Smash 4 Social Thread 3.0

[Staarih]

Ugh, I tried a couple of online matches but the lag is just too frustrating. I guess it just must be my connection because I'm not seeing many people complain about it. It does work quite well in other games though. Maybe I ought to try again at a later point... Also, I totally suck as Shulk which is a bit of a shame since as a character he's awesome.

 

[Kaye Cruiser]

What are you talking about?

Hey everybody! Since we sometimes all take silly tests together, who wants to take the Alignment Test? =D

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Find out which alignment suits you best through the power of extremely open-ended and vague questions that you'll have to use your imagination to fill the gaps in for yourself. Screwy, ain't it?

By the way, can anyone guess what alignment I got? I happen to agree with it perfectly. ¦D

That's what we're all talking about. XD

 

[TewnLeenk]

I really like Fox in Smash 3DS and I dominated in For Glory with him...
But I'm so reluctant to play as him more because of his absolutely atrocious voice.

FEYYRRRR

 

[Wario Bros.]

While I get lag on online a number of times online, it sure beats that severely disappointing one Brawl had. I don't know much on how online works but I kinda feel it could improve on lag issues.

 

[TJ-Works]

Ugh, I tried a couple of online matches but the lag is just too frustrating. I guess it just must be my connection because I'm not seeing many people complain about it. It does work quite well in other games though. Maybe I ought to try again at a later point... Also, I totally suck as Shulk which is a bit of a shame since as a character he's awesome.

I think it just depends on the PING strength for each person, as well as the connection strength between two fighters.

I've had matches where the lag was near non-existent, while a couple of other matches it was a bit sluggish. And then the rare match where it was abysmal.

Its just a common problem for online multiplayers in general. No biggie.

 

[MunchyMunch]

Are we still going on about clones? People need to get over it. What's done is done.

Dr Mario 4 Lyfe Yo.

 

[Blargg888]

I really like Fox in Smash 3DS and I dominated in For Glory with him...
But I'm so reluctant to play as him more because of his absolutely atrocious voice.

FEYYRRRR

LENDMESTAR

 

[---]

Cruel Smash is just merciless.

Characters I have managed to land a single KO to those crazed Miis: Pit, Shulk, Ganondorf, Dark Pit and Robin. More often than not, it was because one of them SD'd out of silliness.

The old Jigglypuff trick in which you would lure the foes to the bottomless pit no longer works. The AI is smarter.

This mode truly lives up to its name.

Really? I completed the Beat 5 CPUs challenge on my first try with Ike by spamming Smash attacks.

 

[Blargg888]

So,uh, guys? Can the Joly Haymaker misfire? Cuz I'm having a weird experience with it right now...

 

[MunchyMunch]

Fox sounds like the guy who took my order at Mcdonalds.

WOULD YOU LIKE A LANDMASTER WITH THAT SIR

 

[Wario Bros.]

Fox sounds like the guy who took my order at Mcdonalds.

WOULD YOU LIKE A LANDMASTER WITH THAT SIR

CAN'T LET YOU DRIVE THRU THAT, STAR FOX!

 

[Bedoop]

So,uh, guys? Can the Joly Haymaker misfire? Cuz I'm having a weird experience with it right now...

Pressing B (and I think A) while the animation is going makes Mac punch immediately

 

[Blargg888]

Pressing B (and I think A) while the animation is going makes Mac punch immediately

No, not that. I mean it keeps going incredibly high and way too far...

 

[Frostwraith]

Really? I completed the Beat 5 CPUs challenge on my first try with Ike by spamming Smash attacks.

Well, I'll be damned.

I get completely obliterated by the enemies. They all come at me at once, hit me with 2 or more Smash attacks at once and I'm done.

Unless I spam rolls to stay the hell away from them.

 

[Blargg888]

CAN'T LET YOU DRIVE THRU THAT, STAR FOX!

HANDS OFF MY BURGER!

 

[---]

Well, I'll be damned.

I get completely obliterated by the enemies. They all come at me at once, hit me with 2 or more Smash attacks at once and I'm done.

Unless I spam rolls to stay the hell away from them.

In hindsight, I thinking having a character with a counter helped the most.


