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Smash Bros Direct on April 8th, 3pm PST!!

EmbersToAshes

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Nice comparison. that is also a possibility.
In the context of a trailer building hype for a game that looks to be a sequel to Xenoblade, it wouldn't make sense to 'fake-out' the very people they need to buy their game in such a manner. I haven't played Kingdom Hearts myself, but the reception to the similarity between the two is more confusion than anything positive. I don't believe Monolith would want to upset fans by having them believe a character is in the game, when they have no intention of including him. It doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint.
 

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Am I a bad person for not wanting Layton?

I mean, he's a better choice than Pac Man, and while most of his games are on Nintendo consoles, he doesn't have that long history the other third parties have. Also, his popularity doesn't come close to that of Sonic, Mega Man, or even Snake.
No one is a bad person for having a different opinion.

There is nothing wrong with not wanting a character in smash.
 

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CHOO CHOO MOTHERF***ERS

I AM SO READY FOR TOMORROW

or I would be if I didn't have an exam to take. >.>

ALL ABOARD THE HYPE TRAIN!
 

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I sure can't wait to see Snake's design in this game tomorrow.

Yep, that is definitely going to happen.
 

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I've been trying to pass the time trophy hunting in subspace . . .

DAMMIT BULLET BILLS WHY ARE THEY SO HARD TO CATCH~!!!!
 

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Unlike Wright, Layton actually has established fighting prowess and agility in his own games. While I wouldn't want them to do this, you could easily make him a Marth clone. I'm not even kidding.
Ah, another Layton Brother! Welcome to the Madness again.

Let's be rooting for our favorite Professor tomorrow!
 

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Well, I just got Super Mario World for the Wii-U. Ima go kill some major time right now. Later guys!
That game is BRILLIANT! You will definitely pass the time quickly with it. I couldn't put it down.

Just a little over 21 hours left. I think I'm gonna play Metroid 2 on my 3DS while I wait.
 

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I'm not buying into the Xenoblade for Smash hype. That game had a lot of fundamental problems even though there were some enjoyable aspects such as the music, and for a brief moment I actually felt like I was playing an RPG that shared the same kind of vision with the ones that I grew up with. The game actually started out really great. Yet, by the time you have Sharla in your party, it has already devolved into the usual JRPG archetypes and tropes (the completely unnecessary irrelevant Nopom joining your party was the last nail in that coffin.) The massive draw distances are pretty cool but the Bionis was so sparsely populated and barren that there is nothing significant to do besides the long-ass walk to the next destination with no relief or pay-off; Contrast with Final Fantasy X, which featured a trans-continental pilgrimage but it always kept you engaged in the locales of the game. Even in Wind Waker you could at least cruise control long enough to take a bathroom break.

And ugh, the number of times Munado is said is freaking ridiculous to the point of being off-putting.

It's really not a bad game. It's okay to really like this game. Is it a masterpiece? No. Far from it. Does Shulk have a place in Smash, though? How can you justify that? You can say, "Well, he'd have a really cool moveset!" but where are you getting this from? His sci-fi Xboxhuge? He's as vanilla JRPG characters come. Taking his place could easily be almost any other confident blonde JRPG main character, from Tidus, to Max from Dark Chronicle/Dark Cloud 2, to Dart from Legend of Dragoon, that would actually have character development and significance in their domain. The fact that Nintendo finally has one of their own confident blonde JRPG main characters just isn't grounds for his inclusion. As long as he could bring something interesting and new to Smash Bros., I could be okay with him being in, but I just don't see that happening. Take your fanboi goggles off for a second.
 
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Pazzo.

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Well mentlegen, I'm off to play EarthBound to pass the time. I'll say hi to the zombies for y'all.

I will be ready for this!
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Your avatar.... XD!! Classic man, classic!
 
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I'm not buying into the Xenoblade for Smash hype. That game had a lot of fundamental problems even though there were some enjoyable aspects such as the music, and for a brief moment I actually felt like I was playing an RPG that shared the same kind of vision with the ones that I grew up with. The game actually started out really great. Yet, by the time you have Sharla in your party, it has already devolved into the usual JRPG archetypes and tropes. The massive draw distances are pretty cool but the Bionis was so sparsely populated and barren that there is nothing significant to do besides the long-*** walk to the next destination with no relief or pay-off; Contrast with Final Fantasy X, which featured a trans-continental pilgrimage but it always kept you engaged in the locales of the game. Even in Wind Waker you could at least cruise control long enough to take a bathroom break.

And ugh, the number of times Munado is said is freaking ridiculous to the point of being off-putting.

It's really not a bad game. It's okay to really like this game. Is it a masterpiece? No. Far from it. Does Shulk have a place in Smash, though? How can you justify that? You can say, "Well, he'd have a really cool moveset!" but where are you getting this from? His sci-fi Xboxhuge? He's as vanilla JRPG characters come. Taking his place could easily be almost any other confident blonde JRPG main character, from Tidus, to Max from Dark Chronicle/Dark Cloud 2, to Dart from Legend of Dragoon, that would actually have character development and significance in their domain. The fact that Nintendo finally has one of their own confident blonde JRPG main characters just isn't grounds for his inclusion. As long as he could bring something interesting and new to Smash Bros., I could be okay with him being in, but I just don't see that happening. Take your fanboi goggles off for a second.
Technically I'd say Issac/Golden Sun is closer to a JRPG representation, and he's already been there for over 10 years.
 

