Event - EVO 2013 (Breast Cancer Research Drive) Skullgirls Misleading reddit thread

[Hokkaido]

They know absolutely nothing about the game.

Not quite. I actually did follow the Skullgirls developer podcasts, and they did a series where the voice actresses were pretty much hanging out together and learning how to play the game directly from Mike Z. It was an entire series where later videos had them playing against eachother, and although it was nowhere near as good as anybody on these forums could probably get after the same amount of practice, it was really impressive to me because almost none of them are actual gamers.

Makes me wish I could play melee with the voice actor for Captain mother****ing Falcon.

If Skullgirls does win somehow, I would be delighted to watch them commentate. The **** they come up with is ****ing hilarious.

 

[Dantarion]

People need to realize that no matter what game you like, this contest means a ton to the communities for both games.

Smash needs exposure. Hopefully Nintendo sees Melee as EVO as a big enough deal to take the compeitive crowd seriously and put some effort into Smash 4. Brawl is a fantastically well made game. Let me say that again. BRAWL IS A WELL MADE GAME. You thinking in your head "Brawl sucks?". Well, it sucks to us because we were not the market that was targeted when they developed it. After working on Project M, I realized that Brawl and Melee are not actually that different on an engine level. If HAL had spent 4 months of the development cycle on balancing Brawl, testing it with top Melee players in Japan, etc, Brawl wouldn't have had its rocky tournament history.

Skullgirls needs exposure. Mike Z set out to make a game that he wanted to be competitive. Why is this relevant?It is actually pretty much the same way I feel about Project M. While whether Mike Z succeeded or not is up to your own interpretation, Skullgirls is an american made game developed by a fan of fighting games, FOR fans of fighting games.We have absolutely NO input on smash 4. We have no contact with developers, artists, test locations, NOTHING. Because Nintendo doesn't care. But Mike Z cares enough to reach out to the community and involve them in the development process.

Both of these communities are good groups, fighting for a change to make their game get noticed and move on. I am fighting for Melee, but I will be happy no matter who wins, because Skullgirls success reflects well for ANYONE that wants fighting games in the US to become more of a thing, including games like Smash/PSAS, which, like Skullgirls, was developed in the states.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I listened to at least 30 minutes of their commentary at least.

And what did I learn about SGs from them? Absolutely nothing. They mentioned SGs like 5 times total as a match was being played and it was nothing relevant.

Plus ima gonna repeat myself. The competitive SG community does not even exist dont know where people got this idea. If it did tournaments would not be getting an average of 0-2 entrants.

 

[Hokkaido]

We have absolutely NO input on smash 4. We have no contact with developers, artists, test locations, NOTHING. Because Nintendo doesn't care. But Mike Z cares enough to reach out to the community and involve them in the development process.

This hits me so ****ing hard. I wish Sakurai would connect with the community more, and the closest we've seen to that is pretty much the brawl pre-release blog... which in my opinion was more of a "showcase" than any meaningful communication... and I feel like even if he did start becoming more pro-active within the community, it would be the Japanese community for sure.

 

[Dukeofdeath5]

Both of these communities are good groups, fighting for a change to make their game get noticed and move on.

THIS! even though I am routing for melee, that's only because there is only one spot open. I would be happy to see them both make it to evo

 

[Cubelarooso]

Evo is the true villains here, pitting us against each other for charity. It's like The Hunger Royale or Whatever.

 

[BrandX]

Evo is the true villains here, pitting us against each other for charity. It's like The Hunger Royale or Whatever.

Exactly. It's such cruel fate that we are against each other ;___;

 

[Todd Bonney]

You know a game is bad when even the VAs don't care about it.

0/10. I don't believe anyone could be this dumb.

This thread is due for a lock. The whole idea of getting VAs and fans from other scenes to donate is not unfair at all. It's innovative. I don't think we could do the same, however, for 2 reasons: 1) Most of the VAs are in Japan and most of the donors are in America, and 2) I can guarantee Charles Martinet would be out of a job for saying "Boback's **** is a-f*ckin' hard!" as Mario, even for charity. Nintendo's character's are much bigger.

 

[FreedomFighter]

No the biggest crime is Skullgirls, a game literally no one plays competitively has a shot at wining.

I said it before and I'll say it again. My God FGC, if you wanted Smash to lose so bad you should have atleast picked a worthy game to beat it. Just about everything on that list apart from Skullgirls and DOA.

