Snail
Smash Lord
PT has a lot of ATs with shellshifts and stuff, Olimar only has the whistle armor and some tether tricks. And pluck cancel, lol.
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Smash Back Room Weekly Character Discussions! FINAL UPDATES: Ness + Lucas. All done!!
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M3ta 0wnt
Smash Rookie
I've always found Ike to be not so hard to beat. As a Meta knight player, Ike is easy to overwelm with short hop attacks and tornados. Ike is also easy to defend against as well (well at least for me) because of his slow moves. Now I'm not saying Ike is a bad characte, he just doesn't have a very complex moveset.
And about Meta knight. It was said it was hard for him to KO people. That is true, but if you can just smash someone off the stage a little, you can use your superior jumping power to intercept quite easily while there trying to recover. And with characters with worse recoveries such as marth, edge hogging is just as easy.
And about Meta knight. It was said it was hard for him to KO people. That is true, but if you can just smash someone off the stage a little, you can use your superior jumping power to intercept quite easily while there trying to recover. And with characters with worse recoveries such as marth, edge hogging is just as easy.
Zephramrill
Smash Lord
Never say a character is easy to defeat and then follow it with, as a Meta Knight player 
NinjaFoxX
Banned via Warnings
M@v
Subarashii!
ill rofl if it isnt yoshi. That would be such a cruel joke to you poor yoshi guys.
Mmac
Smash Lord
Why do I think it's some sort of diversion?
Stealth Raptor
Smash Legend
Because i called it forever ago that they may pull a omg why did you guys believe me? -.- though to be quite honest it still looks like yoshi regardless. just dont expect guys in purple to always tell the truth.
infomon
Smash Scientist
Translation:
10iceclimbers
10iceclimbers
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
lol nice pic. HAH i just noticed it said tarp instead of trap. If it isn't Yoshi then I'm not counting it as an incorrect on my streak 
cus i trust the SBR and Dazwa is saying its Yoshi.
Yoshi woot!
cus i trust the SBR and Dazwa is saying its Yoshi.Yoshi woot!
Nonsense, we never lie. It's definitely Yoshi.
NESSBOUNDER
Smash Master
I think it's Ice Climbers.
Yoshi isn't really "scary" to some people. In fact most people underestimate him.
The Ice Climbers on the other hand...as soon as you see them you think "OMG CHAIN GRABS!"
Yoshi isn't really "scary" to some people. In fact most people underestimate him.
The Ice Climbers on the other hand...as soon as you see them you think "OMG CHAIN GRABS!"
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
ok then
but really, to those saying its IC: i would say ICs too (but the purples r saying its yoshi) but the thing is, the hint says they have potential right NOW, implying that recently they've gained a lot of potential. ICs always have potential because of desynched combos and such. So ya I dont think its ICs really. Also, i think some of you people are looking at the 'scary to some' too hard. It says CAN be scary to SOME people. and scary isnt a thing thats a fact, its an opinion, so dont look at that sentence so much. any char can be scary to some people. I hope the answer comes out not late
missingnomaster
Smash Lord
Well, Dazwa was right about Mewtwo, so he must be right about this.
Yoshi Kirishima
Smash Lord
Agreed .
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Mmac
Smash Lord
Don't fall for it! It's a devious plot to get our Eggs!
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
Definitely true.
Mmac
Smash Lord
How exactly does Yoshi NOT have potential?
Mmac
Smash Lord
You're telling me that a WaveDash, 0% Kills on the more dominating characters, and tons of Grab Release Options are "Little" Potential?
His "wavedash" is worse the walking. This double jump tech existed in every smash game, for the record.
0% kills = LOL
You'd think that a character that can do that... would do decent in tournaments, regardless of the amount of people who play him, right?
Many characters in general have a good amount of Grab Release options... and the fact that they're almost always never 100% guaranteed doesn't make them completely reliable.
SamuraPanda himself said that Yoshi had potential in the tier thread up thar. And also...
His "wavedash" is worse the walking. This double jump tech existed in every smash game, for the record.
0% kills = LOL
You'd think that a character that can do that... would do decent in tournaments, regardless of the amount of people who play him, right?
Many characters in general have a good amount of Grab Release options... and the fact that they're almost always never 100% guaranteed doesn't make them completely reliable.
How could you think Yoshi is bad after playing Pride?
Morrigan
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Wow, all that and Yoshi is still underused? I wonder why.
WTF PEOPLE, START USING HIM!
SamuraiPanda changes his minds every now and then. Just look at how he placed Yoshi in Low in his 'personal-before-official-release' tier list he made a week ago.
The Halloween Captain
Smash Master
Samurai panda also said he believed just about EVERY character has potential.
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Just because Pride did well with Yoshi doesn't mean that Yoshi is a better character overall, Thio. That's like saying that Chu Dat's (Melee) ICs should be god tier simply because he played them very well (and pretty much pioneered them, but that's beside my point). Last time I checked, Pride finished 17th at a major tournament while playing Yoshi (FAST 1). First place went to a...MK? Dedede? And mind you, everybody at the tourney thought that Pride's Yoshi was beast.
Smooth Criminal
Smooth Criminal
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
Yoshi fanboys, stop arguing and flaming people , Yoshi is just not a good character. Accept it and move on. When you argue against "Yoshi doesn't have much potential", you are pretty much saying that you are a huge noob and don't know what you're talking about.
Mmac
Smash Lord
And yet you have listed no reasons on why Yoshi is such a terrible character.
Morrigan
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infomon
Smash Scientist
To be fair, you can have 0% kill techs that are just massively difficult to pull off. Like ICs, but without all their other strengths
Not sure if it's the case for Yoshi though... but just sayin'.... I'm agreeing with you, I guess
Off-topic: ICs have the strongest smash in the game ftw
Smooth Criminal
Da Cheef
Okay.
1) Yoshi's out of shield game sucks. While it hasn't been that great in any of the Smash games, he particularly suffers for it in Brawl.
2) Draconic Reverse isn't that much better than walking and is little more than a modified boost smash.
3) Mediocre priority all around the board.
4) Not a terribly spammy projectile.
If anybody else wants to start going down the list, feel free to add on.
Smooth Criminal
1) Yoshi's out of shield game sucks. While it hasn't been that great in any of the Smash games, he particularly suffers for it in Brawl.
2) Draconic Reverse isn't that much better than walking and is little more than a modified boost smash.
3) Mediocre priority all around the board.
4) Not a terribly spammy projectile.
If anybody else wants to start going down the list, feel free to add on.
Smooth Criminal
Mmac
Smash Lord
It can make him go almost fast as Sonic's Natural Running speed when used in a multiple succession quickly, and can use any attack out of it.
.... or so Chaco tells me, Haven't really learn DR's myself
x After Dawn x
Smash Master
Nobody has to list reasons, Yoshi is, without a doubt, a bottom tier character, and one of the worst in the game. Anybody who argues otherwise is pretty much a noob or just a biased fanboy who doesn't know what he / she is talking about.