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[Tree Gelbman]

Actually playing Wonderful 101 finally makes me really really really sad it didn't do better.

Such a great game/new IP.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Actually playing Wonderful 101 finally makes me really really really sad it didn't do better.

Such a great game/new IP.

Platinum Games.

They make amazing games that don't sell as much as they deserve. It's a curse.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Platinum Games.

They make amazing games that don't sell as much as they deserve. It's a curse.

Ain't that the truth. The sad thing is to break the curse they'll probably have to end up having to do another company's franchise and get attention that way.

I'm expecting them to be handed keys to a Nintendo franchise at some point.

 

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So, I was the only one trying to spot the Robot Masters huh (I know most of them, expect for that guys in the last few scenes. I'm assuming a Gameboy game.)?
...What have I been doing with my life?!...

Gigamix focuses on a large story arc based on Mega Man V with some elements from MM8. I don't want to spoil anything, but it's a must read if you're a fan of the series or video games in general.

The story is well done, the artwork is beautiful, and the characters all just plain fun to see interact. To compare, Archie Comics is a cartoon, Mega/Gigamix are movies.

 

[Substitution]

Gigamix focuses on a large story arc based on Mega Man V with some elements from MM8. I don't want to spoil anything, but it's a must read if you're a fan of the series or video games in general.

The story is well done, the artwork is beautiful, and the characters all just plain fun to see interact. To compare, Archie Comics is a cartoon, Mega/Gigamix are movies.

...So, it's the manga then?
I'm getting confused here ( I don't mind spoilers, what happens?)...

 

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...So, it's the Archie comics then?
I'm getting confused here (admittedly, I've only read one comic. And it was more of a skim. I don't mind spoilers, what happens?)...

Archie Comics is a separate take on the Classic Mega Man storyline, as is Mega/Gigamix. Archie Comic's take on the series is also really good, but it plays out more like a cartoon in comparison to how Mega/Gigamix treats the story, which is more like a movie. Currently Archie Comics is up to laying the foundation for the story of MM3.

Megamix was the original manga Hitoshi Ariga (a manga artist who's a huge MM fan) wrote during the mid-late 90s (stories are based on MM1,2,6, Soccer, and side stories based on MM3,4,5). Due to demand and popularity, during the late 2000s, he continued the series under the name Gigamix (stories are based on MM3, Battle & Chase with elements from MM7, and MMV with elements from MM8).

 

[Substitution]

Archie Comics is a separate take on the Classic Mega Man storyline, as is Mega/Gigamix. Archie Comic's take on the series is also really good, but it plays out more like a cartoon in comparison to how Mega/Gigamix treats the story, which is more like a movie. Currently Archie Comics is up to laying the foundation for the story of MM3.

Megamix was the original manga Hitoshi Ariga (a manga artist who's a huge MM fan) wrote during the mid-late 90s (stories are based on MM1,2,6, Soccer, and side stories based on MM3,4,5). Due to demand and popularity, during the late 2000s, he continued the series under the name Gigamix (stories are based on MM3, Battle & Chase with elements from MM7, and MMV with elements from MM8).

Already edited.

But, back to the first question. What happens (I don't mind spoilers)?

 

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But, back to the first question. What happens (I don't mind spoilers)?

Very well I'll stick to the main story of Gigamix:

Spoiler

Part 1: Mega Man 3 involves the discovery of 8 Energy Crystals that contain energy that could power the Earth for 1000 years. They're located on an alien asteroid in deep space, and are guarded by mysterious defense system. The UN tasks Dr. Light and Wily (who will be cleared of his crimes against humanity should he help) to travel into space to obtain them. With Mega Man's help, as they travel through space the two scientists build the Robot Gamma (MM3's Final Boss) to destroy the asteroid's defenses. However, Wily wants the crystals himself so betrayal and a big battle on top the asteroid.

Part 2: Years later after the events of MM7, having been awakened due to the asteroid battle, a mysterious Alien Robot (Duo) awakens and travels to Earth to purge the world of evil (aka kill Wily). The Robot proceeds to destroy all of Wily's Robots (pretty much every boss in the series) bar Shadow Man who escapes with Wily after Shade Man and Quick Man sacrifice themselves. Wily, who has been severally wounded, is taken to Dr. Light's to heal. The Robot manages to hunt him down and thus Mega Man and friends proceed to fight it. They defeat it, and the robot explodes revealing the formerly imprisoned Stardroids, who proceed to defeat them.