 

[Exeggutorr]

The problem with SG's community IMO is that the game is a 2d fighter that is similar(I've been told it's not identical) to the other big name 2d fighters and this just causes their community to just be an extension of the FGC where their game is in the background and not cared for because there are other successful games. If SG gets into EVO, in a year maybe 2, the FGC along with most of the SG community will move on to the next successful game. As much as people wanna say it's not the SG devs fault the game is behind, the fact is it is still hindering the game and recovering will be extremely hard if not impossible. If SSBM gets into EVO a community that has been thriving off of itself for years can possibly gain some interest and prolong its life.

 

[smashmachine]

I can guarantee Charles Martinet would be out of a job for saying "Boback's **** is a-f*ckin' hard!" as Mario, even for charity.

he only needs to do Captain Falcon voices, come on now

 

[Dantarion]

This hits me so ****ing hard. I wish Sakurai would connect with the community more, and the closest we've seen to that is pretty much the brawl pre-release blog... which in my opinion was more of a "showcase" than any meaningful communication... and I feel like even if he did start becoming more pro-active within the community, it would be the Japanese community for sure.

Exactly. Its not like there are places in Japan where they do public beta tests, or even allowing the public to see match footage or play the game before hand like Capcom did with UMvC3 and SFxT at EVO.

One of my favorite Skullgirls memories was of playing the game at Revalations, witnessing invisible assist bug, then having Mike Z update the build several times THAT DAY. Then again at EVO, coming and playing Parasoul with the original tears that never exploded (i think that was it), then having them changed the next day. Then getting to play Valentine when she was added to the game the lastday of...SCR was it?

Across 3 events in Socal, I got to see the game evolve! That kinda exposure to a games development cycle is why they have a community at all.

The problem with SG's community IMO is that the game is a 2d fighter that is similar(I've been told it's not identical) to the other big name 2d fighters and this just causes their community to just be an extension of the FGC where their game is in the background and not cared for because there are other successful games.

Not really. The ONLY reason SG isn't more successful is because people aren't attached to the characters like people are to Ryu, or Mario, or Iron Man.

For example, did anybody buy the first Smash because of the gameplay at first? No, they bought it because of the characters, no one was thinking about balance or gameplay or anything. Are street fighter fans going to NOT buy SF5? Are marvel fans not going to just throw money at MvC4 no matter what it is?
Sequelitis is killing the market for unique games and new franchises, a company has to take a big risk to make a new franchise, and the only big recent FG one I can think of is Blazblue, and Blazblue probably wouldn't exist if Arc System Works didn't temporarily not have GG rights.

 

[Shawn101589]

Half the people in this thread make me disgusted to be part of this community.


Show some respect, understand that this is a competition and that Evo doesn't owe either side anything, and that we are both working for a good cause. Also understand that if donations were only coming from the communities, both of us would be at a FRACTION of the donations we currently have. We are all using everything in our power to promote our cause, and as long as we aren't breaking the rules of the competition while doing so, there is no harm in it regardless of whatever biased bull**** you guys want to spew. Enough already.

They need this. We need this. Only one of us can have it. There is no reason for all the disrespect (I know some of them are doing the same, it DOES NOT EXCUSE US DOING IT SO KNOCK IT OFF).

 

[smashmachine]

We are all using everything in our power to promote our cause, and as long as we aren't breaking the rules of the competition while doing so, there is no harm in it regardless of whatever biased bull**** you guys want to spew.

you want to define these rules for us

 

[Shawn101589]

you want to define these rules for us

No company donations. And from what I can tell, neither community is doing that.

 

[iLink]

No the biggest crime is Skullgirls, a game literally no one plays competitively has a shot at wining.

I said it before and I'll say it again. My God FGC, if you wanted Smash to lose so bad you should have atleast picked a worthy game to beat it. Just about everything on that list apart from Skullgirls and DOA.

Holy **** you are ridiculously ignorant. I have people to play with all the time. There are even weekly tournaments that average numbers equal to local turnouts for brawl and melee.

The issue is there isn't as much money involved with the game and it isn't a capcom fighter. It doesn't get as much exposure because of this. It was literally a small group of people that put the game together and don't have the budget that big name companies have. The devs were planning on more updates, but were suddenly fired and had no funding to keep supporting the game.

