Social Smash 4 Social Topic 2.0

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Do we even have a Yu-Gi-Oh thread?

I dunno?

It's mostly because it's not about SSB in any form. I'm not sure how relaxed the social part is anymore. I know in the past you couldn't be heavily off-topic like we're doing but I think that changed. I don't want to rules lawyer or anything like that either. I just want to follow the rules properly.

 

[mimgrim]

The funny thing is, I did want Rabbit limited currently at one time, despite finding him very balanced. You gotta admit, he does speed up the game. That said, yeah, a ban on Leviair would do wonders for the game. He does too much for a crappy cost. I'd limit Laggie and Dolkka as well. Neither are banworthy, imo. But a limit severely hurts, and actually hurts Evolz too. I question why Konami made them regular Dinosaur only...

I would prefer him semi-limited myself. Dolkka I'm eh about. He just stops monster effects so he isn't a huge problem. Laggia is just a walking Solemn Judgment though with an easy cost.

Yeah. Synchro-wise, only Goyo and Trishula can come back. Trishula is strong, but with Diva limited and Birdman might even see a ban(Machines are often banworthy, no?) she would do little. Goyo, on the other hand? He's the crappy version of Big Eye. He's actually how you should earn the permanent control of a monster, through proper battle. Speaking of, Big Eye is the only other banworthy Xyz besides Leviair, imo. Exciton Knight is trash design, but I'd rather just unban Heavy or make a good replacement. Must be a Spell.

Trishula would be a dream come true to me. I miss that card.

Goyo or Brio should come back as we really lack a good splashable level 6 synchro now. Goyo would be the less broken one but Brio would be more useful. xD

Ironically, I completely will take Inzektors and Hornet's pops over Bear any day. Mostly because they can't gain extra advantage over it, just deal eh damage at best. Dragonfly, as noted, is the problem anyway.

Inzektors can stay away thank you very much. I find Fists to be more manageable to deal with then I did Zekts, for some reason.

As long as Glow-Up Bulb doesn't come back, sure. That's the only problem with it. Arguably, so is Pot of Avarice.

Oh yea, Avarice to. But I also play T.G. Stun and Tengu was a really good part of that deck. But with him being Semi'd he became rather useless.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Try being me.
Mr. G&W was 6th at one point. Then he came around.


Well, if you ever are interested. There is a 3DS social group run by Capps.
I used to be there myself. Though I decided to leave (did all I could do to help, felt there wasn't much left for me).
It's a good place. Especially if you to talk about the 3DS without being hounded.


Honestly, then it's just a waste.
I'll agree with Smooth Criminal on this one.
I understand you're mad. But from what I've gotten, you've never pulled up the positive side.
It's only the haters. And I'm beginning to think they got to you.
Sure, it's stupid that they blasted you.
But I think you're ignoring the others. The one's who actually main Pit.
Heck, look at the others. No matter what they do, they still focus on bringing info for their characters.
Heck, I remember Capps saying something about helping the Pichu and Mr. G&W social forums (Melee mind you). And they're considered to bottom of the barrel.

I feel like I'm not getting both sides. I'm only getting the one. Your frustration.


Wait? It's down again?
Just hasn't been a good time for them isn't it?

Cheap MK *cough* Cheapity cheap cheap cheap. I had to say it; I hate him that much.

I'm picky, and would most likely hang around the Pit/Bowser areas, and wherever there's useful info.

It's been a waste the moment I realized that I was doing all of the work to acquire the data, but I still went on anyways.
The people haven't given me a reason to be positive. And it's more than just the haters, but again, many elitists.

Here's the thing. There are some who main Pit and have high/top tier secondaries (some of them who bash me too.), and then there's those who eventually quit Pit and go to the higher ups if not quit the game altogether. It's some of those Pit players themselves that have been jerks to me, which made me think I did all that data-gathering for nothing, and like I said, I've been at it for 1-2 years. Once AIB's up, I'll gladly show you my old group that's now a wasteland of forgotten data and information.
It actually reminds me of the time when some people asked me to tutor their Pit, and what was most of the stuff I see? Them asking me to teach em how to loop arrows instead of the fundamentals, and some of the others, I felt that they weren't improving, even after practice matches in and out. To get rid of that part of frustration, I stopped tutoring.

Capps seems like he has a lot of patience if he's doing what he can to help out such weak and uncommon characters.