EmbersToAshes

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I'm not buying into the Xenoblade for Smash hype. That game had a lot of fundamental problems even though there were some enjoyable aspects such as the music, and for a brief moment I actually felt like I was playing an RPG that shared the same kind of vision with the ones that I grew up with. The game actually started out really great. Yet, by the time you have Sharla in your party, it has already devolved into the usual JRPG archetypes and tropes. The massive draw distances are pretty cool but the Bionis was so sparsely populated and barren that there is nothing significant to do besides the long-*** walk to the next destination with no relief or pay-off; Contrast with Final Fantasy X, which featured a trans-continental pilgrimage but it always kept you engaged in the locales of the game. Even in Wind Waker you could at least cruise control long enough to take a bathroom break.

And ugh, the number of times Munado is said is freaking ridiculous to the point of being off-putting.

It's really not a bad game. It's okay to really like this game. Is it a masterpiece? No. Far from it. Does Shulk have a place in Smash, though? How can you justify that? You can say, "Well, he'd have a really cool moveset!" but where are you getting this from? His sci-fi Xboxhuge? He's as vanilla JRPG characters come. Taking his place could easily be almost any other confident blonde JRPG main character, from Tidus, to Max from Dark Chronicle/Dark Cloud 2, to Dart from Legend of Dragoon, that would actually have character development and significance in their domain. The fact that Nintendo finally has one of their own confident blonde JRPG main characters just isn't grounds for his inclusion. As long as he could bring something interesting and new to Smash Bros., I could be okay with him being in, but I just don't see that happening. Take your fanboi goggles off for a second.
I strongly disagree. I understand your point about how sparsely populated the Bionis was in places - however, there were clearly technical limitations to releasing on the Wii, and the scope of the game is phenomenal considering the hardware it ran on. Personally I found Xenoblade to be one of the most innovative and engaging RPGs I've played in a long, long time, and it made a lot of interesting choices, particularly in regards to combat, that really paid off. I truly do consider it a masterpiece, and it would seem many others feel the same. It's a fantastic new franchise for Nintendo and with X looking to be a fantastic game I believe Shulk deserves his place - partly for the potential available in his moveset, and partly as the most notable representative of one of the most critically acclaimed JRPGs in recent memory. I don't see any reason that he isn't deserving of a spot, though it's cool if you're not a fan.
 

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As long as he could bring something interesting and new to Smash Bros., I could be okay with him being in, but I just don't see that happening. Take your fanboi goggles off for a second.
Technically he would have to be in the game for us to figure that out. From outsider perspective he just wields a sword. Would be up to the devs to make him more interesting than just marth v2

People get hype from games they like regardless if they devolve into the "usual JRPG tropes and shenanigans"

Hell, some people love those things.
 
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You forgot Cloud and Naruto
OBJECTION! Cloud appeared in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for GBA and Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy for 3DS. Still, he isn't very likely.


On Topic: I'll probably clear some backlog while I wait for the direct.
 

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I've [unless it rains] got tennis tomorrow, so I'm just leaving this here now. If it doesn't rain, I'll just catch it on the eShop to avoid spoilers. If it does, I'll be here.
 

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Don't skip school kids.
It means you'll have longer to wait.
 

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OBJECTION! Cloud appeared in Kingdom Hearts: Chain of Memories for GBA and Theatrhythm: Final Fantasy for 3DS. Still, he isn't very likely.


On Topic: I'll probably clear some backlog while I wait for the direct.
I'm aware. Trust me, that was drilled into my brain.
I don't think glorified cameos count.
 

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T Minus.... 21ish hours to go. It feels like the day before Christmas!

Let's just hope it's not like Christmas this year. I got a flash drive and some bacon.

As long as I get some form of FalcoIkeMetaKnightPokemonTrainerYoshiWolfMewtwoTakamaruShulkPalutenaChromRobinRidley, It'll be the best Christmas ever!
 

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Ridley tomorrow or riot. Your choice Sakurai. The power is yours.
 

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I strongly disagree. I understand your point about how sparsely populated the Bionis was in places - however, there were clearly technical limitations to releasing on the Wii, and the scope of the game is phenomenal considering the hardware it ran on. Personally I found Xenoblade to be one of the most innovative and engaging RPGs I've played in a long, long time, and it made a lot of interesting choices, particularly in regards to combat, that really paid off. I truly do consider it a masterpiece, and it would seem many others feel the same. It's a fantastic new franchise for Nintendo and with X looking to be a fantastic game I believe Shulk deserves his place - partly for the potential available in his moveset, and partly as the most notable representative of one of the most critically acclaimed JRPGs in recent memory. I don't see any reason that he isn't deserving of a spot, though it's cool if you're not a fan.

Though is cool if you're not a fan? He wasn't trying to "offend" any fans, and one shouldn't be acting like it was 'acceptable' for him to have an opinion. Being a fan has nothing to do with it. Bravely Default was more critically acclaimed and its a newer Nintendo JRPG. Who's to say that wouldn't be a better representation? Each character in that game has access to 23 different "jobs" and so the possibilities for that are even more immense.

I think its rather going to be based off two factors: WTF characters for shock value, as well the best representation of Nintendo's history.

Shulk would be a fine character, I don't disagree with that. But there are other yellow hair contenders that just seem to make sense after having a longer history of Nintendo.
 

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If Shulk gets in before Isaac, I will be personally offended. Let Shulk wait a good 10 years before he gets in a Smash game.
 
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Who is still hyped? I'm hype as *Netherworld! ... I'm burning! Is like if someone told me that will happen an entire Smash4 Direct tomorrow! ... WAIT! THIS IS TRUE?! Hhhhhhhng....

*Thing of Pac-Man fan, I guess
 
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