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[Deleted member]

In my perfect Smash game, I'd go that way. I'm about 50/50 on the Chrom to Robin ratio right now.

As long as Robin uses magic I'll be happy, I've been waiting for an elemental magic user for a long time now.

Certainly Zelda technically uses magic, but I still think the magic she uses is too generic, style wise, and that she has too many physical moves to be considered a "true" magic user.

Also, given how Robin can use both swords and magic, I think it'd be really cool if he/she could be given a Spellsword moveset, but of course there may be issues with this since canonically magic users in the FE franchise have held the tomes of the magic they're using.

 

[Kenith]

As long as Robin uses magic I'll be happy, I've been waiting for an elemental magic user for a long time now.

Certainly Zelda technically uses magic, but I still think the magic she uses is too generic, style wise, and that she has too many physical moves to be considered a "true" magic user.

Also, given how Robin can use both swords and magic, I think it'd be really cool if he/she could be given a Spellsword moveset, but of course there may be issues with this since canonically magic users in the FE franchise have held the tomes of the magic they're using.

My model for Robin has her carry a tome but have a sword in a scabbard attached at their hip. So that they can use both.

 

[mimgrim]

As long as Robin uses magic I'll be happy, I've been waiting for an elemental magic user for a long time now.

Certainly Zelda technically uses magic, but I still think the magic she uses is too generic, style wise, and that she has too many physical moves to be considered a "true" magic user.

Also, given how Robin can use both swords and magic, I think it'd be really cool if he/she could be given a Spellsword moveset, but of course there may be issues with this since canonically magic users in the FE franchise have held the tomes of the magic they're using.

Smash doesn't care about canon.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Full resolution Ike artwork is Full resolution.

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I'm still surprised at how many people don't know that there is official full resolution artwork.

 

[Deleted member]

My model for Robin has her carry a tome but have a sword in a scabbard attached at their hip. So that they can use both.

Hm, I never thought about it that way, that certainly opens up some possibilities then as it makes Robin more flexible overall, if her model were like this I imagine his/her swordplay would work with the concept of Robin sheathing the sword after he/she strikes (for example, her neutral A combo string could be 3 successive sword strikes, followed by a sheathing). I would also then imagine having a somewhat even split between sword and magic attacks (for specials, aerials, etc.) would become easier, although personally I would favor a moveset in which magic was the predominant form of combat in Robin's special moves. Hopefully though this style could be implemented in such a way that the magic didn't have to be restricted to special moves and the casting of spells wouldn't have so much starting/ending lag so as to not be viable as part of Robin's "normal" (A button) attack moveset.

I imagine then also her stance could be somewhat similar to Katarina's:

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(This could be a non-scabbard alternative perhaps)

 

[Pazzo.]

Hm, I never thought about it that way, that certainly opens up some possibilities then as it makes Robin more flexible overall, if her model were like this I imagine his/her swordplay would work with the concept of Robin sheathing the sword after he/she strikes (for example, her neutral A combo string could be 3 successive sword strikes, followed by a sheathing). I would also then imagine having a somewhat even split between sword and magic attacks (for specials, aerials, etc.) would become easier, although personally I would favor a moveset in which magic was the predominant form of combat in Robin's special moves. Hopefully though this style could be implemented in such a way that the magic didn't have to be restricted to special moves and the casting of spells wouldn't have so much starting/ending lag so as to not be viable as part of Robin's "normal" (A button) attack moveset.

I imagine then also her stance could be somewhat similar to Katarina's:

(This could be a non-scabbard alternative perhaps)

EDIT: Sorry for the large image, I don't know how to make spoiler tabs (how is this done?)

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Just remove the space in between the slash and the bracket.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

Ike confirmed? So can we finally kill this rule about "Marth + Current FE guy - Last FE guy"?

 

[Substitution]

Ike confirmed? So can we finally kill this rule about "Marth + Current FE guy - Last FE guy"?

Nonsense. We just go use the same broken logic with another franchise.
And by the looks of it, it might be Mother.

 

[Oniric Spriter]

I found this on tumblr, best visual explanation of Ike's return.

