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Should The Change Be Made?

Champion of Hyrule

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Alright so this is an idea for a game I made up: the first person says a hypothetical change to the smash roster or smash in general. Doesn’t necessarily have to be a change you wish had happened, just a change. The next person says if they do or if they don’t wish the change had happened, and why. And then they give another example of a hypothetical change, and the next person does the same. Then the thread continues and so on and so forth.
Person 1: Peppy Hare instead of Falco

Person 2: No, Falco is more iconic and fits better with smash.

Wario using his Land design as default instead of his Ware design
So I’ll start:
Yu Narukami as challenger pack 1 instead of Joker
 

Doc Monocle

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The description sounds like a character I would favor, if my impression is correct, but Joker looks more distinguishable with the mask and coat, if you were to ask me, and the very fact that he is called Joker is another distinction, so I would not replace him. Otherwise, I could not say much.

Banjo and Kazooie replace Meta Knight in Brawl.
 

Gorgonzales

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Not a huge loss. Meta Knight would almost definitely be in line for the next Smash anyway. Having Sonic, Snake, and Banjo all fighting in Brawl would be incredible to see.
also no meta knight means no tier-list domination

Byleth and Joker's places in FP1 are swapped. (Byleth is revealed first, Joker is revealed last. the other reveals stay the same)
 

MasterCheef

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Fighter pass 1 first and last reveals swap would def be an improvement.

eliminating a lot of the terrible stages & eliminating the top platform in battlefield
 

Champion of Hyrule

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You'll have to be more specific as to what "terrible stages" are, but anyways, I wouldn't eliminate the top platform in battlefield

Any song can be played on any stage
 

Pupp135

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I’ll say yes since people might not like music from some franchises, and I’ve seen complaints that Mario songs cannot be played on Yoshi’s Island (Melee).

Would you accept if Bowser’s Castle took Rainbow Cruises spot in all of its appearances (Melee, Brawl, Ultimate)?
 

StrangeKitten

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I’ll say yes since people might not like music from some franchises, and I’ve seen complaints that Mario songs cannot be played on Yoshi’s Island (Melee).

Would you accept if Bowser’s Castle took Rainbow Cruises spot in all of its appearances (Melee, Brawl, Ultimate)?
Yes. While Rainbow Cruise is a cool stage, I'd rather have a proper Bowser stage.

Ridley gets into Brawl instead of King Dedede.
 

Doc Monocle

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Never dare touch King Dedede!... Well, I am afraid this is an incredibly biased opinion, but apologies, Ridley. You can wait until Smash Bros. 4... Yes, I know I changed a detail.

Edit: Pac-Man comes before Pit.
 
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ZagarTulip

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Sure, I have heard of Pac Man long before I have heard of Pit

Krystal comes before Palutena
 

Champion of Hyrule

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No thanks, more than one rep (excluding clones) was pretty much a necessity for Kid Icarus in Smash 4 IMO

Smash 3DS and Wii U have the same release date
 

Wario Wario Wario

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No way in hell, that'd just expand the "Smash 4" myth even further.

The Amazon gets in instead of Incineroar, but his moveset is the same.
 
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StrangeKitten

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Nah. I don't know who The Amazon is, but Incineroar is my favorite Pokemon, so he stays.

A gen 7 Pokemon stage is added instead of New Donk City.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Sure, NDC is a pretty boring stage.

Muddy Mole is Brawl's first retro instead of Pit, but KIU still exists and Pit gets in 3DS/Wii U instead of Palutena, bringing Dark Pit with him.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Nah, would come off more as a slap in the face with Nintendo's current NSO plans

Tails and Eggman are in Smash, but Joker and Bayonetta aren't.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Yeah, at least FF has the legacy to back up such a bias.

Piranha Plant is cut, but the Blue Shell takes its place as the joke fighter.
 

Pupp135

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I’ll pass since idk how a blue shell can even get a full moveset

Waluigi was added instead of Rosalina for the For games and Ultimate.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Yes, easily. Waluigi is an infinitely more important and fun character than Rosa.

Robin was the final Fire Emblem character ever added to Smash.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Nah. I could understand replacing the cape, but Mario without fireballs is like Sonic without a spin dash.

Dixie Kong is added... to Brawl instead of Diddy.
 

Pupp135

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I’ll pass on this since it’d feel a little awkward to have Dixie before Diddy.

In the 3DS and WiiU SSB games, a single Ice Climber is playble without the partner during battles?
 

Wario Wario Wario

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No. Just No.

Link and the Villagers are cut from MK8's DLC, in their place are Sonic, Tails and Knuckles in a pack, while the 3 Mario clone characters have their own DLC pack. Eggman joins them in Deluxe instead of the Inklings
 

Wario Wario Wario

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She's always been one of my favourites in the ARMS cast, so sure.

Kaptain K. Rool is a clone (Melee style, stat changes but little to no move changes), not an alt.
 

Pupp135

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I liked Poke Floats, so yes.

Instead of CP11, Ganondorf gets the moveset the SSB Crusade gave him.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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Hmm... Yeah, but mostly for 1. more skimpily dressed males, and 2. more visual differences from Lucina.

Chrom and Dark Samus are removed, Paula (Ness) and The Amazon (Incineroar) take their place as echoes.
 

Wario Wario Wario

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If they can somehow pull it off, sure.

SSBU gets two extra base game fighters - the once-inevitable niche retro duo, this time consisting of Who Are You Running From? and Muddy Mole.
 
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