While it is true my personality isn't the best, more-so my temper, the fact that I tried for a while, even while I had school wrapped around me (2009 mind you) just shows I was determined. But really, I think it's how I've been treated for most of my life. From school bullies to trolls to former friends backstabbing you (and yes, even some of em were Pit players) to people who try to cover up their mean intentions by trying to say something like "it's just a joke" (including those that like to spread fake lies about me via fake pics and such), I experienced all of that. At this point, I'm generally just fed up with the BS I deal with and became meaner as time went by, and I'm gonna miss my happier times, but I don't think I'll ever see that for a while... til Palutena is confirmed playable, or if things turn out better. I can't say this year so far has been good to me either though.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I would prefer him semi-limited myself. Dolkka I'm eh about. He just stops monster effects so he isn't a huge problem. Laggia is just a walking Solemn Judgment though with an easy cost.

Monster effects ARE the game, though, so... I'd say just do it. Evolz can now depend on other stuff. They got a good toolbox power anyway.

Trishula would be a dream come true to me. I miss that card.

I survived a Trishula and Mist Wurm double whammy, because I was able to trick my opponent into banishing my monster. He attacked. -_- And got Mirror Force'd. I proceeded to win. Fairly bad Traditional Infernities deck too.

Goyo or Brio should come back as we really lack a good splashable level 6 synchro now. Goyo would be the less broken one but Brio would be more useful.[ xD

Brionac allows you to easily win the game, since bouncing is the most superior form or removal bar none. He can stay dead for eternity.(Pleiades should be limited too) Goyo is fine and kind of mediocre(should be no more than 1, though). Also, Brionac sets off Merlanteans and Fabled. So it just gains advantage in the end, endlessly at times. I don't mind that crap.

Inzektors can stay away thank you very much. I find Fists to be more manageable to deal with then I did Zekts, for some reason.

It's probably because Inzektors are terrible due to how easy they're able to be sided against. Then again, E-Dragons are so easy to fight now it's laughable. Crimson Blader shuts them down if you can properly defend it(I couldn't at one time. I probably will rectify this with a Field Spell).

Oh yea, Avarice to. But I also play T.G. Stun and Tengu was a really good part of that deck. But with him being Semi'd he became rather useless.

I remember that deck. Never faced it, but Tengu is the type of passive floater I like. I just keep slaughtering the card. Yeah, I think I lost that duel, but barely. He sacrificed it for Jinzo, so...

Also, I did a holler to ask a Mod to tell us if this is okay or not. Not to punish or anything, but it was the fastest way to grab attention.

 

[mimgrim]

Monster effects ARE the game, though, so... I'd say just do it. Evolz can now depend on other stuff. They got a good toolbox power anyway.

That's why I think Dolkka is fine. Monster effects should get punished at times because you might have been to liberal with them. Being able to negate a summon, spell, or trap for only 2 detachments though? No.

I survived a Trishula and Mist Wurm double whammy, because I was able to trick my opponent into banishing my monster. He attacked. -_- And got Mirror Force'd. I proceeded to win. Fairly bad Traditional Infernities deck too.

Mind games.

This is also why I prefer IRL play as expressions become a thing to read.

Brionac allows you to easily win the game, since bouncing is the most superior form or removal bar none. He can stay dead for eternity.(Pleiades should be limited too) Goyo is fine and kind of mediocre(should be no more than 1, though). Also, Brionac sets off Merlanteans and Fabled. So it just gains advantage in the end, endlessly at times. I don't mind that crap.

Oh most definitely Goyo should come back instead. But either way, a splashable level 6 synchro should come back. I kinda want Formula Semi'd too.

It's probably because Inzektors are terrible due to how easy they're able to be sided against. Then again, E-Dragons are so easy to fight now it's laughable. Crimson Blader shuts them down if you can properly defend it(I couldn't at one time. I probably will rectify this with a Field Spell).

E-drags are still around? o.o

I remember that deck. Never faced it, but Tengu is the type of passive floater I like. I just keep slaughtering the card. Yeah, I think I lost that duel, but barely. He sacrificed it for Jinzo, so...

Deck is awesome. I'm try to contemplate if I can figure out a way to side my T.G. stun deck into a Fire Fist deck. You sided specificaly for that deck? Well guess what, now you have to deal with a new deck.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

That's why I think Dolkka is fine. Monster effects should get punished at times because you might have been to liberal with them. Being able to negate a summon, spell, or trap for only 2 detachments though? No.

Actually, I think that's more of a problem. He gets two chances to screw you over. I'd say Dolkka > Laggia. Also, Divine Wrath and Fiendish Chain exist too.