Part 3: As the Stardroids proceed to destroy the Earth, they prepare their doomsday device: Dark Moon, which will destroy the world in 24 hours. In the meantime all the other characters either re-group or are destroyed.

Part 4: Basically more re-grouping, plot twists, and the final battle. Afterwards, Wily decides to try to conquer the world again, revealing the MM8 Robot Masters.

 

[Substitution]

Very well I'll stick to the main story of Gigamix:

Spoiler

Part 1: Mega Man 3 involves the discovery of 8 Energy Crystals that contain energy that could power the Earth for 1000 years. They're located on an alien asteroid in deep space, and are guarded by mysterious defense system. The UN tasks Dr. Light and Wily (who will be cleared of his crimes against humanity should he help) to travel into space to obtain them. With Mega Man's help, as they travel through space the two scientists build the Robot Gamma (MM3's Final Boss) to destroy the asteroid's defenses. However, Wily wants the crystals himself so betrayal and a big battle on top the asteroid.

Part 2: Years later after the events of MM7, having been awakened due to the asteroid battle, a mysterious Alien Robot (Duo) awakens and travels to Earth to purge the world of evil (aka kill Wily). The Robot proceeds to destroy all of Wily's Robots (pretty much every boss in the series) bar Shadow Man who escapes with Wily after Shade Man and Quick Man sacrifice themselves. Wily, who has been severally wounded, is taken to Dr. Light's to heal. The Robot manages to hunt him down and thus Mega Man and friends proceed to fight it. They defeat it, and the robot explodes revealing the formerly imprisoned Stardroids, who proceed to defeat them.

Part 3: As the Stardroids proceed to destroy the Earth, they prepare their doomsday device: Dark Moon, which will destroy the world in 24 hours. In the meantime all the other characters either re-group or are destroyed.

Part 4: Basically more re-grouping, plot twists, and the final battle. Afterwards, Wily decides to try to conquer the world again, revealing the MM8 Robot Masters.

So, here's how I see it.

It sounds like a retelling of the Megaman stories with a few more elements thrown in. Though I will commend them for using the Gameboy Robot Masters (the Stardroids).

 

[DraginHikari]

Mega Man 5 for the Game boy doesn't get nearly enough recognition in the series in general. Always good to see it get acknowledged.

 

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So, here's how I see it.

[spoilers] So, for the most part.
It sounds like a retelling of the Megaman stories with a few more elements thrown in. Though I will commend them for using the Gameboy Robot Masters (the Stardroids).
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Ariga likes to try and throw extra elements to each story so that there's more going on. For example, here's his take on MM9:

 

[Substitution]

Ariga likes to try and throw extra elements to each story so that there's more going on. For example, here's his take on MM9:

Well, that's understandable.
It's not easy to transfer a video game to a media like movies or comics. Just look at Street Fighter (or, what we've done with it).

 

[8-peacock-8]

Ain't that the truth. The sad thing is to break the curse they'll probably have to end up having to do another company's franchise and get attention that way.

I'm expecting them to be handed keys to a Nintendo franchise at some point.

They already were. Wonderful 101 was suppose to be a Smash spin-off originally.

 

[Sehnsucht]

They already were. Wonderful 101 was suppose to be a Smash spin-off originally.

Really? Like a Smash RPG or something? I may have to look into this matter.

If Wonderful 101 does have conceptual Smash roots, then adding the Wonderful Ones to SSB4 would be rather fitting.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

They already were. Wonderful 101 was suppose to be a Smash spin-off originally.

Well....that's intriguing to know. Any other links or information about this?

I can still see them being given Metroid or Star Fox or even being put in charge of bringing back a classic franchise akin to the Kid Icarus reboot.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Really? Like a Smash RPG or something? I may have to look into this matter.

If Wonderful 101 does have conceptual Smash roots, then adding the Wonderful Ones to SSB4 would be rather fitting.

Think the same thing but with Nitnendo all-stars instead of heroes.

Wonder Red for Smash. I'm supporting him all day every day.

Well....that's intriguing to know. Any other links or information about this?