That said, I did beat the 3280 HRC with Ike as well. Just stay put and use an uncharged F-Smash, then 6 F-Tilts, followed by an uncharged Up-Smash. Took me about 10-15 tries before I completed it.

Am not looking forward to Target Blast, however. Same goes for beating 100 Man with every character.

 

[Frostwraith]

In hindsight, I thinking having a character with a counter helped the most.


That said, I did beat the 3280 HRC with Ike as well. Just stay put and use an uncharged F-Smash, then 6 F-Tilts, followed by an uncharged Up-Smash. Took me about 10-15 tries before I completed it.

Am not looking forward to Target Blast, however. Same goes for beating 100 Man with every character.

Yeah, counters should help. Maybe I'll try Cruel Smash with Marth or Lucina.

HRC shouldn't be problematic for me if I use Ganondorf.

I like Target Blast. It's actually quite fun, but what is the achievement you're trying too accomplish?

Beating 100-Man Smash with all characters is a bit lengthy. It's best not to try clearing it in one go. Doing it 48 times in a row ought to bore you to death.

 

[Bedoop]

In hindsight, I thinking having a character with a counter helped the most.


That said, I did beat the 3280 HRC with Ike as well. Just stay put and use an uncharged F-Smash, then 6 F-Tilts, followed by an uncharged Up-Smash. Took me about 10-15 tries before I completed it.

Am not looking forward to Target Blast, however. Same goes for beating 100 Man with every character.

HRC is cake with Ganondorf.
FSmash twice, spam FTilt until 2 seconds, Up Smash, Reverse Warlock Punch.
If you want to go simpler, just spam FTilt until one second then RWP, skipping the USmash.

 

[Mega Bidoof]

Fox sounds like the guy who took my order at Mcdonalds.

WOULD YOU LIKE A LANDMASTER WITH THAT SIR

Seriously, he sounds like an awkward teen, with a really nasally voice.

Like the kinda guy that would snort while he's laughing.

Like Mandark from Dexter's Lab.

 

[TJ-Works]

I like Target Blast. It's actually quite fun, but what is the achievement you're trying too accomplish?

Blow sh** up! That's both the fun and the objective.

 

[---]

I like Target Blast. It's actually quite fun, but what is the achievement you're trying too accomplish?

Beating 100-Man Smash with all characters is a bit lengthy. It's best not to try clearing it in one go. Doing it 48 times in a row ought to bore you to death.

Have only played with Bowser to get whatever point achievement was in the first 35 challenges. I didn't really care for it, but then again I haven't figured out a lot of the mechanics for it yet.

I still have the Hit All Red Targets and the second single character high score challenge (I forgot the exact number).

 

[Bedoop]

Have only played with Bowser to get whatever point achievement was in the first 35 challenges. I didn't really care for it, but then again I haven't figured out a lot of the mechanics for it yet.

I still have the Hit All Red Targets and the second single character high score challenge (I forgot the exact number).

I think a Challenge is to clear/destroy the entire area in Target Blast
Not quite sure though

 

[D-idara]

Except the game is advertised as having over 40 characters, not over 50.

Also, if Mewtwo, K. Rool and Ridley were in, three other characters would have to be cut instead, if we wanted to keep the same newcomers. Once again, don't count given the circumstances behind their inception were far different from the rest of the characters.

Sakurai even said that the roster's size was planned from the beginning and he mentioned how alternate versions of characters (what exactly are, gameplay-wise) were excluded from the count, as in, not planned in the beginning of the project's development.

Development time is limited. Like I said over and over again, time constraints limit the developers and leave planned content never fulfilled. This isn't just for Smash either.

Well, I'm saying the big 3 should've been the first three characters to be made...first you please the fans, THEN you can get creative.

I think a Challenge is to clear/destroy the entire area in Target Blast
Not quite sure though

Hammer on that stuff, I was never that good at Angry Birds.

Correction; Fifty-ONE Man Roster.

More like """"""""""""Fifty -One"""""""""

 

[Bedoop]

Well, I'm saying the big 3 should've been the first three characters to be made...first you please the fans, THEN you can get creative.