Mind games.

This is also why I prefer IRL play as expressions become a thing to read.

Indeed. Quite useful.

Oh most definitely Goyo should come back instead. But either way, a splashable level 6 synchro should come back. I kinda want Formula Semi'd too.

I feel Formula Synchron can't move up till Dandylion and Librarian are gone. Not before. We have two Level 2 Synchro Tuners now, so it can stay where it is, imo.

E-drags are still around? o.o

Of course. They still exist, and are good cards. I play the Earth one in my Gaia Knights.

Deck is awesome. I'm try to contemplate if I can figure out a way to side my T.G. stun deck into a Fire Fist deck. You sided specificaly for that deck? Well guess what, now you have to deal with a new deck.

I hope to face it sometime myself. I think I played possibly something similar? I dunno if it was really it. I played against Agents after the Trishula ban, though.

 

[IsmaR]

For me, it was.
If you love beat-em-ups, go for it.

I think I will end up getting it, as I found out my budget can get me 2 $5 games (Shantae for GBC and River City Ransom) and 1 $4 game (Metroid II). Not like I can't just buy more point cards down the line, anyhow.

 

[Fatmanonice]

*A Wild Mod appears*

As far as I'm concerned, the current conversation is fine since it still relates to fighting games and it simply outbranched from discussing Melee/Brawl's match ups.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Yea, I was worried bout it.
Still, that Raven avy... did I mention I like her?

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

*A Wild Mod appears*

As far as I'm concerned, the current conversation is fine since it still relates to fighting games and it simply outbranched from discussing Melee/Brawl's match ups.

I'm talking about the Yu-Gi-Oh discussion. XD Which didn't branch from SSB stuff. Apologies for not clarifying. I did say one thing beforehand, with my whole Red-Eyes B. Dragon moveset, but that doesn't much count.

 

[mimgrim]

Actually, I think that's more of a problem. He gets two chances to screw you over. I'd say Dolkka > Laggia. Also, Divine Wrath and Fiendish Chain exist too.

True. I just find Laggia to be worse.

I feel Formula Synchron can't move up till Dandylion and Librarian are gone. Not before. We have two Level 2 Synchro Tuners now, so it can stay where it is, imo.

Man I really am behind. I didn't relize there was a new level 2 Synchro tuner. xD

Of course. They still exist, and are good cards. I play the Earth one in my Gaia Knights.

I figured they were dead now that they were all limited. Maybe I should see about Earth one in Madolche.

I hope to face it sometime myself. I think I played possibly something similar? I dunno if it was really it. I played against Agents after the Trishula ban, though.

I only get on DN at midnight from now on since it eats up quite a few gigs of satellite internet. If your ever on at that time look me up, I have the same user name as here.

 

[IsmaR]

Still, that Raven avy... did I mention I like her?

Enough to forgive me?

Expression change relevant.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

True. I just find Laggia to be worse.

It's easy to bait out, imo. Both are bad designs, though.

Man I really am behind. I didn't relize there was a new level 2 Synchro tuner. xD

2 of them. Yeah. XD

I figured they were dead now that they were all limited. Maybe I should see about Earth one in Madolche.

Variants exist, and they're splashable depending the deck. Mermails dropped Tidal ages ago, thankfully. It's perfect in a Water.dek like with A Legendary Ocean, Terrorking Salmon, etc.

I only get on DN at midnight from now on since it eats up quite a few gigs of satellite internet. If your ever on at that time look me up, I have the same user name as here.

Alright. I need to further test my OCG Cyber Deck.(cards with Cyber in its name, does mostly work around Cyber Dragon, though.)[/quote]

 

[mimgrim]

It's easy to bait out, imo. Both are bad designs, though.

True.

Variants exist, and they're splashable depending the deck. Mermails dropped Tidal ages ago, thankfully. It's perfect in a Water.dek like with A Legendary Ocean, Terrorking Salmon, etc.

Hrmmm, I'll have to test out some stuff then.

Alright. I need to further test my OCG Cyber Deck.(cards with Cyber in its name, does mostly work around Cyber Dragon, though.)

Just note that I am extremely rusty, pun not intended.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

True.

Hrmmm, I'll have to test out some stuff then.

Good luck. And may the Power Tool Dragon protect you. /Pun

Just note that I am extremely rusty, pun not intended.

Hah!

Jinzo's immune to rust, I hear. >_>

 

[Big-Cat]

Pojo jerks, that is all. .