I've been a member of smash since early melee tournaments started and still play it to this day. I am also pretty active in the FGC. I actually know enough history behind both scenes to not have a totaly bias opinion. You on the other hand, probably don't know the first thing about the other side.

And to the people saying the VA don't care about the game, you are freaking ridiculous. If you actually watched the stream, you would know. They just don't want to seem overly assertive to the fact that they are support the game while also supporting breast cancer research.

 

[smashmachine]

No company donations. And from what I can tell, neither community is doing that.

alright, time to shut down all skullgirls streams and take their current money

 

[FreedomFighter]

Holy **** you are ridiculously ignorant. I have people to play with all the time. There are even weekly tournaments that average numbers equal to local turnouts for brawl and melee.

The issue is there isn't as much money involved with the game and it isn't a capcom fighter. It doesn't get as much exposure because of this. It was literally a small group of people that put the game together and don't have the budget that big name companies have. The devs were planning on more updates, but were suddenly fired and had no funding to keep supporting the game.

I've been a member of smash since early melee tournaments started and still play it to this day. I am also pretty active in the FGC. I actually know enough history behind both scenes to not have a totaly bias opinion. You on the other hand, probably don't know the first thing about the other side.

And to the people saying the VA don't care about the game, you are freaking ridiculous. If you actually watched the stream, you would know. They just don't want to seem overly assertive to the fact that they are support the game while also supporting breast cancer research.

I watched the stream for 30 minutes and in that time they barely mentioned skullgirls at all they were talking about all kinds of other stuff. The few times they mentioned it they apoligized for not really knowing anything about the game or its mechanics. If you lie about this again ima dig up the archives and make you look foolish.

They don't play it. Get over it. Your game is trash. Get over it. Go play a real fighter if you want "exposure". You wont have to make up numbers then.

 

[BrandX]

I watched the stream for 30 minutes and in that time they barely mentioned skullgirls at all they were talking about all kinds of other stuff. The few times they mentioned it they apoligized for not really knowing anything about the game or its mechanics. If you lie about this again ima dig up the archives and make you look foolish.

They don't play it. Get over it. Your game is trash. Get over it. Go play a real fighter if you want "exposure". You wont have to make up numbers then.

Wow...even vicious to your own community members...you have come to a real low dude. You are no longer funny.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I don't belong to a particular community. I just support good fighting games. That includes Smash.

It sure as hell will never include Skullgirls. That game has a year at most before its completely dead. I only say it's not completely dead now because 2 people showed up that one time. Then again maybe the fetish people will keep it alive at least casually such as yourself.

 

[smashmachine]

That game has a year at most before its completely dead.

can't be dead if it was never living

Spoiler

oops thought this was the vita thread

 

[BrandX]

I don't belong to a particular community. I just support good fighting games. That includes Smash.

It sure as hell will never include Skullgirls. That game has a year at most before its completely dead. I only say it's not completely dead now because 2 people showed up that one time. Then again maybe the fetish people will keep it alive at least casually such as yourself.

I love how you keep referring to our community as "fetish" people. You sure know respect, good job dude. Wow, I mean, seriously dude. You've overstayed your welcome. Go support marvel or something, they got people who would welcome you right at home.

Nobody on the smash forum wants you, deal with it.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I never said it only has fetish people. It clearly has tournament players (at least 2 of them!).
I'm just explaining why it will never be taken seriously as a fighter just like Dead or Alive.
If you think I'm the only one on these boards that knows how bad SG is you are dead wrong.
Plus if you have an open mind you'll realize why your game has achieved nothin in over a year it's been out. People just don't support bad games.

Pick a better game if you really aren't just sticking to SGs becasue of a fetish (which I'm guessing based off your posts you probably are).

 

[Hokkaido]

can't be dead if it was never living

Spoiler

oops thought this was the vita thread

I have a vita and it is the most amazing piece of hardware I have ever held in my hands since the Gameboy Advance.

Ever experience that time you think you'll "spend a minute on your portable before falling asleep" while in bed? NOPE. How about ALL-NIGHTER? It really shines if you have Playstation Plus and "exploit" the downloading trick where you can pretty much build a free library of games even though you're not supposed to have access after the period ends.

That all said and done, I still wouldn't recommend it to your average college student/entry-level worker. That **** cost me 10 billion dollars.

 

[smashmachine]

I have a vita and it is the most amazing piece of hardware I have ever held in my hands since the Gameboy Advance.

