Social Shulk Social : Starting to feel it!

[Berserker.]

I don't really feel about Risk. It's just I'll pop buster because I don't have Speed available, or right after I get them ~40% and im fishing to put them to 80% off a string, then I get out of Buster.
The window at which I use it is small.

Actually, that's actually one good, creative, and safe way on how to use buster. It's not like you need to rack up the damage meter to 200% or anything anyway

 

[ChronoPenguin]

To me its just similar to Smash. You don't really use Smash before 80%.
You don't have much follow ups before 30/40% in Buster either. By 80% you can already get kills on Jiggly, G&W,Pikachu, Fox, Olimar and Rosa.
Speed can handle the whole 0-40% game, and 80-120% when you're not dealing with Smash or if you're not in a strong position to use Smash. Plus if you're missing windows of the follow ups you're not sure about...speed still works great for 40-80%.

Don't get me wrong Speed has its hiccups. Doing 20% less damage, to an extent is like giving your opposition a 20% damage bonus (jump) over you in the case of trades, but it doesn't make them kill you faster.

However for the window I want to use buster (because I feel its effective at that %), if I go over that % because you know...stuff happens. Then I feel the window is closed go back to Speed, and that window can close *a lot* over multiple games.

 

[erico9001]

You guys know you can post about match-ups in the match-up main thread, right? Just saying.
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So... I just did 95% damage on my Shulk amiibo with just one hit, OHKO'ing from the far side of FD while I was in Monado Buster. How? Power vision. Lmao, I love this custom.

The lv 50 Shulk amiibo has +80 atk, +40 def, 0 speed. It did a Buster F-tilt on my power vision. My custom Shulk I was using has +54 atk. I was also at 70% damage so had some rage...

Now I have some things to discuss which would spoil the end of Xenoblade

Spoiler: Xenoblade ending

So I went through with stealing @AlvisCPU's naming of his Shulk amiibo Zanza. Something I love about this is when you put the amiibo on the gamepad in the amiibo customizations, the neutral color Shulk falls down like with all other amiibos, but then out comes Zanza!

Zanza is a powerful amiibo. He knows your actions before you make them due to input reading, and when he has a vision, it hurts. However, while great, his power is not unlimited. There is one who has the ability to beat him. Shulk.

it is thanks to Shulk's down B, power vision, that he can best Zanza.

Anyways, I just got a really cool replay of Shulk fighting Zanza on final destination (space). I start out by losing two stocks, but then I have a huge comeback. I think the point where things got turned around... that's when I got the true Monado.

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

You guys know you can post about match-ups in the match-up main thread, right? Just saying.
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So... I just did 95% damage on my Shulk amiibo with just one hit, OHKO'ing from the far side of FD while I was in Monado Buster. How? Power vision. Lmao, I love this custom.

The lv 50 Shulk amiibo has +80 atk, +40 def, 0 speed. It did a Buster F-tilt on my power vision. My custom Shulk I was using has +54 atk. I was also at 70% damage so had some rage...

Now I have some things to discuss which would spoil the end of Xenoblade

Spoiler: Xenoblade ending

So I went through with stealing @AlvisCPU's naming of his Shulk amiibo Zanza. Something I love about this is when you put the amiibo on the gamepad in the amiibo customizations, the neutral color Shulk falls down like with all other amiibos, but then out comes Zanza!

Zanza is a powerful amiibo. He knows your actions before you make them due to input reading, and when he has a vision, it hurts. However, while great, his power is not unlimited. There is one who has the ability to beat him. Shulk.

it is thanks to Shulk's down B, power vision, that he can best Zanza.

Anyways, I just got a really cool replay of Shulk fighting Zanza on final destination (space). I start out by losing two stocks, but then I have a huge comeback. I think the point where things got turned around... that's when I got the true Monado.

95% with Power Vision you say?
Well, look at this..
http://smashboards.com/threads/zelda-social-warning-received-png.344739/page-435#post-18550087
POWER VISION 2 STRONG

 

[erico9001]

95% with Power Vision you say?
Well, look at this..
http://smashboards.com/threads/zelda-social-warning-received-png.344739/page-435#post-18550087
POWER VISION 2 STRONG

Mm. Damn dude. Btw, that social thread moves fast O.O

 

[S.F.L.R_9]

Mm. Damn dude. Btw, that social thread moves fast O.O

I really want customs to be legal just so we can see some crazy Power Vision stuff like that (but obviously not that insane.)
And haha yeah it does move insanely fast. Kind of ironic since not too many people play Zelda competitively.