I can still see them being given Metroid or Star Fox or even being put in charge of bringing back a classic franchise akin to the Kid Icarus reboot.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/

 

[Sehnsucht]

Think the same thing but with Nitnendo all-stars instead of heroes.

Wonder Red for Smash. I'm supporting him all day every day.

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/

Very cool. I guess it would basically be like Subspace Emissary, except with gameplay closer to Pikmin than to Kirby.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Wonder Red for Smash. I'm supporting him all day every day.
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/

I'm glad they went the unique path in the end.

But yes Wonder Red would be EXCELLENT to be the first rep for Wonderful 101. Hopefully it gets a sequel we could get further reps like Wonder Blue, etc, etc.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I'm glad they went the unique path in the end.

But yes Wonder Red would be EXCELLENT to be the first rep for Wonderful 101. Hopefully it gets a sequel we could get further reps like Wonder Blue, etc, etc.

Kamiya wants to do a sequel staring Wonder Blue. It's basically him wanting to make Devil May Cry again. lol

Very cool. I guess it would basically be like Subspace Emissary, except with gameplay closer to Pikmin than to Kirby.

Also would have been an amazing character action game.

 

[Tree Gelbman]

Kamiya wants to do a sequel staring Wonder Blue. It's basically him wanting to make Devil May Cry again. lol

Haha. Maybe Capcom's recent actions against the DMC franchise brought that on. I mean it's what happen to Megaman's creator after all. He went off and he's making another game about a little robot boy. Haha.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Haha. Maybe Capcom's recent actions against the DMC franchise brought that on. I mean it's what happen to Megaman's creator after all. He went off and he's making another game about a little robot boy. Haha.

Probably.

 

[Zynux]

They already were. Wonderful 101 was suppose to be a Smash spin-off originally.

Not exactly a "Smash spinoff", but it was supposed to have Nintendo characters instead of original characters:
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/

EDIT: Ninja'd super hard.

 

[Spazzy_D]

Honestly, I like this one the most.
Not only is he the most iconic, but he's also the one who's closest to Nintendo's history.

Speaking of which.
Has anybody played the original 6? I'm currently beaten 2 and 6. And I'm currently on the first (currently trying to fight the Yellow Devil).



Fixed.

I beat all 6 as a child. I remember being like 8 and staying up all night beating 2. I also remember being SO excited when 3 came out. Good times.

 

[8-peacock-8]

Not exactly a "Smash spinoff", but it was supposed to have Nintendo characters instead of original characters:
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/08/24/the-wonderful-101-initially-starred-nintendo-characters/

EDIT: Ninja'd super hard.

Yeah. I just call it that since it's easier.

 

[κomıc]

I had a wicked dream.

The majority of the roster was revealed. Yoshi, Ness, Jigglypuff and Captain Falcon (of the original 12) remained, obviously.

Newcomers:
Dixie Kong
Morrigan
Strider (which people were going crazy over)
Palutena
Issac
Ridley
Shinobi
Hades

And in that dream, I questioned if this was a dream or if it was real. I broke the 7th wall lol
And this was in the morning, and I was about to wake up- it was so weird and really hard to describe since I was half awake... I think...



But srsly, this game NEEDS to come out soon. My sleep schedule is messed up because of work, school and this upcoming game x_x;


@the miiverse quote for Pic of Day

I'm curious to know why Sakurai keeps referring to scaling and character sizes. Is he addressing the people saying "Ridley's way too big! Stahp!" in the comments or is he hinting at something coming up? It's like the 5th time he's mentioned scaling of characters- one of which talked about Kirby and Olimar.

 

[Spazzy_D]

I had a wicked dream.

The majority of the roster was revealed. Yoshi, Ness, Jigglypuff and Captain Falcon (of the original 12) remained, obviously.

Newcomers:
Dixie Kong
Morrigan
Strider (which people were going crazy over)
Palutena
Issac
Ridley
Shinobi
Hades

And in that dream, I questioned if this was a dream or if it was real. I broke the 7th wall lol
And this was in the morning, and I was about to wake up- it was so weird and really hard to describe since I was half awake... I think...