Ever experience that time you think you'll "spend a minute on your portable before falling asleep" while in bed? NOPE. How about ALL-NIGHTER?

yeah, its called a 3ds
but lets not start a console war in this thread lmao

hey

3ds sux

too busy getting hype for fire emblem awakening to hear you lalala

 

[BrandX]

I never said it only has fetish people. It clearly has tournament players (at least 2 of them!).
I'm just explaining why it will never be taken seriously as a fighter just like Dead or Alive.
If you think I'm the only one on these boards that knows how bad SG is you are dead wrong.
Plus if you have an open mind you'll realize why your game has achieved nothin in over a year it's been out. People just don't support bad games.

Wow, I just love every single word you type. It's absolutely amazing.

And seriously, stop dissing Dead or Alive. I had met someone at my local arcade that was working extremely hard to get Dead or Alive popular in our town, and I respected him for it. He was lucky enough to be getting people in his tournament. The respect comes from trying to revive scenes and have them flourish again. That is pure and utter dedication.

I know for a fact that not everyone likes SG's, but by far I've only seen ***wipes like you show the hell out of nowhere and come bashing on a community that wanted to support you, I literally started playing Smash because the community was so open arms for letting me in.

People like you are what cause communities to get a bad image, you've been doing that all day. And people are getting extremely tired of you.

Your not funny anymore, you are pathetic and sad. But keep going, I love watching the total salt and rage against our community you keep showing, it's delicious.

 

[Hokkaido]

console war

hey

3ds sux

 

[FreedomFighter]

Hey BrandX drop SGs, pick up a better game. Since almost every fighting game this gen has been better than SGs it should not be too hard.

You'll be happier and your investment will actually mean something (other series actually get sequels!).

I'm not saying this to diss. I'm trying to help you out. If you liked other fighting games and not just one because of a fetish you would not mind people bashing it for being bad.

Also no one cares if you pick up Smash or not. It's your loss on missing such an amazing series. And it's going to sell several millions with or without your help.

 

[El Duderino]

Hey BrandX drop SGs, pick up a better game.

How about you drop this argument and watch the stream?

 

[Jim Morrison]

I never said it only has fetish people. It clearly has tournament players (at least 2 of them!).
I'm just explaining why it will never be taken seriously as a fighter just like Dead or Alive.
If you think I'm the only one on these boards that knows how bad SG is you are dead wrong.
Plus if you have an open mind you'll realize why your game has achieved nothin in over a year it's been out. People just don't support bad games.

Pick a better game if you really aren't just sticking to SGs becasue of a fetish (which I'm guessing based off your posts you probably are).

Can you just leave the thread and stop posting, you and your buttbuddy smashmachine are getting annoying as hell.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

Not gonna lie, this thread makes me feel pretty bad about some of the newer additions, who seem to be speaking their mind as if they already are a prevalent force and the voice of the community. Tbh, I (and several other players I know) don't give a flying sparkly **** about which game makes it. The simple fact that the community has already shown its strength to even have a chance is enough. The best part is, not only did we show our will to support our game, but we're helping the cause against breast cancer AT THE SAME DAMN TIME! I'm actually very proud of the SG community for being able to do the same, whereas the MLP community abandoned the upcoming game as soon as they heard it would only be an exhibition, which seems rather shallow in my personal opinion. You young'ens need to learn something from this.

1) It's not about our game making it, its about the cause.
2) We've already shown we're a strong community by even having a chance this late in the game. No sense in acting all tough guy about this now, all you're doing is dragging all those who really care with you.
3) I wonder how many of you considered that maybe we DON'T belong with the likes of the EVO games that got picked in the top 7 because our game ISN'T EVER GONNA BE EVEN CLOSE TO WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR! Why can't we find a different group to call home (or even stay on our own) instead of trying so damn hard to fit in?
4) I'mma bring this up again, because I still can't believe this **** is happening. ARE WE SERIOUSLY FIGHTING OVER A CHARITY? REALLY?

 

[BrandX]

Hey BrandX drop SGs, pick up a better game. Since almost every fighting game this gen has been better than SGs it should not be too hard.

You'll be happier and your investment will actually mean something (other series actually get sequels!).

I'm not saying this to diss. I'm trying to help you out. If you liked other fighting games and not just one because of a fetish you would not mind people bashing it for being bad.

