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[Cap'nChreest]

Lasers aren't that effective against MK. He's small and fast with multiples jumps which allows him to weave through him. Jabs are the most important part of the MU.

Falco is one of the few characters that go almost even with MK actually. It is far from his worse MU. Does better then Diddy anyway. Falco's worse MU are the ICs, he gets murdered by them so bad.

I meant that Diddy Metaknight is Metaknights worst match up imo. I'm a little inexperienced playing against metaknights though. I think I've only played one MK main on Smashboards... well because there was only ever one in the arena lol. He always wanted me to go Diddy since I was the only Diddy main as well haha.

I didn't say remove his Melee shine, I said still have a way to kick out the shine. Falco works best when he's denying. I prefer the Forward Smash in Brawl because of its breadth even if the hitbox doesn't come out with Falco's hip kick. The Melee Smash can put them in laser height but I like the lower angle that Brawl had (if I recall correctly). You may be correct about the up tilt SDI since you'd want to do a few of them at lower percents and they'll be expecting it after the first one.

I don't have P:M online working. I've been using full set and I don't have a computer that can run it on Dolphin

Yea the hit box is a bit bigger isn't it?

The lasers can go pretty low if you get a silent laser. Those are pretty cool. I think the biggest factor in the laser height is fast falling it. You probably already know that. I'm kinda having a hard time understanding what you mean by height of the laser or the angle.

Heres a zip with P:M working online for the console if you wanted. It replaces the files. I think there are a couple of double files in there that need to be deleted in order for it to work
https://www.dropbox.com/s/k7glrd7kl3wl4ax/Project M Hackless Wifi.zip

This is the one I use.

 

[praline]

I bet the special smash news at Comicon is the release date for Smash Wii U

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

I don't get why PM didn't pull a Ganondorf with Falco, and make his moves hit like they did in Melee, but animate similarly to how they did in Brawl. Is it because he was top tier? I believe there's a word for this that starts with an "L" and ends with an "AZY." What was it again?

Probably because Falco had some cool Brawl animations while the majority of Ganon's sucked.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

I bet the special smash news at Comicon is the release date for Smash Wii U

Why would they do that if they are playing the 3ds version of the game?

 

[praline]

Why would they do that if they are playing the 3ds version of the game?

The Wii U version won't be there?

 

[mimgrim]

I meant that Diddy Metaknight is Metaknights worst match up imo. I'm a little inexperienced playing against metaknights though. I think I've only played one MK main on Smashboards... well because there was only ever one in the arena lol. He always wanted me to go Diddy since I was the only Diddy main as well haha.

Nah. Diddy has a harder time against MK then Falco does, or even Olimar. Diddy is kinda like the inverse of them actually. Falco and Olimar do good against MK but get bopped by ICs whereas Diddy does good against ICs but does worse against MK (though not as bad as Falco and Olimar get bopped against ICs).

Brawl WiFi isn't the best thing to use either... to laggy, in which Banana's become substantially harder to deal with as a result.

 

[Cap'nChreest]

Nah. Diddy has a harder time against MK then Falco does, or even Olimar. Diddy is kinda like the inverse of them actually. Falco and Olimar do good against MK but get bopped by ICs whereas Diddy does good against ICs but does worse against MK (though not as bad as Falco and Olimar get bopped against ICs).

Brawl WiFi isn't the best thing to use either... to laggy, in which Banana's become substantially harder to deal with as a result.

Yea WiFi is laggy as crap. Zelda is top tier in wifi because of that up smash

It kills people that roll and once it hits them its too late to sdi.

 

[Kenith]

You guys are talking about competitive Smash. I lack the mental capacity to understand competitive play.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

The Wii U version won't be there?

It's there, here's the list of what Nintendo's brining to Comic-Con

The tournament at Comic Con is what's only for 3DS.

 

[Substitution]

You guys are talking about competitive Smash. I lack the mental capacity to understand competitive play.

I just nod my head all the while hoping and praying no one says anything to me.

 

[mimgrim]

You guys are talking about competitive Smash. I lack the mental capacity to understand competitive play.

 

[Kenith]

I'm not casul, I'm just....casul...

I don't know. Casual gives a negative connotation.

I'm not a causal player, just not a competitive player.

 

[mimgrim]

I'm not casul, I'm just....casul...

I don't know. Casual gives a negative connotation.

I'm not a causal player, just not a competitive player.

Just accept the joke and move on. e_e

You should know my stance on casual/gamers/hardcore gamer/competitive gamers by now.

 

[Pyra]

Lol. I've never played in a competitive setting myself.
In fact, I don't find myself offended by things in the game that aren't no-items-fox-only-final-destination

Guess I'm a casual too

 

[Kenith]

Just accept the joke and move on. e_e

You should know my stance on casual/gamers/hardcore gamer/competitive gamers by now.

I wasn't offended. And no, I don't know your stance on gamers.

 

[mimgrim]

Gah. I've posted this several times by now on this thread and the thread before it. Bleh.

Casual = people who don't keep up with games in any way and only have a few games here and there and there.

Gamer = someone who actively looks for games in store but doesn't really keep up with them and generally aren't as knowing of the more niche games.

Hardcore gamer = some who has a lot of games keeps up with them a lot and knows about many more niche games.

Competitive gamer = a gamer that attends tournaments for multiplayer games and does their absolute best to win and plays for money.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

Finally got Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker anyone care to race?

 

[UltimateCyborgOverlord]

Finally got Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker anyone care to race?

I didn't know you could race in Wind Waker

 

[Pyra]

Gah. I've posted this several times by now on this thread and the thread before it. Bleh.