Because Ridley should be made before Mario.
Or Link.
Or Pikachu.
Or Kirby, Samus, Yoshi, Fox or Donkey Kong.
Surely, this will work

 

[wizardto1]

HRC is cake with Ganondorf.
FSmash twice, spam FTilt until 2 seconds, Up Smash, Reverse Warlock Punch.
If you want to go simpler, just spam FTilt until one second then RWP, skipping the USmash.

Visual GIF on me sig.

 

[D-idara]

Because Ridley should be made before Mario.
Or Link.
Or Pikachu.
Or Kirby, Samus, Yoshi, Fox or Donkey Kong.
Surely, this will work

OK geez excluding veterans. But the Big 3 should've been the first newcomers made.

 

[Aurane]

Well, I'm saying the big 3 should've been the first three characters to be made...first you please the fans, THEN you can get creative.

"Should" is subjective. >_>

 

[RamOne]

KO 5 Miis in Cruel Smash. I did it. Hurray!

 

[D-idara]

"Should" is subjective. >_>

The tons of polls where Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo always landed within the Top 5 aren't subjective, the fanbase wants those characters, and when you're making a game built on top of fanservice, YOU LISTEN TO THE FANS.

KO 5 Miis in Cruel Smash. I did it. Hurray!

How...?

 

[Frostwraith]

Real men do all challenges without using hammers. Like I did in Brawl.

Visual GIF on me sig.

The Great King knows how it's done.

Anyway, I think the whole "pleasing the fans" mentality is actually not seen in a good light by a good number of game developers, given how it's impossible to fully satisfy everyone.

I know a few communities of games where the developers keep pandering to the fanbase by changing stuff over and over and let me tell you those fanbases are just awfully divided. The problem is that, by pandering to certain people, they inevitably alienate other people.

This is why I defend that developers should make their games as they see fit. Regardless of pandering or not, there will always be satisfied people and pissed off people.

 

[RamOne]

How...?

Using Ike and backthrow them in the pit. And I was lucky I KOd 2 Miis while using Aether.

 

[praline]

I got Chaotic Neutral.

 

[Blargg888]

HRC is cake with Ganondorf.
FSmash twice, spam FTilt until 2 seconds, Up Smash, Reverse Warlock Punch.
If you want to go simpler, just spam FTilt until one second then RWP, skipping the USmash.

OH MY GO-
IT WENT SO FA-
I'M SPEECHL-

 

[Bedoop]

OH MY GO-
IT WENT SO FA-
I'M SPEECHL-

Go fast
or Die Trying

 

[D-idara]

Anyway, I think the whole "pleasing the fans" mentality is actually not seen in a good light by a good number of game developers, given how it's impossible to fully satisfy everyone.

I know a few communities of games where the developers keep pandering to the fanbase by changing stuff over and over and let me tell you those fanbases are just awfully divided. The problem is that, by pandering to certain people, they inevitably alienate other people.

This is why I defend that developers should make their games as they see fit. Regardless of pandering or not, there will always be satisfied people and pissed off people.

SMASH IS DIFFERENT, it's a fanservice game, you're supposed to please the fans on a fanservice game...and can you tell me who would feel alienated if Sakurai added Mewtwo, K.Rool and Ridley? I'm willing to bet the ratio of people who wouldn't like that would be like 1 to 20...he would finally throw a bone to fanbases that have been left unnatended because he was too busy porting everything from Kid Icarus Uprising to bother thinking about those fanbases.

Make Ridley, K.Rool, Mewtwo, Isaac playable? Probably 2% of the fanbase won't like them.
Make Rosalina, Duck Hunt Dog, Greninja, Robin, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina, Wii Fit Trainer playable? Like 80% of the fanbase hates those characters, or at least one of them (This coming from a gigantic Rosalina fan...I just know she's not really an All-Star).

So why? Why did he do it? Seriously, by looking at Sakurai's choices and patterns, it seems more and more like he focused on doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the fanbase expected, but much more importantly, WANTED.

The only characters I think could be considered blatant fan-pandering would be Geno or Roy, Geno because he has no place among Nintendo All-Stars and appeared on one non-main-series game. And Roy because his fan-demand comes from Super Smash Bros. Melee rather than his own damn game. I'm actually glad Mewtwo sucks on Melee, because it helps prove that the fanbase wants him back not because of his moveset, not because he was in Melee, but because he's ****ING MEWTWO.