 

[Virum]

"Life is this crazy mystical thing, and sometimes you just go out like a Monado Buster"

 

[Berserker.]

Once you land n-air to f-tilt/f-smash, you can literally switch off buster and go for the kill

Anyway, what you said about buster seems reasonable anyway

 

[KimKarsmashian]

Are there any forums for Xenoblade? I'm still halfway through the game so I wouldn't be joining any soon, but I feel like there's a lot to discuss about it.

 

[Berserker.]

Are there any forums for Xenoblade? I'm still halfway through the game so I wouldn't be joining any soon, but I feel like there's a lot to discuss about it.

You can discuss anything Xenoblade related here

 

[spiderfreak1011]

You guys know you can post about match-ups in the match-up main thread, right? Just saying.
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So... I just did 95% damage on my Shulk amiibo with just one hit, OHKO'ing from the far side of FD while I was in Monado Buster. How? Power vision. Lmao, I love this custom.

The lv 50 Shulk amiibo has +80 atk, +40 def, 0 speed. It did a Buster F-tilt on my power vision. My custom Shulk I was using has +54 atk. I was also at 70% damage so had some rage...

Now I have some things to discuss which would spoil the end of Xenoblade

Spoiler: Xenoblade ending

So I went through with stealing @AlvisCPU's naming of his Shulk amiibo Zanza. Something I love about this is when you put the amiibo on the gamepad in the amiibo customizations, the neutral color Shulk falls down like with all other amiibos, but then out comes Zanza!

Zanza is a powerful amiibo. He knows your actions before you make them due to input reading, and when he has a vision, it hurts. However, while great, his power is not unlimited. There is one who has the ability to beat him. Shulk.

it is thanks to Shulk's down B, power vision, that he can best Zanza.

Anyways, I just got a really cool replay of Shulk fighting Zanza on final destination (space). I start out by losing two stocks, but then I have a huge comeback. I think the point where things got turned around... that's when I got the true Monado.

You know, you don't need just Power vision to beat your amiibo. Any person who has a counter (minus Palutena) will work, lol. But i understand what you were going for with the Xeno spoilers. : 3 Do you have your amiibo on the White/Fiora palette swap?

IMO, Shulk's hardest match ups are...

(Definitely -2 here >_>)
(-2 for sure)
(Like Sheik, between -2 and -1)
(Eh, maybe between -2 and -1)
(-1 imo. Could be -2 but then again, imo -1)

Everyone else is FINE but these characters are definitely trouble for Shulk. Like, not an unwinnable mess or anything but you're going to need to work hard here

I don't find Ness too hard, although maybe it's because i haven't fought a reaaaaaaally good one yet. Sonic can camp Shulk out with chip damage so hard, and i barely find any openings to attack, it's annoying. Fox is so fast (faster than Sheik on the ground anyway) that i get pressured too hard and overwhelmed by him, so it's always a challenge to win. Sheik...Not too bad honestly, i thought she'd be harder. Diddy, is a nightmare for me. Against a good one, i will get wrecked, because it feels like no matter what i do, Shulk has few to no options with dealing with him. I'd rather go Zero Suit in this match up.

Also...I got some news guys.
For anyone who is interested in Shulk, GO ASK ABOUT THE PRE-ORDER AT GAMESTOP ITSELF IN PERSON.

I went there earlier today, and told the person at the cashier about the second wave of Shulk that was on the website for early May. She said that he was available to be shipped to my house and i ordered him. I asked her why he was available to pre-order today when my mom went yesterday and was un-able to do it then. The Gamestop cashier said that Gamestop was informed that they'd gotten extra amiibo stock for Shulk to put up for Pre-order very early in the day, so pre-orders went back up.
Anyone who wants Shulk, you might wanna check Gamestop again to make sure if you can pre-order. I pre-ordered mine, and i'd say today's a good day. I can wait a few months. : 3

 

[Berserker.]

Diddy is not hard. Sheik's slightly more difficult. Sonic is just BORING to fight against. ZSS is probably really close to even imo

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

You know, you don't need just Power vision to beat your amiibo. Any person who has a counter (minus Palutena) will work, lol. But i understand what you were going for with the Xeno spoilers. : 3 Do you have your amiibo on the White/Fiora palette swap?