Casual = people who don't keep up with games in any way and only have a few games here and there and there.

Gamer = someone who actively looks for games in store but doesn't really keep up with them and generally aren't as knowing of the more niche games.

Hardcore gamer = some who has a lot of games keeps up with them a lot and knows about many more niche games.

Competitive gamer = a gamer that attends tournaments for multiplayer games and does their absolute best to win and plays for money.

I guess I'm a somewhat of a hardcore-looking-to-eventually-be-competitive gamer then.

 

[Substitution]

I didn't know you could race in Wind Waker

You sail on boats.
You can have a boat race.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

I didn't know you could race in Wind Waker

It's called Versus. They haven't done a Versus of Wind Waker yet, but you should definitely check out their runs through Sonic Adventure 2, Ocarina of Time, and Super Mario Sunshine.

 

[praline]

It's there, here's the list of what Nintendo's brining to Comic-Con
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The tournament at Comic Con is what's only for 3DS.

Wait so the special news was about a 3ds tournament? Well that's a bummer, I thought it'd be something cool.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Wait so the special news was about a 3ds tournament? Well that's a bummer, I thought it'd be something cool.

So far... I mean, we could see a reveal, but it's not guaranteed.

 

[praline]

So far... I mean, we could see a reveal, but it's not guaranteed.

It'd be cool to get another reveal.

 

[WolfieXVII ❂]

I didn't know you could race in Wind Waker

Touché

 

[Pazzo.]

Finally got Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker anyone care to race?

Just sent my copy to Nintendo for repairs. :/

 

[Pyra]

Wait so the special news was about a 3ds tournament? Well that's a bummer, I thought it'd be something cool.

Are you talking about the special surprises? The 3DS tourney was announced separate from that, I thought.

Finally got Mario Kart 8 and Wind Waker anyone care to race?

Buh. I'd go out and get a copy right now but I just packed my Wii U up.

 

[praline]

Are you talking about the special surprises? The 3DS tourney was announced separate from that, I thought.


Buh. I'd go out and get a copy right now but I just packed my Wii U up.

Well that's a relief!

 

[Pyra]

Plot twist: The special surprise is Reggie, after the tournament, showing up and introducing himself as none other than Sal Romano.

 

[TitanTeaTime]

Plot twist: The special surprise is Reggie, after the tournament, showing up and introducing himself as none other than Sal Romano's source.

Fixed.
Sal is an actual guy who exists, his source for the "leak" is someone else.

 

[Deleted member]

Probably because Falco had some cool Brawl animations while the majority of Ganon's sucked.

That makes no sense. Falco had some cool Brawl animations so why didn't they retool them to hit similar to his Melee attacks? Ganondorf's down tilt and forward tilt hit like they do in Melee, but animate closer to Brawl. I'm questioning why they didn't make Falco's forward smash, for example animate like Brawl, but hit on the same frame with the same power as Melee. If they did it for Ganondorf, why not Falco?

Plot twist: The special surprise is Reggie, after the tournament, showing up and introducing himself as none other than Sal Romano.

No. The surprise is that Sal Romano is actually working on the game, and knows if his tipper's information is right/wrong.

 

[Pyra]

Fixed.
Sal is an actual guy who exists, his source for the "leak" is someone else.

Oh, I know he is.
Sal was paid royalties in order for Reggie to use his likeness.

Of course, Reggie's source would be Sakurai. It's one big ploy to screw with the community. Or gauge interest in characters. Either or.

 

[Deleted member]

Or gauge interest in characters.

If the second leak happened earlier, I'd believe this. It would explain why Chrom isn't playable.

Oh wait, Sakurai already explained that...

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

That makes no sense. Falco had some cool Brawl animations so why didn't they retool them to hit similar to his Melee attacks? Ganondorf's down tilt and forward tilt hit like they do in Melee, but animate closer to Brawl. I'm questioning why they didn't make Falco's forward smash, for example animate like Brawl, but hit on the same frame with the same power as Melee. If they did it for Ganondorf, why not Falco?

If you do your research, you'll find that the entire reason PM even started in the first place was because Shadic wanted to make Melee Falco in Brawl and I kinda just took off from there. Doing what you said would kind of go against that. Plus, Melee F-Smash's hitbox is on the feet. Brawl's is on the arms/hands. Making it "just hit the same" isn't exactly how it works. It takes more work than that. Otherwise, you end up with really wonky results and a less than stellar moveset.

But if you still can't comprehend that, here's the short answer that applies to anything and everything in PM:

Because Melee.

Now stop whining.

 

[Deleted member]

But if you still can't comprehend that, here's the short answer that applies to anything and everything in PM:

Because Melee.

Except for Ganondorf's tilts

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

Except for Ganondorf's tilts

Actually, that's also why F-Tilt has diagonal tilts now instead of only a single direction and why all the others, bar the new awesome U-Tilt, hit in a fashion that suits Melee styles gameplay more.

So, yeah, because Melee.

 

[Deleted member]

Oh my god

A VERSION OF THE COURTROOM STAGE WITH PLATFORMS!!

I can finally use the thing without getting pissed that it's a Final Destination clone!! instead it's an inverted battlefield, but that's not too much of an issue because I don't have this layout yet

 

[Dr. James Rustles]

...

I mean that I've been able to follow up with lasers better from the forward smash in PM than in Brawl.

I'll try netplay someday. Right now I have it set up to be set friendly since I am running a tournament next weekend.

 

[allison]

Aw, TitanTeaTime's avatar isn't as awesome as it was

 

[Deleted member]

Aw, TitanTeaTime's avatar isn't as awesome as it was

You mean this?