or Shulk

Personally I think Link's cooler than both of them though.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Our saviors.

 

[Katy Parry]

This is a forum, so yes, I am going to pay close attention to your wording. I wasn't getting 'narky' about anything - I was simply making a point that what he originally stated was valid. By you saying something like 'its cool if you don't like it' or 'I like it, you don't, that's fine' is a contender to the point you were making because its in your wording.

No need to get upset or anything. Just making conversation to pass time until the direct anyway.

It's okay guys.

Bravely default won't be in smash but it's already set to get a sequel.

Back on topic.

Issac or Shulk

Don't feed the fire, lol. This isn't the place for that.

 

[Deleted member]

Am I the only one here who thinks Shulk has no chance? I mean I'll gladly eat my words tomorrow if he shows up in the direct, but he seems like far too niche a character to be considered a "Nintendo All-Star". He could be an Assist Trophy for sure, and indeed, so far all of the Nintendo characters from series as obscure as his have been. Most people, maybe not on this board, but out in the general public, will just go "What the hell, who?" if he is announced, which is not particularly "hype". I'm not trying to start an argument with any of his supporters, more power to you. I'm just saying I really don't think it's gonna happen. And if he is in the game, I doubt he'll be announced tomorrow.

I know for fact that Shulk wouldn't be the first character that would get "Who is this weirdo?!" reactions. For example, as far as I know, Ness wasn't very popular before Smash 64.

 

[ChibiIceClimberz]

It's a published Nintendo title. This is just as a Nintendo title as is Xenoblade, as is Golden Sun. They are all published by Nintendo and developed by second/third party companies.

Published by =/= Owned by.

Bravely Default is developed by third-party Square Enix, published by Square Enix in Japan, published by Nintendo overseas, and trademarked by Square Enix, thus it is third-party title. It has no relation with Nintendo whatsoever besides being published by Nintendo.

Xenoblade is developed by Nintendo-owned Monolith Soft, published by Nintendo worldwide, trademarked by Nintendo, thus it's first-party. It's as first-party as Mario, Zelda, Metroid, or Fire Emblem.

Golden Sun is developed by third-party Camelot Software, published by Nintendo worldwide, trademarked by Nintendo, thus it's first party. It's also as first-party as the four series listed above, except it's developed by a third-party studio.

 

[BluePikmin11]

It's okay guys.

Bravely default won't be in smash but it's already set to get a sequel.

Back on topic.

Issac or Shulk

Personally I think Link's cooler than both of them though.

Shulk by miles buddy.

 

[EmbersToAshes]

Looks like I wasn't clear enough. Basically, Chibi-Robo would be like an actual turret. He'd plug himself in with his Down Special, and while in this state, he would have more powered up moves, reduced knockback, and electrical powers, at the expense of no jumps and shorter range. The trade off would be the opposite. That's essentially what I meant.

That actually sounds really clever, and completely unlike anyone we have already. I had pretty much no interest in him until I read this.

 

[Hinata]

It's okay guys.

Bravely default won't be in smash but it's already set to get a sequel.

Back on topic.

Issac or Shulk

Personally I think Link's cooler than both of them though.

I'm on the side of Issac. I think he'd have much more potential than Shulk. But then again, I haven't played Shulk's source game, so whatevs.