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Should The Change Be Made?

FrozenRoy

FrozenRoy

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No, I wouldn't do it because I think Shovel Knight's powerset was more clearly usable as an Assist Trophy. But I wouldn't have been unhappy if they did put The Knight in.

All Star Smash changed from its current incarnation to an All-Star Mode like Melee/Brawl, but with more Heart Containers to make up for the much larger roster.
 
Wario Wario Wario

Wario Wario Wario

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Sure

Subspace Emissary is not in Brawl, but 10 new clones are in its place
  1. Pichu
  2. Dr. Mario
  3. Daisy (Peach)
  4. Dark Samus (Samus)
  5. Birdo (Yoshi)
  6. Roy Koopa (Bowser, he coexists as both a Bowser clone and Jr. alt in future Smash games)
  7. Kumatora (Lucas)
  8. Toon Zelda (Zelda, has no stance)
  9. Funky Kong (DK)
  10. Tiny Wario (Wario)
 
Wario Wario Wario

Wario Wario Wario

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No

SSBU has no newcomers except Inkling, even in DLC, but...
  1. every stage is back, including single player stages like Meta Crystal and the dungeon vortex. Redundant stages like Green Greens and Mushroom Kingdom Melee get new aesthetics.
  2. each character has somewhere between 8 and 20 alts
  3. Battlefield forms are replaced by unique competitive forms, which coexist with Omegas. Stages like Smashville have new casual layouts.
  4. interactions exist in victory screens
  5. 25 all-new stages, including stages from new third party series like Mementos and Dracula's Castle
  6. Proper custom moves, with new assets and animations
  7. WOL has platforming levels
  8. 5 extra music remixes per series
  9. Mii hats can be put on all fighters
  10. Spirits are 3D models, and all of them have some kind of associated Mii accessory or outfit.
 
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ssbashworld

ssbashworld

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Yes, sounds like it could be a fun, refreshing twist.

Pokemon adds someone who isnt a Starter Evolution in place of :ultgreninja: & :ultincineroar:
 
Wario Wario Wario

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Yes, even though I like Incineroar

The Retro Studios DKC games also switch protagonists like the other two DK trilogies - Tropical Freeze primarily stars Funky saving DK, but is otherwise the same.
 
Wario Wario Wario

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No.

SSBU has this stage selection instead
Wario Wario Wario said:
What if SSBU had fully original stages?
The amount of stages per series is equal to real Ultimate - Flat Zone X and Wii Fit Studio are considered Others but YI Melee is Yoshi. Any returning stage listed is a new layout, and most times a new aesthetic design. Decided to devote to the "everything and the kitchen sink" style of Ultimate's Spirits by trying to make stages suited to games that are otherwise unrepresented or unrepresentable as fighters. I did short change Mario by 3 stages (had enough) and Metroid by 1 (really hard to find stage choices for) to give Animal Crossing and Splatoon an extra stage each, and two 3P others stages (OutRun and Bubble Bobble).