And to think I was a member of that forum until eight to ten years ago.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

And to think I was a member of that forum until eight to ten years ago.

I still am. I'm just good with reporting the crap they pull. The Administration does not tolerate jerk behavior. They don't really care if people have... odd views of how cards work. Whatever. As long as they aren't trolling or attacking others, it shouldn't matter. It's their opinion, after all.

 

[MSmariosonic]

I want a girlfriend.

 

[mimgrim]

I want a girlfriend.

Make one.

2 nerds did one time, from a barbie doll no less.

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

There appears to be some level of concern within this thread that the discussion isn't "SMASHING" enough. It doesn't get any more "SMASHING" than a Falcon Punch.

Lemme Falcon Punch this thing back into Super Smash Bros Land:

.

 

[Admiral Pit]

Enough to forgive me?

Expression change relevant.

I guess I can let it go. I just hope I won't be made fun of so much. Sometimes it hurts. But will my words mean anything is the question? (Skype for wordings)

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

Admiral Pit, while I do not agree with their treatment of you, you yourself said your experience if from online, right?

It's because of that that your match-up data is faulty. Online gives automatic items(that's near impossible to remove, but I'll presume you tested it without them eventually), makes it harder to choose every course, has lag(this is the main problem), and doesn't do it under the highest tournament settings(that 10 minutes, 3 stock). It's not that yours is horrible or anything, it's just that it has underlying factors that makes it unreliable.

I hope somebody actually explained that's why your data wasn't very usable instead of just attacking you.

I've played online and offline, and they are vastly different. Now, from what I remember, our match-up data is supposed to be from high tournament play, with specific settings. Those settings are not possible with online. It's more or less you just weren't able to contribute to what we want, that's all. It does suck they treated you that way, no doubts about it.

 

[Substitution]

I think I will end up getting it, as I found out my budget can get me 2 $5 games (Shantae for GBC and River City Ransom) and 1 $4 game (Metroid II). Not like I can't just buy more point cards down the line, anyhow.

Speaking of which.
If possible. Tell me how Shantae is. I've been considering it. But haven't gotten around to it.

Cheap MK *cough* Cheapity cheap cheap cheap. I had to say it; I hate him that much.

I'll give you that.

I'm picky, and would most likely hang around the Pit/Bowser areas, and wherever there's useful info.

That's the thing. A good idea is to branch out.
Mains change all the time. And it's best to at least keep up with a few you're considering.

It's been a waste the moment I realized that I was doing all of the work to acquire the data, but I still went on anyways.
The people haven't given me a reason to be positive. And it's more than just the haters, but again, many elitists...

...Here's the thing. There are some who main Pit and have high/top tier secondaries (some of them who bash me too.), and then there's those who eventually quit Pit and go to the higher ups if not quit the game altogether. It's some of those Pit players themselves that have been jerks to me, which made me think I did all that data-gathering for nothing, and like I said, I've been at it for 1-2 years. Once AIB's up, I'll gladly show you my old group that's now a wasteland of forgotten data and information.

Might as well bunch these two together.
Look, bud. I'm gonna be blunt with you. No beating around the bush. Just the truth.
...Calm down.

From this, I don't see a legit reason to hate. All I see is emotion.
All I see is "I quit". I can't do this anymore. That's the attitude of a defeatist.
It's like if the Backroomers just packed their bags and gave up matchups cause "People hate them."
You'll find people across the spectrum. Heck, I've had my share of arguments of elitists all across the board.

It actually reminds me of the time when some people asked me to tutor their Pit, and what was most of the stuff I see? Them asking me to teach em how to loop arrows instead of the fundamentals, and some of the others, I felt that they weren't improving, even after practice matches in and out. To get rid of that part of frustration, I stopped tutoring...

Then maybe tutoring isn't the best.
But all I can say is it requires patience. People have different needs.
You can't just give up on them, what you need is to work.
Be serious, give criticism. Help them get better instead of getting frustrated.

Capps seems like he has a lot of patience if he's doing what he can to help out such weak and uncommon characters.

And isn't that that best attitude? Come in positive, instead of expecting the worst.
People don't put effort into data to impress. They do it cause they love Smash. And will do anything to make it better.