If he was making, say, Kid Icarus Uprising 2, then yes, let the man do whatever he wants and experiment as much as he wants, because he's dealing with a franchise that he revived and knows better, but if you're given the responsibility of making a game featuring Nintendo's All-Stars, you just CAN'T have favorites, you gotta listen to the fans because this game's supposed to be a love letter to all Nintendo fans, not a love letter to Sakurai, and if the fans want Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo, then give them friggin Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo before you start looking around your Top 10 games list to add characters.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Back in my younger days with Brawl I remember using a hammer on the 100 Man Brawl with all characters challenge, but I've decided not to chicken out and legitimately clear 100 Man Smash with everyone.

 

[Bedoop]

You know what;
@ D-idara
Let's calm down.
Be Civil...
...and without being salty,
Tell me what you like and dislike about the roster.
Don't go into full detail, just tell us what you think of this roster.
Short and simple answers are the best ones.
Don't point any fingers or call any names, just tell us what you think.

We can talk about this without causing a ruckus.
No swears, bad name-calling, finger pointing, ect.
Just likes and dislikes.

 

[Deleted member]

Anyway, I think the whole "pleasing the fans" mentality is actually not seen in a good light by a good number of game developers, given how it's impossible to fully satisfy everyone.

I know a few communities of games where the developers keep pandering to the fanbase by changing stuff over and over and let me tell you those fanbases are just awfully divided. The problem is that, by pandering to certain people, they inevitably alienate other people.

This is why I defend that developers should make their games as they see fit. Regardless of pandering or not, there will always be satisfied people and pissed off people.

You said it, man. Agreed x9000.

 

[Aurane]

The tons of polls where Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo always landed within the Top 5 aren't subjective, the fanbase wants those characters, and when you're making a game built on top of fanservice, YOU LISTEN TO THE FANS.

And currently, they didn't make it. What a shame. Guess this means Smash Bros sucks and I should find a new hobby, right?

 

[wizardto1]

SMASH IS DIFFERENT, it's a fanservice game, you're supposed to please the fans on a fanservice game...and can you tell me who would feel alienated if Sakurai added Mewtwo, K.Rool and Ridley? I'm willing to bet the ratio of people who wouldn't like that would be like 1 to 20...he would finally throw a bone to fanbases that have been left unnatended because he was too busy porting everything from Kid Icarus Uprising to bother thinking about those fanbases.

Make Ridley, K.Rool, Mewtwo, Isaac playable? Probably 2% of the fanbase won't like them.
Make Rosalina, Duck Hunt Dog, Greninja, Robin, Dr. Mario, Dark Pit, Lucina, Wii Fit Trainer playable? Like 80% of the fanbase hates those characters, or at least one of them (This coming from a gigantic Rosalina fan...I just know she's not really an All-Star).

So why? Why did he do it? Seriously, by looking at Sakurai's choices and patterns, it seems more and more like he focused on doing the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the fanbase expected, but much more importantly, WANTED.

The only characters I think could be considered blatant fan-pandering would be Geno or Roy, Geno because he has no place among Nintendo All-Stars and appeared on one non-main-series game. And Roy because his fan-demand comes from Super Smash Bros. Melee rather than his own damn game. I'm actually glad Mewtwo sucks on Melee, because it helps prove that the fanbase wants him back not because of his moveset, not because he was in Melee, but because he's ****ING MEWTWO.

If he was making, say, Kid Icarus Uprising 2, then yes, let the man do whatever he wants and experiment as much as he wants, because he's dealing with a franchise that he revived and knows better, but if you're given the responsibility of making a game featuring Nintendo's All-Stars, you just CAN'T have favorites, you gotta listen to the fans because this game's supposed to be a love letter to all Nintendo fans, not a love letter to Sakurai, and if the fans want Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo, then give them friggin Ridley, K.Rool and Mewtwo before you start looking around your Top 10 games list to add characters.

Yes because apparently everyone wants those 3. Look I know you're upset and I want those 3 too but you're acting like they are they're the only fan - favorites, and that no one who fans want got in.