But srsly, this game NEEDS to come out soon. My sleep schedule is messed up because of work, school and this upcoming game x_x;


@the miiverse quote for Pic of Day

I'm curious to know why Sakurai keeps referring to scaling and character sizes. Is he addressing the people saying "Ridley's way too big! Stahp!" in the comments or is he hinting at something coming up? It's like the 5th time he's mentioned scaling of characters- one of which talked about Kirby and Olimar.

How do you have 2 Ninjas but no Ryu Hyabusa? Dream harder.

 

[Metal Overlord]

I think he might be aware of the arguments about Ridley, honestly ik people will think I'm crazy for this lol but I seriously think Sakurai reads Smashboards at times

 

[Sehnsucht]

I think he might be aware of the arguments about Ridley, honestly ik people will think I'm crazy for this lol but I seriously think Sakurai reads Smashboards at times

[laughs]

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I don't really think it has to do with the "Ridley's too big" crowd on Miiverse and other places.

I'm not even sure if Sakurai knows too much (if any) English to begin with.

 

[Knight Dude]

I kind of really want a Nintendo vs Capcom game.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Square is apparently talking about FF 7 remake again...

I'm not sure what they said about it

But as far as I'm concerned, that ship has sailed.

Should have done it when FF 7 was more milkable

 

[PLATINUM7]

Square is apparently talking about FF 7 remake again...

I'm not sure what they said about it

But as far as I'm concerned, that ship has sailed.

Should have done it when FF 7 was more milkable

Director of Final Fantasy VII, Yoshinori Kitase, has talked with Eurogamer about his views on remaking the game, as many fans have wished for years would happen. He said he would love to do it, but that it would be such a huge undertaking he has doubts about the motivation it would require of him to make it. He also cited budget constraints and the availability of the game's original staff as barriers to such a project.
“I won't rule out the possibility, but it would take a lot to make it happen. "But should I ever take it on, it would have to be the biggest project I've done. My life work. So I would have to be as highly motivated as that to end up with something I'm very happy with. It's a huge thing for me.”
—Yoshinori Kitase to Eurogamer


From the Final Fantasy Wiki

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

They should make FF 7-2 where Cloud is dead, Tifa has lost her memory and Aerith has been resurrected but brought back Sephiroth as well who is now in the core of the planet in monster form slowly eating it.

 

[Knight Dude]

They should make FF 7-2 where Cloud is dead, Tifa has lost her memory and Aerith has been resurrected but brought back Sephiroth as well who is now in the core of the planet in monster form slowly eating it.

Would they really kill off Cloud though? I mean, he's pretty damn profitable as a character. Either with nostalgia or rabid fans and everything in between. Shoving him down the public's throat would be received more positively than Lightning. And when most people think of FF7, they think of him. Not to say your idea is inherently bad though.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Would they really kill off Cloud though? I mean, he's pretty damn profitable as a character. Either with nostalgia or rabid fans and everything in between. Shoving him down the public's throat would be received more positively than Lightning. And when most people think of FF7, they think of him. Not to say your idea is inherently bad though.

Tifa has to revive him in the story to kill sepiroth with the power of friendship or BS or whatever

And yes, you SHOULD be saying the idea is inherently bad. Before Square actually uses it

 

[Arcadenik]

Honestly, I don't think Square Enix should make a sequel to FF7.... the FF7 fanbase are insane... imagine how they would react if they didn't like how the storyline and character development went down in the sequel. The Internet would explode.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Honestly, I don't think Square Enix should make a sequel to FF7.... the FF7 fanbase are insane... imagine how they would react if they didn't like how the storyline and character development went down in the sequel. The Internet would explode.

Well, they like the story and character development in FF7, so...

There is hypocrisy and there is irony. I'm not sure which would apply more

 

[Arcadenik]

Well, they like the story and character development in FF7, so...

There is hypocrisy and there is irony. I'm not sure which would apply more

Yeah, but I am talking about the story and character development in the sequel of FF7... I mean, the fanbase loved them in the original... and it's been over 15 years... so their nostalgia goggles are 15 inches thick... and anything derivative in the sequel would only butthurt them. And then I have to scroll through hundreds of pages filled with nerdrage and how their childhoods were ruined when I am trying to read Smash-related posts.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

i want sequel to IX

 

[Raccoonman_900]

I shouldn't say it too soon, but I'm hoping for either tonight or next night for a Diddy reveal.