I don't find Ness too hard, although maybe it's because i haven't fought a reaaaaaaally good one yet. Sonic can camp Shulk out with chip damage so hard, and i barely find any openings to attack, it's annoying. Fox is so fast (faster than Sheik on the ground anyway) that i get pressured too hard and overwhelmed by him, so it's always a challenge to win. Sheik...Not too bad honestly, i thought she'd be harder. Diddy, is a nightmare for me. Against a good one, i will get wrecked, because it feels like no matter what i do, Shulk has few to no options with dealing with him. I'd rather go Zero Suit in this match up.

Also...I got some news guys.
For anyone who is interested in Shulk, GO ASK ABOUT THE PRE-ORDER AT GAMESTOP ITSELF IN PERSON.

I went there earlier today, and told the person at the cashier about the second wave of Shulk that was on the website for early May. She said that he was available to be shipped to my house and i ordered him. I asked her why he was available to pre-order today when my mom went yesterday and was un-able to do it then. The Gamestop cashier said that Gamestop was informed that they'd gotten extra amiibo stock for Shulk to put up for Pre-order very early in the day, so pre-orders went back up.
Anyone who wants Shulk, you might wanna check Gamestop again to make sure if you can pre-order. I pre-ordered mine, and i'd say today's a good day. I can wait a few months. : 3

Yeah I got to re-pre-order mine today thanks to an email from them. I emailed them back afterward about my canceled Ike Amiibo and they said Ike was no longer available. So in other words my favorite character of all time will not be in physical form to me to see...

 

[spiderfreak1011]

Diddy is not hard. Sheik's slightly more difficult. Sonic is just BORING to fight against. ZSS is probably really close to even imo

It might just be that i'm not experienced in the match up, but always it feels like if i shield the banana, i'll instnatly get grabbed, if i don't read a Flying Grab (or whatever his side special is called) and spotdodge i'll get punished, his grabs are ridiculous and he all around feels hard to get in and punish. Keep in mind, i've figured out my hardest MU's typically come from Zoners/Campers. Sheik doesn't have all of the same tools Diddy has, so she feels easier to take on IMO, i just have to be more careful and be smart about how i deal with her pressure game. Sonic is boring to fight, it's sad that's the only thing that makes him S tier, lol. ZSS definitely feels even, i've fought alot of good ones with Shulk, and Speed Shulk can easily match her and space her out IMO.

I still don't see how Ness is neccessarily a bad match up for Shulk. I know he feels all ar ound hard to fight due to his low risk high reward options, but he doesn't feel too bad IMO. Maybe i just have yet to fight a good one. Although i will say, when i use Ness, i definitely feel like he's OP.

Yeah I got to re-pre-order mine today thanks to an email from them. I emailed them back afterward about my canceled Ike Amiibo and they said Ike was no longer available. So in other words my favorite character of all time will not be in physical form to me to see...

Good to hear, sorry about Ike though. But, i wouldn't give up hope yet. Project Steam's coming out, if Marth's getting a reprint, i think there's a good chance Ike will too honestly.

Also, one last thing i wanted to add. I remember looking at the Lucina boards and seeing how they ranked the MU as 60:40 :4Marth:/:4Shulk: , in Marth's/Lucina's favor. I played the match up against Locke 06 the other day, playing as Marth/Lucina and him being Shulk. Even though he was relatively new to Shulk and progressing in skill with him, it honestly felt like Shulk had the advantage, it always does to me. Even Locke agreed. Shulk has the tools to outspace Marth and pressure him hard with Speed and Buster. Yes, he has laggy attacks, but if you use them wisely and stick to his faster options in the Neutral, i honestly think he has an advantage over Marth or is at least even with him, rather than just moderately losing the MU. Plus, with Shield, it basically nerfs Marth's tipper advantage, lol.

 

[Berserker.]

That's really the point of spot dodging against monkey flip. That's the only option you have against monkey flip. React better and you'll get used to it. Also, stop jumping and start turtling with speed or buster. Diddy's aerials are dumb but his only legitimate dumb ground normals are grab and d-tilt

 

[erico9001]

Every time I search smash bros I get fake leaks. Brings me back to last year.

Lol no Shulk. 0/10.

I remember how no picture creating leaker could include Shulk because there were only like two decent pics of him online to use.

 

[Berserker.]

A lot of those edits looked really fake anyway. Haha (Especially the Ice Climbers)

 

[Deleted member]

Every time I search smash bros I get fake leaks. Brings me back to last year.

Lol no Shulk. 0/10.

I remember how no picture creating leaker could include Shulk because there were only like two decent pics of him online to use.