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

So glad Ike is back. I never really used him, but I liked him as a character.

Plus, we can kill the "pattern" that Roy left behind.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

So glad Ike is back. I never really used him, but I liked him as a character.

Plus, we can kill the "pattern" that Roy left behind.

He only got cut from brawl last minute cus he was a clone. He was one of the "Forbidden 7". At best, Roy will be an alt costume for Marth.

 

[PKNinja95]

If we do get another FE rep, it''ll probably be Chrom or Lucina

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

All you guys are arguing about Ike vs. Chrom vs. Lucina vs. whoever the hell this "Robin" dude is.

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here thinking that Tharja would probably be a good choice since she seems to be everywhere these days. Seriously, she's the one Awakening character I see absolutely everywhere I go even if Fire Emblem has nothing to do with the place or discussion. She seems to have left a big impression on lots of people and everyone really likes her.

Though I can take a guess and say that there's one big reason why that's the case. ¦D

 

[TheFirstPoppyBro]

I love how Youtube has a bunch of butthurt comments about Ike being overpowered and Chrom's chances.

Even though, you know, we don't know the full roster.

 

[8-peacock-8]

I honestly would prefer Robin.

Magic + other abilities really makes him/her a lot more interesting for a fighting game. To me at least.

 

[PKNinja95]

The most important part here guys is
I WANT MUH HD NESS

 

[Kenith]

All you guys are arguing about Ike vs. Chrom vs. Lucina vs. whoever the hell this "Robin" dude is.

Meanwhile, I'm just sitting here thinking that Tharja would probably be a good choice since she seems to be everywhere these days. Seriously, she's the one Awakening character I see absolutely everywhere I go even if Fire Emblem has nothing to do with the place or discussion. She seems to have left a big impression on lots of people and everyone really likes her.

Though I can take a guess and say that there's one big reason why that's the case. ¦D

Two big reasons, actually.

She's insignificant and sort of too...sexually provocative for Smash.

That's...that's what you meant, right?

 

[8-peacock-8]

 

[mimgrim]

All you guys are arguing about Ike vs. Chrom vs. Lucina vs. whoever the hell this "Robin" dude is.

Robin is the true MC of the game.

Really though, Robin is the default name for the avatar character. And is one of the main characters of the game.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Two big reasons, actually.

She's insignificant and sort of too...sexually provocative for Smash.

That's...that's what you meant, right?

...I said one big reason why people LIKE her so much and why she seems to be everywhere. You clearly read the post wrong. ¦D

And lol thinking significance matters for Smash. That's only the case for someone like Waluigi, as much as I hate to admit it.

Robin is the true MC of the game.

Really though, Robin is the default name for the avatar character. And is one of the main characters of the game.

Never heard of him.

There's an avatar character? You don't just play as Chrom? I figured he was the main character.

This is me asking as someone who doesn't play Fire Emblem. (And never will.)

 

[8-peacock-8]

...I said one big reason why people LIKE her so much and why she seems to be everywhere. You clearly read the post wrong. ¦D

And lol thinking significance matters for Smash. That's only the case for someone like Waluigi, as much as I hate to admit it.



Never heard of him.

There's an avatar character? You don't just play as Chrom? I figured he was the main character.

This is me asking as someone who doesn't play Fire Emblem. (And never will.)

Here's Robin.

 

[Ta1nted_4ngel29]

Never heard of him.

There's an avatar character? You don't just play as Chrom? I figured he was the main character.

This is me asking as someone who doesn't play Fire Emblem. (And never will.)

You are also in FE games as a "strategist' for your army, which includes Chrom, Marth, Ike, other FE characters. Robin was just the default name for these player characters.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Here's Robin.

Thanks Peacock. :3

Huh, avatar indeed since there's two genders, I see.

You are also in FE games as a "strategist' for your army, which includes Chrom, Marth, Ike, other FE characters. Robin was just the default name for these player characters.

I see...Huh. I had no idea. Thanks for the info.

Well if that's the case, I'd prefer Robin over Chrom, though I'd still prefer Lucina over Robin.

Though I'd prefer Tharja overall.