  1. Mushroom Kingdom (New Super Mario Bros.)
  2. Rainbow Road (Mario Kart 8, based on N64)
  3. Bowser's Castle (Super Mario World)
  4. Mario Kart Stadium (Mario Kart 8)
  5. Airship Armada (Super Mario Bros. 3)
  6. Dire Dire Docks (Super Mario 64)
  7. New Donk City Hall (Super Mario Odyssey)
  8. Baby Park (Mario Kart: Double Dash!!)
  9. Super Mario Maker (Super Mario Maker, now features all settings and not just grass)
  10. Steam Gardens (Super Mario Odyssey)
  11. The Dark World (Super Mario 64)
  12. Painted Swampland (New Super Luigi U)
  13. Peach's Birthday Cake (Mario Party)
  14. Trampoline Time (Super Mario 64 DS)
  15. Haunted Portraits (Luigi's Mansion, original concept, think Looney Tunes: Back in Action)
  16. Mario Clash (Mario Clash)
  17. 25M (Donkey Kong)
  18. Treehouse and Banana Hoard (Donkey Kong Country)
  19. Bramble Blast (Donkey Kong Country 2: Diddy's Kong Quest)
  20. Windmill Hills (Donkey Kong Country: Tropical Freeze)
  21. Super MakerMatic 21 (WarioWare DIY)
  22. Wario's Castle (Wario World)
  23. Sky Descent (Yoshi: Touch and Go)
  24. Chomp Rock Cave (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island)
  25. Jungle Hut (Yoshi's Story)
  26. Froggy's Belly (Super Mario World 2: Yoshi's Island)
  27. Rest of the Hero's Blade (Zelda 2: The Adventure of Link)
  28. Great Plateau Tower (The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild)
  29. Temple of Time (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
  30. Kokiri Forest (The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time)
  31. Twilight Realm (The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess)
  32. Forsaken Fortress (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker)
  33. Great Fairy Fountain (The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker)
  34. Rosy Rupeeland (Freshly-Picked: Tingle's Rosy Rupeeland)
  35. Phendrana Drifts (Metroid Prime)
  36. Brinstar Jungle (Super Metroid)
  37. Norfair (Metroid)
  38. Butter Building (Kirby's Adventure)
  39. Crane Game (Kirby's Adventure)
  40. Dino Jungle (Kirby's Epic Yarn)
  41. Patched Plains (Kirby: Planet Robobot)
  42. Halberd (Kirby's Fun Pak)
  43. Dream Course (Kirby's Dream Course)
  44. FX Cruise (Star Wing)
  45. Great Fox Cockpit (Star Fox, original concept)
  46. Pleiades 2 (Star Fox, original concept)
  47. Poketropolis (Pokemon Battle Revolution)
  48. Distortion World (Pokemon Platinum)
  49. Kanto GB (Pokemon Red & Blue)
  50. PC (Pokemon, original concept, sequel to Poke Floats)
  51. Alola Pokemon League (Pokemon Sun and Moon)
  52. Train Deport (PokePark 2: Wonders Beyond)
  53. Pokemon Go (Pokemon Go)
  54. Lightning (F-Zero GX)
  55. Green Plant (F-Zero GX)
  56. Big Blue (F-Zero GX)
  57. Onett (EarthBound)
  58. Lumine Hall (EarthBound)
  59. Magypsy Shell House (Mother 3)
  60. Cave of the Past (EarthBound)
  61. Coliseum (Fire Emblem, original)
  62. Opera House (Fire Emblem Fates)
  63. Fort Dragonfall (Fire Emblem Fates)
  64. Palutena's Temple (Kid Icarus: Uprising, interior)
  65. Underworld (Kid Icarus, not 8-bit)
  66. That First Town (Kid Icarus: Uprising)
  67. Wistful Wilds (Pikmin 2)
  68. Tropical Wilds (Pikmin 3)
  69. Animal Crossing (Animal Crossing)
  70. Toy Day (Animal Crossing)
  71. The Roost (Animal Crossing)
  72. Blathers' Museum (Animal Crossing)
  73. Boxing Ring (Punch-Out!!)
  74. Satorl Marsh (Xenoblade Chronicles)
  75. Moray Towers (Splatoon)
  76. Blackbelly Skatepark (Splatoon)
  77. Big Shell (Metal Gear Solid 2)
  78. Green Hill Zone (Sonic the Hedgehog)
  79. Chemical Plant Zone (Sonic the Hedgehog 2)
  80. Central Highway (Mega Man X)
  81. Pac-Maze (Pac-Man)
  82. Suzaku Castle (Street Fighter)
  83. Midgar (Final Fantasy 7)
  84. The Gates (Bayonetta 2)
  85. Dracula's Castle (Castlevania)
  86. Concert Hall (Tomodachi Life)
  87. Hogan's Alley (Hogan's Alley)
  88. Helirin (Kuru Kuru Kururin)
  89. Cave Home (Original concept based on Ice Climber)
  90. Hanafuda Niwashi (Hanafuda)
  91. Venus Lighthouse (Golden Sun)
  92. Tennis Court (Wii Sports)
  93. Obstacle Course (Wii Fit)
  94. Bus Crusher (Pokemon Red & Blue commercial - treated as its own IP with no Pokemon imagery or music)
  95. Rhythm Remix (Rhythm Heaven series composite)
  96. Spring Stadium (Arms)
  97. Mii Contest Channel (Mii Contest Channel)
  98. The Wasteland (Mach Rider - the first spirit in WOL would use this stage instead of Garden of Hope)
  99. Cave of Monsters (Bubble Bobble)
  100. OutRun Bay (OutRun)
  101. Battlefield (Generic)
  102. Final Destination (Generic)
  103. Battle of Light & Dark (Generic, sole unlockable stage)
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BritishGuy54

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Yes. I think more people would believe it.

Pyra & Mythra and Byleth swap places in the Fighters Pass.
 
ZagarTulip

ZagarTulip

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Messages
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Yes Fine

End Dragon gets in Smash in place of Rathalos, but instead of Steve we get Monster Hunter. essentially swapping representation roles of MH and Minecraft
 
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