Also no one cares if you pick up Smash or not. It's your loss on missing such an amazing series. And it's going to sell several millions with or without your help.

Oh lord. OH lord. OH LORD. Holy **** dude. Thanks for making me pee myself with laughter, you are probably the funniest troll I've ever met, holy ****.

Look I'm going to be solid with you, I love pretty much all of the fighting games I have (except SFxT, haven't tried the 2013 patch).

I own SSF4Arcade Edition 2012, Marvel vs Capcom Origins, Marvel vs Capcom 2, Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3, Persona 4 Arena, Blazblue, Capcom vs SNK 2, Arcana Heart, Capcom Fighting Evolution, Tatsunoko vs Capcom, Super Smash Bros Brawl, Darkstalkers 3, King of Fighters 11, Neo Geo Battle Colosseum, Most of the Street Fighter Alpha series, Street Figher 3 Online Edition, Rivals School, Playstation All Stars, the Neo Geo Pocket Fighters, etc, etc, etc, etc

Look, I'm not trying to prove I have a fighting game *** then you, I'm just saying that saying I don't like any other fighting games is absolutely hilarious.

Sure, I play mostly SkullGirls, but I still love playing my other fighting games as well~

So your total argument is invalid. Btw, I'm not going to stop playing SG's, so deal with it <3 I have plenty to play, but SkullGirls is the fighter I love the best over everything else.

 

[FreedomFighter]

I am almost certain you just googled to find those games because no one gets that overly defensive unless they are flat out lying.

I'm willing to bet the only fighting game you play seriously/have ever been remotely good at is SGs.

That or you just REALLY have a fetish going on.

 

[smashmachine]

Can you just leave the thread and stop posting, you and your buttbuddy smashmachine are getting annoying as hell.

whoa whoa wtf
i'm not chopping on skullgirls at all

 

[the melon!!!!!]

I am almost certain you just googled to find those games because no one gets that overly defensive unless they are flat out lying.

I'm willing to bet the only fighting game you play seriously/have ever been remotely good at is SGs.

That or you just REALLY have a fetish going on.

Or you just have an anti BrandX fetish...

 

[BrandX]

I am almost certain you just googled to find those games because no one gets that overly defensive unless they are flat out lying.

I'm willing to bet the only fighting game you play seriously/have ever been remotely good at is SGs.

That or you just REALLY have a fetish going on.

Dude, do you live where I am? No? Then there is no argument. Sure, maybe I am only good at SG's, but it's thanks to SG's that I am even remotely starting to get decent at others.


Look, I would love to keep talking to you, but your lulzy attitude is upsetting everyone, and I don't feel like fueling your fire anymore.

Have fun letting everyone hate you because your a total fool and total tool~

Now back to lurking (or at least responding to people who actually matter)

Edit: I must add, keep going. Your hatred for me is only cute. I'm going to keep looking at every comment you make about me and just laugh extremely hard. You just love to keep stroking your big e-**** to show me up, when in reality, you are nothing more then a loser who has nothing better to do but troll other communities who don't have your same taste.

Go on, keep insulting me. I love it~

Or you just have an anti BrandX fetish...

Sir, you win~

 

[Hokkaido]

Or you just have an anti BrandX fetish...

Mmmmmmm.....

 

[FreedomFighter]

In other words SGs is the only fighter you are good at. You probably think it's the best for that reason alone (plus fetish). Because trust me calling SGs the best at anything (other than maybe fetishes) proves you know nothing about fighting games.

I must say I do find BrandX intruging melon. He plays Skullgirls after all. A rare specimen indeed.

 

[the melon!!!!!]

In other words SGs is the only fighter you are good at. You probably think it's the best for that reason alone (plus fetish). Because trust me calling SGs the best at anything (other than maybe fetishes) proves you know nothing about fighting games.

I must say I do find BrandX intruging melon. He plays Skullgirls after all. A rare specimen indeed.

Okay, so now that we have that out of the way, could we PLEASE stop yelling at each other? I wanna go eat dinner and I really don't want to wait for you to make a snappy yet ignorant remark before I make fun of it again.

 

[BrandX]

Okay, so now that we have that out of the way, could we PLEASE stop yelling at each other? I wanna go eat dinner and I really don't want to wait for you to make a snappy yet ignorant remark before I make fun of it again.

Thank you, I agree on this. I personally think that this topic should get locked. Nothing good has come from it except lulzy trolls.