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Muster

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I disagree with the Brawl count but i won't dwell into that topic as of today. Remember this, Mewtwo wasn't in Brawl if the likes of Mewtwo who is no longer popular can jump back into sm4sh so can Pichu.
Lol, are you serious?

Bro I have got something to tell you.

(also Mewtwo has been planned for every smash game to date)
 
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Seriously though, my personal problem with Zamus isn't the breasts or the tight clothes, it's that heels make no sense for a suit that is mean to be worn under a metal exosuit. At least they make slightly more sense as rocket boots.
 

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Seriously though, my personal problem with Zamus isn't the breasts or the tight clothes, it's that heels make no sense for a suit that is mean to be worn under a metal exosuit. At least they make slightly more sense as rocket boots.
Pretty much this (platform shoes would've worked better).
But other than that I don't mind her.
 

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My mental health is much improved for ignoring the leak/rumors thread today.
 

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Why is everyone picking on Zero Suit Samus?!?! I for one think that the improvements to Zero Suit Samus are awesome, so I'll be maining her AND sonic in smash 4 when I get it

EDIT: As pointed out by IsmaR, the stupid autocorrect on my iPad made it look like I said Maiming instead of MAINING. I did not foresee this misunderstanding when I was typing.
 
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the likes of Mewtwo who is no longer popular


Some friends and I watched the Super Mario Bros. movie and it's the most balls-to-the-wall ******** thing ever. It's a "so bad it's good" movie, and it's so, so good. It has literally everything: An orphan arc, bob(hoskins)sledding, parallel universes, dinosaurs, archeological protests, goombas dancing in an elevator, a club scene, car chases, a strong independent black woman... There's a pretty small list of what this movie doesn't have. I saw it when I was kid, but I didn't appreciate just how bad it was back then.
I have the movie on dvd. I still like to watch it. It's just so cheesy.

I'll be maiming her
Dare I ask?
 
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I will take you seriously when you become more mature.
Noted, haha.

On topic though: The sm4sh iteration of samus is complete fan service...

I can't really be too mad, cause I'm a guy... so that;
but it is a little bit sad that one of the few strong female leads of video gaming history has been perverted into such a sex symbol.

She's getting worse treatment than Lara Croft :(.

Samus used to stand for women as main roles in gaming and now.. well... google Zero Suit Samus with safe search off.
 

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That item Mac was using in the Direct; the Rocket pack thing from Pilot Wings... What if Samus had that Jet pack with her Jet boots? *visualizes*
Poor Samus does need to be treated better, though.
 
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Well, that's less Nintendo. And more perverted fans.
Fair enough, but on the other hand: check out Metriod: Other M.
or even the concept of ZSS altogether. She was a strong independent bounty hunter right until they made her essentially naked.

Zero suit samus gave fans a reason to pr0nz0rize her.

I totally agree that fans pulled the trigger, but Nintendo gave fans the gun.
 

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Nuzzle, Agility, Electro Ball. Really great tactial moves set right there.
2 Electric attacks on a moveset? And 3/4 all dedicated to 1 attack? An electric attack at that, which is completely shot down by just having the opponent use a ground pokemon

Not to mention NO ONE who learns nuzzle is going to survive long enough to pull off all 3
 

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There is nothing wrong with being a hopeful fan.

There IS something wrong with being a fan and being truly angry at the fact that your character didn't make it in.

It's normal to express disappointment when the character you wanted will not be in the game, but it's not a reason to lash out at everyone else and the creator of the game just because you can't play as that specific character. There are other characters that were worked really hard on and could be really enjoyable to play as if you don't look at the game as "The game that doesn't have my character."

However, it's also not a good thing to like the fact that characters didn't get in because other people wanted them in and vice versa. You shouldn't be wanting a character simply because it gives you the taste of others tears or not wanting a character simply because a big amount of people want him. You should respect the fact that those characters have fans and hope that they can get a character that they really want.

