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Should Metaknight be Banned? **Take 2** (Post-podcast)
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I have an idea - don't ask if people are playing against "competent" whatever character when you've clearly no personal skill of your own, nor, apparently, a proper insight of the metagame. I can see Pit's Arrows being a huge nuisance for characters like Bowser and Ganondorf. Falco? Diddy Kong? Marth? Ehh... not so much.
You have a poor perception of time passing, then.
Let me get this straight - you intend to beat Melee Falco's SHL by air-dodging at him?
ShadowLink84
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Ankoku don't argue with n00bs. You'll kill yourself trying to make them know that they are wrong.
da K.I.D.
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i want to find out where this kid lives, and personally set up a match with him and someone competent
Metro Knight
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Noobs love attention.
Master Knight DH
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I didn't know the pot gets to call the kettle black.
I'm amazed people can get to call me arrogant like they don't realize people like you exist.
You mean something that claims Snake deserves top tier? Here's an idea: stop walking into Snake's Forward Smash in 1-on-1s.
Exactly. It ***** heavyweights. ROB even gets torn to shreds. That should not be plausible at all.
Even if Diddy and Marth get past it, Pit can just adapt. He has decent weight and ridiculous maneuverability for it.
It's fine. And since we're on the subject, I have a friend who gets 9 on Samurai Kirby. He certainly got to Meta Knight on Hard. Big surprise: he agrees that Pit's arrow abuse is over the top.
Oh, you mean I'll just air dodge jump right at him? I'm just shaking off the attempt. Why would I want to jump towards him during defense. That makes no sense.
brinboy789
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now thati think of it, shadowlink, which side are you on? you just seem to be killing both sides arguement
Johnknight1
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That must be why all those f**s have over 1,000 posts!
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People lose to Snake because of his disjointed and overpowered F and Utilt...along with many other things...not because of that. Do you even follow the metagame or watch top player 1 v 1s? Or do you just type Brawl on YouTube?
Master Knight, after going over the last 11 pages of this thread, I have come to the conclusion that one of the following must be true:
a) You are a troll
b) You are using an illegal substance which has severely impaired your reaction time
c) You were repetitively dropped on your head as a baby
If a,
Good job. I haven't seen this many people get worked up over a single scrub in a long time.
If b,
Get help.
If c,
Switch to something more your pace, like a turn based RPG.
a) You are a troll
b) You are using an illegal substance which has severely impaired your reaction time
c) You were repetitively dropped on your head as a baby
If a,
Good job. I haven't seen this many people get worked up over a single scrub in a long time.
If b,
Get help.
If c,
Switch to something more your pace, like a turn based RPG.
Anther
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wtf is happening XD.
rehab
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Stop walking into Snake's forward smash and he's bottom tier
so simple
so simple
Master Knight DH
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Oh, you mean the disjointed tilts that are still close range? Here's an idea: fight Snake from long range. Everything he can do becomes easier to react to then. What's that? He can blow me up randomly with a mine I didn't see him set on the ground? That can happen, that is IF I DON'T REALIZE HE CAN SET THEM FROM THE AIR AND THEY ARE ALWAYS REMOTE MINES! But wait. I forgot he could Mortar Slide. Or wait, no I didn't. I kick his butt literally then move out of the way of the mortar. All he has left are grenades to crowd the battlefield. Oh, right. I don't even need too much space to kick his butt, he's slow.
ShadowLink84
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Inui
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Please stop replying to Master Knight DH, everyone.
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That's a good idea. I couldn't even tell what point he was trying to convey in his last post, and he still can't shield Pit's arrows.
da K.I.D.
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he jsut said snake is slow...
can someone find me that sprite of a red face with a gun, blowing another face's head off?
cus thats how i feel right now
can someone find me that sprite of a red face with a gun, blowing another face's head off?
cus thats how i feel right now
Justblaze647
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lol @ newbs...
brinboy789
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actually, snake is slow. on ground speed. not that it matters much though. and master knight, i know that your trying not to get mk banned, but saying false things wont work. talk about the snake matchup. its 60:40, agreed by top players, all pro-ban people can say is OMG MK CAN GIMP and thats it while snake has all options on ground. i made a thread on MK boards about it, try and pick up there if you want a viable arguement
Well, thats only going to work on FD, really, because on most other stages, the mine+C4 can keep you from going on a quarter of the field.
This is simply self-contradiction, with the "Fight Snake from long range", and then "I don't need space to kick his butt", because you needed to fight at long range to avoid his long-ranged close range tilts. And then you need to fight close range to avoid his long-range grenades. His tilts are quick, and movement speed only applies when you approach.
I totally would but there's no MK discussion to go to instead. And I didn't get my turn to argue to a wall yet.
I'm assuming you're talking about Mewtwo.
jello-head-2
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he rules so dont ban him
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Jello, that is an amazingly well-written, detailed post. I may just change my mind thanks to you.
§leepy God
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This thread should now say, "should Snake be ban from FD" now.
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I would make this my sig if it already wasn't full of win.
DK2
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I agree with you on that buddy!
Ban Snacks from FD! Hahaha! Real men don't use Snake! And no more camping Snake! Muahahahahahahahaha! 
HydeInTheBox
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Why do people want him banned? He's not that big of a problem for me.
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I suggest listening to the MK Debate via podcast. It's a pretty good listen. Also read some of the other threads about MK.
The Milk Monster
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Agreed.
It discusses both sides very in depth, then you'll understand why, or why not.
Metro Knight
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!That must be why all those f**s have over 1,000 posts!
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DK2
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Yeah it's alright but some people like to camp and I hate campers and I hate myself for johning. And i'm sorry about the johns buddy.Is a non-camping Snake alright with you?
da K.I.D.
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again, I wanna say
i really like how this poll is turning out...
i really like how this poll is turning out...
Inui
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Uh, obviously? You're a Sonic main that voted "Yes" because you think MK is broken LOL.
Regardless of the results of this poll, I know my region isn't going to ever ban MK. I think my whole coast isn't. He's perfectly legal in FL. In fact, if you look at FL's rankings, there are only two MKs IIRC. 1st is Snake, 2nd is Dedede, and 3rd is Snake/Marth. W1n.
Browny
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just because the best players in one state dont use MK doesnt make him any less broken lol...
CT Chia
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as i was talking with others, i think the only reason an mk ban would be good is that it makes the game much more balanced.
currently: mk has no "bad" matchups, and goes even with a couple here and there
without him: everyone in the top tiers has counters and its more of a circle of characters doing good against each other while loosing to others. its really a lot more balanced.
so is mk as a character bannable per say? not reeeaaaly, but is the game more fair without him, most likely.
currently: mk has no "bad" matchups, and goes even with a couple here and there
without him: everyone in the top tiers has counters and its more of a circle of characters doing good against each other while loosing to others. its really a lot more balanced.
so is mk as a character bannable per say? not reeeaaaly, but is the game more fair without him, most likely.
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