This takes me way back when people would make these fake edits...
I remember seeing one image where there were Smash symbol locks and people thought it was real! There was a really ugly Ridley too!
Then the real roster leak came out and people tried to disprove it saying that Shulk's artwork was a photoshopped Little Mac and that he was created from a Marth hack. Little did they know that this was the real deal.

 

[kenniky]

Every time I search smash bros I get fake leaks. Brings me back to last year.

Lol no Shulk. 0/10.

I remember how no picture creating leaker could include Shulk because there were only like two decent pics of him online to use.

The only newcomer they added that wasn't announced by then was Chrom... LOL

 

[KimKarsmashian]

You can discuss anything Xenoblade related here

I meant more along the lines of a dedicated forum, but I'll take this to mean there aren't any. Not a problem; this thread is relatively active, which is better than a dead forum.

 

[Berserker.]

Been seeing comparisons for Xenoblade X and PSO2. What do you guys think?

Also, Cryaotic and Omni seem to have started on their Xenoblade LP

Edit:

Spoiler

Cry figured out who Silver face was EVEN before it was revealed

 

[Burgundy]

Yeah I got to re-pre-order mine today thanks to an email from them. I emailed them back afterward about my canceled Ike Amiibo and they said Ike was no longer available. So in other words my favorite character of all time will not be in physical form to me to see...

Ike should be released at Best Buy on the 20th. Maybe try your luck there?

 

[NonSpecificGuy]

Ike should be released at Best Buy on the 20th. Maybe try your luck there?

Ooh cool thanks.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Been seeing comparisons for Xenoblade X and PSO2. What do you guys think?

Also, Cryaotic and Omni seem to have started on their Xenoblade LP

Edit:

Spoiler

Cry figured out who Silver face was EVEN before it was revealed

I've never played Phanasty star. People may potentially be disappointed if they want this to be a replacement to it though.

Also, been watching Cryaotic for quite some time. His reactions are glorious. Can't wait until

Spoiler

Mechonis Core

Also.

Spoiler

I personally didn't think it was that hard to figure out who silver face was but thats just me.

 

[Berserker.]

Cry's reaction at

Spoiler

The releasing of the shackles

was glorious

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

Honestly, I accidentally spoiled myself on who Silver Face was. I went to the Wikipedia page for Xenoblade Chronicles and accidentally saw "Fiora" at the corner of my eye and found out she was alive. The only spoiler I saw.

Cry's reaction at

Spoiler

The releasing of the shackles

was glorious

Can I have a link to it, please?

 

[Berserker.]

Spoiler

Honestly, I accidentally spoiled myself on who Silver Face was. I went to the Wikipedia page for Xenoblade Chronicles and accidentally saw "Fiora" at the corner of my eye and found out she was alive. The only spoiler I saw.

Can I have a link to it, please?

Updated playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeqwXTaiY-OwVR4WiJmg67u4A1rWEm7tx

 

[Deleted member]

Spoiler

Honestly, I accidentally spoiled myself on who Silver Face was. I went to the Wikipedia page for Xenoblade Chronicles and accidentally saw "Fiora" at the corner of my eye and found out she was alive. The only spoiler I saw.

Spoiler: MAJOR SPOILER, READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

I remember before I played Xenoblade, I read on the Wiki that Shulk was actually dead and then I stopped from there. That was the only time I was spoiled in regards to that game.

 

[CatRaccoonBL]

Spoiler: MAJOR SPOILER, READ AT YOUR OWN RISK

I remember before I played Xenoblade, I read on the Wiki that Shulk was actually dead and then I stopped from there. That was the only time I was spoiled in regards to that game.

Spoiler

Honestly that really isn't as big of a deal as the other stuff since it really doesn't impact the plot that much. Still would be upsetting not to find that out on your own.

As for me and what was spoilered:
1. Zanza was the final boss, (granted, I found this out back when I thought Zanza was the giant).
2. The design of the True Monado
3. The idea of "no more gods."

 

[spiderfreak1011]

Spoiler

Honestly that really isn't as big of a deal as the other stuff since it really doesn't impact the plot that much. Still would be upsetting not to find that out on your own.

As for me and what was spoilered:
1. Zanza was the final boss, (granted, I found this out back when I thought Zanza was the giant).
2. The design of the True Monado
3. The idea of "no more gods."

I spoiled not that much stuff, but the thigns i spoiled were essentially the biggest, most surprising/interesting parts of the plot that i really would've rather not spoiled. Those being...