I'm not saying change your opinion on every character you don't want. It's not right to be forced to want a character that you really don't want, but don't try to step on everyone's hopes just because you don't want the character. You're completely free to express the fact that you don't want the character for your own reasons. It's up to the other people to try and convince you otherwise.

I say hold on to your hopes. There's nothing wrong with having a lot of it. I just say that if you can prepare to be hopeful, you can prepare tactics to cope with disappointment as well. You should also be happy when people get a character they want, and they should do the same for you if you get the character you want.

I would also suggest that you don't lash out at Nintendo for making some changes either. You should be going into this game with a curious nature, ready to take in all of the new features. Why ruin it by saying everything they change is bad? Play around with it when it comes. You may grow to like it much more than you think.

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Fair enough, but on the other hand: check out Metriod: Other M.
To be fair, that game was also made by Team Ninja.
They're known for fanservice.

or even the concept of ZSS altogether. She was a strong independent bounty hunter right until they made her essentially naked.
No, she's still clothed.
It's not like they give her some barely-holding on top like other characters. She at least keeps some modesty.

Zero suit samus gave fans a reason to pr0nz0rize her.
I don't get this statement.
Are you implying it's okay because they started it? That it's justified?
I don't think that's how it works.

I totally agree that fans pulled the trigger, but Nintendo gave fans the gun.
Look, you could give them the most modest character and they'll still find a way. Look at Peach.
There's no other way to say it other than it's inevitable. Sad as that sounds.
 

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People really are complaining about Samus?

Shut up, you're stupid
 

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People say ZSS is sexualized. Guess they didn't play the earlier Metroid games where Samus wears a bikini if you complete the game fast enough.

Also, if there's no Rule 34 of something, it will eventually be made.
 

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People say ZSS is sexualized. Guess they didn't play the earlier Metroid games where Samus wears a bikini if you complete the game fast enough.

Also, if there's no Rule 34 of something, it will eventually be made.
Not fast enough sometimes, and not in good enough quality
 

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Didyy won't be in Mario Kart 8? Then that gives room for a Wario character other than the Bros. this time around. :troll:
 

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Fair enough, but on the other hand: check out Metriod: Other M.
or even the concept of ZSS altogether. She was a strong independent bounty hunter right until they made her essentially naked.

Zero suit samus gave fans a reason to pr0nz0rize her.

I totally agree that fans pulled the trigger, but Nintendo gave fans the gun.
No, a woman being hot does not GIVE fans a reason to make porn of her
 

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Noted, haha.

On topic though: The sm4sh iteration of samus is complete fan service...

I can't really be too mad, cause I'm a guy... so that;
but it is a little bit sad that one of the few strong female leads of video gaming history has been perverted into such a sex symbol.

She's getting worse treatment than Lara Croft :(.

Samus used to stand for women as main roles in gaming and now.. well... google Zero Suit Samus with safe search off.
Samus has been 'sexualized' since the very beggining so I don't see your point. Heck, I'd even say she's better now than before.

Also, what tells people a woman can't be sexy and badass at the same time? Is there some sort of rule am I missing?
 
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Samus has been 'sexualized' since the very beggining so I don't see your point. Heck, I'd even say she's better now than before.

Also, what tells people a woman can't be sexy and badass at the same time? Is there some sort of rule am I missing?
Same thing can said for the females of Mario.



Just tell me that isn't both sexy and badass for Mario standards.
 

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Same thing can said for the females of Mario.



Just tell me that isn't both sexy and badass for Mario standards.
And if some people at Nintendo had their way, there would be even more sex associated with peach

Like when they wanted to put her in a thong in melee (or was it brawl...)

In fact, didn't they actually DO that in the Japanese version of some game? It was one of the sports games

Edit: Also GG has a point, those heels aren't really sexy heels. They are kind of really clunky
 
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In back to the Future you can see some kid hopping around in the 50's with some kind of spring shoes that are basically the same thing so it's a pretty old concept
 
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