While it is true my personality isn't the best, more-so my temper, the fact that I tried for a while, even while I had school wrapped around me (2009 mind you) just shows I was determined. But really, I think it's how I've been treated for most of my life. From school bullies to trolls to former friends backstabbing you (and yes, even some of em were Pit players) to people who try to cover up their mean intentions by trying to say something like "it's just a joke" (including those that like to spread fake lies about me via fake pics and such), I experienced all of that. At this point, I'm generally just fed up with the BS I deal with and became meaner as time went by, and I'm gonna miss my happier times, but I don't think I'll ever see that for a while... til Palutena is confirmed playable, or if things turn out better. I can't say this year so far has been good to me either though.

...And this is where my point stands.

Look, I'll be honest here.
Admittedly, if anything, this "personality" of mine is a facade.

In reality, I'm a pessimist. I look at the world with a half-glass empty. I'm emotional, I let things get to me personally.
When I'm stressed, I shut myself off. I act like I'm undeserving. Heck, it's the reason I quit 3DSA.
And trust me, I've blown up on this site as well. Don't believe me? Xiroey could tell you...
I get where you're coming from. While I may have never been betrayed. Trust me when I say "I'm used to it".

But one thing I've learned is not to let emotions get the best of you.
All it ends up doing is hurting you, and everyone around you.
You won't "get the last laugh". Or whatever you're saying.

Now, while I've never had betrayals. As most of mine are medical.
But I've had my fair share of moments (try having an Asthma scare).
And I've learned is to not let them define you.
Move on, don't dwell in the past. And don't end up like me.
I haven't learned that yet, but you still can.

 

[TheLastJinjo]

But the music. Its just so nostalgic!

How? It's like ear ****. How can you even compare it to the original. And that's the biggest issue with Nintendo. All they ever try to do now is be nostalgic.

 

[Substitution]

How? It's like ear ****. How can you even compare it to the original. And that's the biggest issue with Nintendo. All they ever try to do now is be nostalgic.

I've heard worse...

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

How? It's like ear ****. How can you even compare it to the original. And that's the biggest issue with Nintendo. All they ever try to do now is be nostalgic.

...Skyward Sword is nostalgic?

I know they have a lot of nostalgia-based things these days, but...

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Yea, I was worried bout it.
Still, that Raven avy... did I mention I like her?

So do i

 

[MSmariosonic]

Anyone gonna buy Yoshi's New Island?

I know I am.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Anyone gonna buy Yoshi's New Island?

I know I am.

when its 10$ yes

 

[Kenith]

Anyone gonna buy Yoshi's New Island?

I know I am.

Ha ha, more like, "Yoshi's Newb Island". Ha, ha. Ha. Ha.

Ha. That was hysterical. I need to catch my breath.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Ha ha, more like, "Yoshi's Newb Island". Ha, ha. Ha. Ha.

Ha. That was hysterical. I need to catch my breath.

Here

 

[Kenith]

Here

I don't think I can fit that on my mouth.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

I don't think I can fit that on my mouth.

Sorry forgot to put the "Note not actual size" tag beside it

 

[Fatmanonice]

Anyone gonna buy Yoshi's New Island?

I know I am.

When I catch up on my back catalog, yes. I hope this game has decent balance to it because that was definitely the worst thing about Yoshi's Island DS. It went from insultingly easy in some levels (the bosses were stupidly easy too) to DS throwing hard in others. This game shows a lot more promise despite the fact just about everyone is taking a crap on it right now for being so similar to the first game.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I don't think I can fit that on my mouth.

Would a muzzle work better?

Ha ha, more like, "Yoshi's Newb Island". Ha, ha. Ha. Ha.

Ha. That was hysterical. I need to catch my breath.

Seto Kaiba's funnier.

 

[The Original Robot boy]

Would a muzzle work better?


Seto Kaiba's funnier.

 

[Wario Bros.]

Anyone gonna buy Yoshi's New Island?

I know I am.

I'm checking reviews first before I consider buying it. I still need to beat the original (I'm playing the GBA version on my 3DS) and actually start on the DS game.

 

[Verde Coeden Scalesworth]

I was actually referring to an episode where Kaiba actually says something very similar. He makes a joke, and goes "Ha ha ha. Funny."

 

[MSmariosonic]

Good to hear that guys. Good to hear that.

Anyway...
I've got some **** to do...

 

[Pazzo.]

I'm checking reviews first before I consider buying it. I still need to beat the original (I'm playing the GBA version on my 3DS) and actually start on the DS game.

Those are great games. I don't care what anyone says, I love both of those games.

Anyway, What Mario platformer spin-off would you like to see next?

For me, It would have to have Co-op... classic exploring, treasure, and inventive bosses...

Yes my friends, I speak of...

SUPER WARIO BROS. LAND!!!!