Spoiler

I spoiled that Fiora comes back to life (although i never put together that she and Seven were the same person, when i saw a glimpse of her trophy prior to getting Smash U, i thought Seven was gonna be this guy or something, lol.

I spoiled the ending, that Shulk remakes the world and Fiora gets her body back. THat was a big mistake.

I spoiled the truth about Zanza's role as a god, how he was a human who destroyed the old universe and became a god and only made the Bionis as a body for his soul.

I spoiled that Meyneth had a Monado, although i still don't know why she does, or how the Monado III is "Shulk's Monado/True Monado", but i think now im starting to figure it out as Chuggaa's LP comes to a close.

I spoiled that the High Entia were really telethia and they get reverted back to that state near end game.

And I spoiled the truth about Zanza inhabiting Shulk's body and that the real Shulk died at Ose Tower. And that Shulk dies again at Mechonis Core, and was never really alive to begin with. I was so pissed when i learned this.

So yeah, spoiled alot of stuff i really wish i didn't spoil. DARN THE TEMPTATION TO SPOIL WHEN CHUGGAA WENT ON 2 MONTH BREAKS. *idontblamehimthohewassickandhecouldnthelpit*

 

[Andyjoe522]

Here's what I spoiled...

Spoiler: READ AT YOUR OWN RISK!!!

... Nothing. Oh the joys of only preordering the game because I thought it would increase the likelihood of The Last Story being localized. I got to experience this roller coaster uninterrupted from beginning to end.

 

[zippy3214]

I spoiled not that much stuff, but the thigns i spoiled were essentially the biggest, most surprising/interesting parts of the plot that i really would've rather not spoiled. Those being...

Spoiler

I spoiled that Fiora comes back to life (although i never put together that she and Seven were the same person, when i saw a glimpse of her trophy prior to getting Smash U, i thought Seven was gonna be this guy or something, lol.

I spoiled the ending, that Shulk remakes the world and Fiora gets her body back. THat was a big mistake.

I spoiled the truth about Zanza's role as a god, how he was a human who destroyed the old universe and became a god and only made the Bionis as a body for his soul.

I spoiled that Meyneth had a Monado, although i still don't know why she does, or how the Monado III is "Shulk's Monado/True Monado", but i think now im starting to figure it out as Chuggaa's LP comes to a close.

I spoiled that the High Entia were really telethia and they get reverted back to that state near end game.

And I spoiled the truth about Zanza inhabiting Shulk's body and that the real Shulk died at Ose Tower. And that Shulk dies again at Mechonis Core, and was never really alive to begin with. I was so pissed when i learned this.

So yeah, spoiled alot of stuff i really wish i didn't spoil. DARN THE TEMPTATION TO SPOIL WHEN CHUGGAA WENT ON 2 MONTH BREAKS. *idontblamehimthohewassickandhecouldnthelpit*

Spoiler: Don't read this if you haven't seen the final boss to credits

To the part about you being confused with Meyneth's Monado, I like to think that it had to do with how she was the only other scientist willingly trying to stop Klaus from recreating the universe(Why no other scientist was siding with Meyneth, I have no idea). This resulted in her becoming the soul of the Mechonis, and a goddess too. Since she is a goddess, she gets her own Monado, like Zanza.

 

[swordsman09]

Well if we're all talking about what was spoiler for us...

Spoiler

1.Fiora coming back to life, and that she and Shulk kiss.
2.Gadolt being a face. Shoutouts to trophies.
3.Dickson having a boss fight. I pretty much assumed he was a bad guy at this point.

That's pretty much it. I stopped looking after the Smash trophy caught my eye.

 

[mario123007]

Mm. Damn dude. Btw, that social thread moves fast O.O

It does, the Zelda users are a bit wild.

 

[Berserker.]

Holy ****. Mario is fun to use

Someone was kind enough to post this in the Rayman thread

 

[meleebrawler]

If this is true, now we have three third-party fighters with "man" in their names.
Megaman Pacman Rayman.

Also, a 4-person Smash with no Nintendo characters (excluding dittos) is now possible.

 

[LordTakeo]

Holy ****. Mario is fun to use

I think Mario is still meh, but I have to admit, he is really fun.
Also, I hope Rayman won't come, and they still push geno in it.

 

[Berserker.]

Leak deconfirmed

 

[Sol0ke]

The comments are entertaining.

 

[Deleted member]

The salt in the comments is very, very real.
I'm not even mad at all. What that guy did was impressive.
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I just wonder what Ubisoft will do on Tuesday, then...