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But then out of nowhere, we're all surprised by Eliwood making a surprise appearance to be the new and improved replacement for Roy. ¦D

 

[mimgrim]

You are also in FE games as a "strategist' for your army, which includes Chrom, Marth, Ike, other FE characters. Robin was just the default name for these player characters.

Only FE7, 12, and 13 had the strategist thing, that I know of,

FE7 has Lyn refer to you a couple of times, from what I've been told as this is the only western released FE game I haven;t gotten to play yet.

FE12 did the whole avatar thing first, but the game is Japan only so I never got to play it.

And then Awakening expanded upon it.

And honestly. I would probably argue that Robin is the true main character of the game.

 

[praline]

The Avatar literally never shows up in cut scenes though.

 

[BBG|Scott-Spain]

Not sure if this is worth a thread, but I was wondering something. If we really have to accept wireless controllers, will the standard be 2-4 wiimotes per station for the players to connect and disconnect at their controllers?

 

[mimgrim]

The Avatar literally never shows up in cut scenes though.

That's actually not true.

 

[Nitric Acid]

The Avatar literally never shows up in cut scenes though.

Really? I've only played a couple of hours, but I remember thinking to myself, "Huh, for a custom protagonist, this guy really makes his presence known."

 

[Artorias]

...I said one big reason why people LIKE her so much and why she seems to be everywhere. You clearly read the post wrong. ¦D

And lol thinking significance matters for Smash. That's only the case for someone like Waluigi, as much as I hate to admit it.



Never heard of him.

There's an avatar character? You don't just play as Chrom? I figured he was the main character.

This is me asking as someone who doesn't play Fire Emblem. (And never will.)

in games like fire emblem you dont control one character, even though you are personified as Robin, wich you create and personalize its looks at the beggining, you actually control a really big number (up to 12-ish iirc) of units that you have to move across the map and attack the enemy units. Its more of an strategy game with RPG mechanics

 

[Deleted member]

Only FE7, 12, and 13 had the strategist thing, that I know of,

FE7 has Lyn refer to you a couple of times, from what I've been told as this is the only western released FE game I haven;t gotten to play yet.

FE12 did the whole avatar thing first, but the game is Japan only so I never got to play it.

And then Awakening expanded upon it.

And honestly. I would probably argue that Robin is the true main character of the game.

I can confirm all of this as true, in fact Lyn actually finds you unconscious in the middle of a field to open the game, and she does, as you said, refer to the Avatar/Strategist directly, even asking him for advice at some points.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

in games like fire emblem you dont control one character, even though you are personified as Robin, wich you create and personalize its looks at the beggining, you actually control a really big number (up to 12-ish iirc) of units that you have to move across the map and attack the enemy units. Its more of an strategy game with RPG mechanics

I know all of that already. I was asking more along the lines of story rather than gameplay.

 

[8-peacock-8]

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Still waiting for GamesRadar to post their next episode so i can laugh at their reaction to Ike returning

 

[Nitric Acid]

Still waiting for GamesRadar to post their next episode so i can laugh at their reaction to Ike returning

Those guys have lost all accountability in my eyes. So many wild guesses almost presented as facts.

 

[Aurane]

I thought we weren't going to see anymore Playable Character reveals until E3. That's cool. I feel that there's something significant about the reveal being Ike, but I can't think right now. Zzz...

 

[FalKoopa]

By the way, is there no one (besides me) who wanted Ike to keep his PoR look?

That is the only complaint I have about Smash 4 Ike. My brother loves his new buff look though.

 

[mimgrim]

I was actually hoping for the vanguard class from Radiant Dawn rather then Hero class, in all honesty.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Trying out my new tablet (that my dad gave me at no charge). Do you think we'll see anymore characters before E3 (like Mario Kart 8?)

 

[DraginHikari]

I don't know I think his new version look fits the type of playstyle Ike actually has.

 

[Shroob]

By the way, is there no one (besides me) who wanted Ike to keep his PoR look?

That is the only complaint I have about Smash 4 Ike. My brother loves his new buff look though.

I honestly didn't think Ike would have come back were it not for his RD design. I counted Ike out, but I did believe that he had a shot if Sakurai used his RD look.